Mundi Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Which is why we need to walk the path ourselves to decide whether is was good for us. In the end we may not realise that it was good or bad. Maybe we realise it later, maybe we never realise it. Different paths can be right, but for different reasons. Choosing something is inevitably linked to not choosing something, and while one choice is right in some aspects, it will most definitely be not-right in other aspects - and that goes for nearly all possible paths in your life. So ultimately, can we really talk about choosing the right path? Yes but why did we pick that path? Personel experience that connects to that path? What other who have walked that path told you? What you have heard about it? We live our lives trough the lives of others, the hard decisions are the ones that few have to do so doing what others have done makes the picking easy to do. Or if your curious and go down a less explored path, then your pick influenced by the fact that few people went down there. Ultimately you pick the one for you therefor picking the "right" one in your eyes at the moment. Saying that a path is wrong/right is hard to define because if we look at pros and cons of everything that is right and wrong it´s our mentality of the situation that decides if we say that the path is right or wrong. So yes we can´t really say that we can pick the right path But we like to say that when we like the experience of it
Dyson Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Ah but, what you must ask yourself is this, if a tree falls in the forest, and there's nobody around to hear it, is it still deforestation?
jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Author Posted March 8, 2009 Lots of lumberjacks use ear protection, so I've never really thought of anyone 'hearing' the tree fall over as a problem. But the pope, on the other hand...
MoogleViper Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Lots of lumberjacks use ear protection, so I've never really thought of anyone 'hearing' the tree fall over as a problem. But the pope, on the other hand... If the pope falls over, and there's nobody around to hear it...? Never heard that one.
Guest Captain Falcon Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Ah but, what you must ask yourself is this, if a tree falls in the forest, and there's nobody around to hear it, is it still deforestation? It would only be deforestation if it was being done by man and thus he'd be present. Whether he could hear it or not would be another matter entirely, so it could be yes and no.
jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Author Posted March 8, 2009 If the pope falls over, and there's nobody around to hear it...? Never heard that one. Listen harder!
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Yes but why did we pick that path?Personel experience that connects to that path? What other who have walked that path told you? What you have heard about it? We live our lives trough the lives of others, the hard decisions are the ones that few have to do so doing what others have done makes the picking easy to do. Or if your curious and go down a less explored path, then your pick influenced by the fact that few people went down there. Ultimately you pick the one for you therefor picking the "right" one in your eyes at the moment. Saying that a path is wrong/right is hard to define because if we look at pros and cons of everything that is right and wrong it´s our mentality of the situation that decides if we say that the path is right or wrong. So yes we can´t really say that we can pick the right path But we like to say that when we like the experience of it We pick our paths based on what we know of said paths, but only afterwards may we know if we picked the "right" paths in our life. And on the question of hearing a falling tree in the forest, we may think we've chosen the right paths, but how can we know when we haven't tried all the other possible paths in our life? Thus it is redundant to speak about choosing the right path, for we may never know if a path is right.
Guest Captain Falcon Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Listen harder! I thought jokes are supposed to be funny? Unless I'm totally missing something.
Guest Captain Falcon Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Can't we just consign everything to the idea of fate, thus removing the notion of choice and opportunity?
DomJcg Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 They say when you take away a mans life, you take everything he has been and everything he will be. Seriously though, its a loss, i could not have raised 6000 pounds for charity this weekend, i could have stayed home and worked on my presentation for tomorrow, and a charity would be 6000 pounds less gained, but my presentation would have been done see?
jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Author Posted March 8, 2009 They say when you take away a mans life, you take everything he has been and everything he will be. Odd - I seriously just heard that being said on 'Life'! Zen-tastic.
Mundi Posted March 8, 2009 Posted March 8, 2009 We pick our paths based on what we know of said paths, but only afterwards may we know if we picked the "right" paths in our life. And on the question of hearing a falling tree in the forest, we may think we've chosen the right paths, but how can we know when we haven't tried all the other possible paths in our life? Thus it is redundant to speak about choosing the right path, for we may never know if a path is right. That is all true but the point I´m getting across here is that we pick these paths because to use they are the right one to us and like you said there is no way of knowing what path is right so we decide what is the right one for us to pick. It´s only as right as it feels to you but if it dosen´t you can say that it is wrong, either way you will be influencing other people´s choices in the future based on the experience you have told them about that and that will factor what they feel is the right path to take.
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 That is all true but the point I´m getting across here is that we pick these paths because to use they are the right one to us and like you said there is no way of knowing what path is right so we decide what is the right one for us to pick.It´s only as right as it feels to you but if it dosen´t you can say that it is wrong, either way you will be influencing other people´s choices in the future based on the experience you have told them about that and that will factor what they feel is the right path to take. You are indeed correct in your observationings.
Gizmo Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 The thing about this question is the unknown. If you have two options, you can only make a best guess on what will be better. Lets say you have a choice of two jobs. Both seem equal, except one pays slightly better. So you take that one, live a normal life with a reasonable paycheck, get married