nightwolf Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 I want to buy this cashmere scarf/pashmina as a Christmas present, for myself. But on the website the model has grey hair. Should this tell me something?! Scarves are incredibly easy to make look like they aren't for older generations. Just buy the damn thing.
MoogleViper Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Scarves are incredibly easy to make look like they aren't for older generations. Just buy the damn thing. Yeah, putting around a young persons neck usually helps.
Molly Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Molly - Just because I do something that goes against my argument doesn't mean that it's any less valid. Plus, I need the jacket, I lost my old one. And I delude myself into thinking that cultural possessions like books and dvds and cds don't count. But they do. And still, if they were all stolen, I'd be a bit upset, but honestly speaking I wouldn't really be that annoyed by it. The experience would still be there. Yes we are all materialistic bastards. It's a sorry state of affairs. But I stand by the fact that you having a go at people at Christmas when you're just as bad (nearly, anyway :P) is completely hypocritical and pointless Oh, and by the way, how are you? Swell thanks, how are you? PS - I'm not the grinch! Yes you are
Oxigen_Waste Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Yes we are all materialistic bastards. It's a sorry state of affairs. But I stand by the fact that you having a go at people at Christmas when you're just as bad (nearly, anyway :P) is completely hypocritical and pointless No it isn't!! Christmas is supposed to be about family! But instead, everyone gets a bonus so they can spend more money on things they don't need! I'm not just as bad!! Yeah, I do have books DVDs and CDs, I spend approx 40£ a month spoiling myself like that, and it's already way too much. In comes christmas and... nothing, cause I don't get presents. My gran-gran gives me a box of chocolates and me and my mom give each other a book every month. That makes a total of about 10£, and if you ask me honestly, I don't really want anything else (and I always give the chocs to my brothers, I don't like them, lol). And you're calling me a hypocrite because I say people want too much? No offense, but I don't think it's hypocrisy to say it's a bit too much asking for the things some people are asking for. Like, I remember reading a few pages back about someone planning on asking for Fallout 3 Game Of The Year Edition... I think that's just such a stupid waste of money! I mean, why ask for something that'll cost 4 times less in one year now? The exact same thing! But it seems I'm alone on that one, everyone buys games/books/CDs at launch. (I open an exception when it's something like Street Fighter 4 or Modern Warfare 2, in which buying it later will make the game worse). I can't ask for something like that and feel good about myself!! And it's not like I'm poor, it's just a matter of integrity! /Rant. Ignore me, please.
nightwolf Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Lifes too short to wait a year to buy something, just because its cheaper. Its just money, *shrugs*
Fierce_LiNk Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 No it isn't!! Christmas is supposed to be about family! But instead, everyone gets a bonus so they can spend more money on things they don't need! If we're being really picky, the actual answer is that Christmas is a Christian celebration to celebrate the birth of Baby Jeeeeeeesus. Geez us.
Oxigen_Waste Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Lifes too short to wait a year to buy something, just because its cheaper. Its just money, *shrugs* Life's too short to spend it hung up on things. Unless you have no ambitions? The money (yes, it's just money) you save... you can use on being alive. Instead of on being a zombie (here's looking at George Romero). What, you think I just save the money I don't spend "for the future"? Fuck no... it paid for my trips to Japan, Europe rail pass, Nepal, so on and so on. That's life, you know? Not sitting at home playing Uncharted 2, not my jacket, not watching Lost on TV. Those are the intermissions between life. The white noise. Plus, there's a hole in your theory: there's stuff coming out all the time, which means that no matter when it is, there'll always be things you want available for cheap prizes, systematically. Unless you want very few things, in which case this doesn't even apply. If we're being really picky, the actual answer is that Christmas is a Christian celebration to celebrate the birth of Baby Jeeeeeeesus. Geez us. Somewhat accurate. But there's millions of non-christians celebrating it.
Molly Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 No it isn't!! Christmas is supposed to be about family! But instead, everyone gets a bonus so they can spend more money on things they don't need! I'm not just as bad!! Yeah, I do have books DVDs and CDs, I spend approx 40£ a month spoiling myself like that, and it's already way too much. In comes christmas and... nothing, cause I don't get presents. My gran-gran gives me a box of chocolates and me and my mom give each other a book every month. That makes a total of about 10£, and if you ask me honestly, I don't really want anything else (and I always give the chocs to my brothers, I don't like them, lol). And you're calling me a hypocrite because I say people want too much? No offense, but I don't think it's hypocrisy to say it's a bit too much asking for the things some people are asking for. Like, I remember reading a few pages back about someone planning on asking for Fallout 3 Game Of The Year Edition... I think that's just such a stupid waste of money! I mean, why ask for something that'll cost 4 times less in one year now? The exact same thing! But it seems I'm alone on that one, everyone buys games/books/CDs at launch. (I open an exception when it's something like Street Fighter 4 or Modern Warfare 2, in which buying it later will make the game worse). I can't ask for something like that and feel good about myself!! And it's not like I'm poor, it's just a matter of integrity! /Rant. Ignore me, please. So anyone that has more than two things on their list doesn't know that Christmas is about family?! You started (pages back) by saying that all Brits want too much, which was a massive generalisation and here's another one! Oxigen I'm getting one thing for Christmas that I've bought for myself because I need it. Yes I need to know the time, alright? :P We're not going to get anywhere, I've told you I agree with the idea. This may sound like I'm worked up, but I'm really not.
Fierce_LiNk Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Somewhat accurate. But there's millions of non-christians celebrating it. There's millions of people giving and receiving presents, too. I think you're getting yourself a bit too worked up over the meaning of Christmas. That's why I posted that in my last post, because if we're all going to be picky, then technically everyone should be going to Midnight Mass, etc. You said that Christmas is about spending time with your family. That's your meaning of Christmas. Thinking about the presents, do people give gifts to randomers everywhere? Nah. It's family and friends. I consider my friends to be family to me, but an extended and different kind of family. Whether you give them yourself, giving them your time and attention or giving them gifts, then what's the harm? You're still "giving" something to the other person, whether it's your love, your time, your attention, or a gift. The gift is just a representation of that, at least I think so anyway. That's my interpretation of it.
Nolan Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 That's life, you know? Not sitting at home playing Uncharted 2, not my jacket, not watching Lost on TV. Those are the intermissions between life. The white noise. Isn't it a little presumptuous to tell other people what is life?
chairdriver Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 My Christmas Wish List Bear in mind this is a list of EVERYTHING I want in my whole entire life, as a guide to my parents (they never know what I want). I've told them to choose at random stuff from it, so I get a surprise. CDs Yeah So - The Slow Club More Adventurous - Rilo Kiley Take Offs And Landings - Rilo Kiley Goodbye England (Covered In Snow) - Laura Marling XX - The XX Blood Bank - Bon Iver The Collection - Alanis Morissette Cruel Sister - Rachel Unthank Legs To Make Us Longer - Kaki King Fixin' To Thrill - Dragonette Voltaic - Bjork Ellipse - Imogen Heap Speak For Yourself - Imogen Heap Don't Stop - Annie Un Dia - Juana Molina Love In The Time Of Science - Emiliana Torrini Fisherman's Woman - Emiliana Torrini () - Sigur Ros Agaetis Byrjun - Sigur Ros Return To Saturn - No Doubt Strange Little Girls - Tori Amos Walnut Wales - Joanna Newsom Yarn and Glue - Joanna Newsom DVDs Inglorious Basterds Moon Sympathy For Mr. Vengence Arrested Development (Seasons 1 - 3) Battlestar Galactica (Seasons 1 - 4) Antichrist (I'm not sure it's out, but it's stunning to write down) Clothes Smart shoes Nice jeans Tegan and Sara t-shirts (particularly the purple one with knives on it) Warm, smart jacket Jewelry which both stuns and reminds the onlooker of the world which Joanna Newsom creates in Ys Calvin Klein pants Calvin Klein Crave (cologne) Random clothes which set the fire to the third bar/fix to thrill. Electrical Stuff/Gaming Stuff A PSP Final Fantasy Dissidia Star Ocean (on PSP (I'm being unspecific, because I don't mind which)) Dynasty Tactics 2 Kessen III Henry Hatsworth In The Puzzling Adventure Digital camera USB Stick Blank CDs Books/Stuff Forged From Paper Music posters of any band/artist I like, and any of the people listed in the CD section Books that are classics Labryinths by Borges
nightwolf Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Life's too short to spend it hung up on things. Unless you have no ambitions? The money (yes, it's just money) you save... you can use on being alive. Instead of on being a zombie (here's looking at George Romero). What, you think I just save the money I don't spend "for the future"? Fuck no... it paid for my trips to Japan, Europe rail pass, Nepal, so on and so on. That's life, you know? Not sitting at home playing Uncharted 2, not my jacket, not watching Lost on TV. Those are the intermissions between life. The white noise. Plus, there's a hole in your theory: there's stuff coming out all the time, which means that no matter when it is, there'll always be things you want available for cheap prizes, systematically. Unless you want very few things, in which case this doesn't even apply. Somewhat accurate. But there's millions of non-christians celebrating it. For some to be fair, sitting infront of a telly with uncharted 2 is a pretty good life!
Oxigen_Waste Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) So anyone that has more than two things on their list doesn't know that Christmas is about family?! You started (pages back) by saying that all Brits want too much, which was a massive generalisation and here's another one! Oxigen I'm getting one thing for Christmas that I've bought for myself because I need it. Yes I need to know the time, alright? :P We're not going to get anywhere, I've told you I agree with the idea. This may sound like I'm worked up, but I'm really not. I was just letting out steam 'cause you called me a hypocrite! I said that in general, brits ask for more than we (the Portuguese... and on that matter, I'll take the chance now and expand that to the Spanish, the French or the German do. I don't know about other countries, so I won't say anything about them) do. So, of course it's a generalisation. That's what the "general" is for, there's no troops that need command here, are there? Now I'm gonna be picky. You don't need a watch! You have a cell! It tells time! Boooo! (little secret, I ain't worked up either. I was about the hypocrite, though.) You said that Christmas is about spending time with your family. That's your meaning of Christmas. Thinking about the presents, do people give gifts to randomers everywhere? Nah. It's family and friends. I consider my friends to be family to me, but an extended and different kind of family. Whether you give them yourself, giving them your time and attention or giving them gifts, then what's the harm? You're still "giving" something to the other person, whether it's your love, your time, your attention, or a gift. The gift is just a representation of that, at least I think so anyway. That's my interpretation of it. And the fact that people actually put stuff in the same group as love time and attention doesn't upset you? :( Seriously, though, it's not so much about "christmas", it's about material possessions. Isn't it a little presumptuous to tell other people what is life? In this case? No. That's why fiction is called fiction, because it isn't real life. For some to be fair, sitting infront of a telly with uncharted 2 is a pretty good life! Still, you know what I mean... *huge list* But I can't... stooooooop'loving you! (Phil Collins style!) Edited December 10, 2009 by Oxigen_Waste Automerged Doublepost
Molly Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 @ Chair, I want to hold you for the irony. I love it. I said that in general, brits ask for more than we (the Portuguese... and on that matter, I'll take the chance now and expand that to the Spanish, the French or the German do. I don't know about other countries, so I won't say anything about them) do. So, of course it's a generalisation. That's what the "general" is for, there's no troops that need command here, are there No you didn't: I'm just saying, you brits' christmas lists are much bigger than ours. Also, is my mobile phone attached to my wrist? Can I see the time in one easy arm motion? No. : peace:
nightwolf Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Still, you know what I mean... Yup I'm just no good at this debating merlark people do here. :p
Nolan Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Sympathy For Mr. Vengence I'll just assume you must already have Oldboy.
Oxigen_Waste Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 No you didn't: Did you notice the ":heh:" smile at the end, indicating sarcasm, you vile woman? (Did she fall for that? Damnit...) Well, I meant in general. And you know it! Also, is my mobile phone attached to my wrist? Can I see the time in one easy arm motion? No. : peace: Shush you! Dinner time, over at my house, so... see you in a while. I'll just assume you must already have Oldboy. Hey, they're two completely different films. SFMV is the opposite of Oldboy (and Lady Vengeance is a hybrid between the two of them). I know lots of people who love Oldboy and hate SFMV. And I know 2 persons who are the same but reversed.
Fierce_LiNk Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 And the fact that people actually put stuff in the same group as love time and attention doesn't upset you? :( Seriously, though, it's not so much about "christmas", it's about material possessions. Honestly, it doesn't bother me all that much. That's me being me, though. I like being able to buy something nice for someone I care a lot about and seeing them happy. For example, last year I got Ine (as a joke gift) some blowing bubbles, because I thought it would be a fun little gift and she could be a little silly with it. She used them with her dog, heh. The fact is that there are many things which people take a lot of joy from. We're on a Nintendo/gaming forum, so it's safe to assume that many of us get joy from gaming. Many of us get joy from listening to music, or seeing particular films, or something else. Why is it so wrong to buy somebody a gift that you think they will like? If you know it will make them happy, then why so bad? Yeah, it can be a little too much indulgance, if you're just getting gifts because "it is simply there." But, if you would genuinally get some joy or use from something, then I don't think it's all that bad. Take Molly's watch for example. My Mum bought me a watch for my birthday in January, because my old watch was a bit wrecked, broken and old. So, she bought a nice one for me because she thought I would find it useful. When I'm working, I use it. It was her birthday last week, and I bought her a particular CD that she wanted, and she's been listening to that everyday in the kitchen.
Nolan Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Hey, they're two completely different films. SFMV is the opposite of Oldboy (and Lady Vengeance is a hybrid between the two of them). I know lots of people who love Oldboy and hate SFMV. And I know 2 persons who are the same but reversed. >_> <_< >_> SFMV is actually the one of the 3 I haven't seen yet. I want to though. I love Oldboy and really liked SFLV.
Molly Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 you vile woman? Lol. You know I <3 you Oxigen.
Fierce_LiNk Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 There's obviously sexual tension between Molly and OxyWaste. All this "Its not about Chrrrristttmassss, its about materialism and posssesssions" stuff is boolshit. Christmas sex is the best sex of the year. Everyone wants a piece.
chairdriver Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 I'll just assume you must already have Oldboy. No, but I saw Lady Vengence, and loved.
Molly Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 There's obviously sexual tension between Molly and OxyWaste. All this "Its not about Chrrrristttmassss, its about materialism and posssesssions" stuff is boolshit. Christmas sex is the best sex of the year. Everyone wants a piece. If you had your way I would have slept with every other knee member by now
Fierce_LiNk Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 If you had your way I would have slept with every other knee member by now There is still time! I just want...everyone to be happy. Hahahaha. Happy sexy forum.
Nolan Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 No, but I saw Lady Vengence, and loved. Well, I must suggest Oldboy as well. It's different though like OW said. Flink, you're like the worst matchmaker ever.
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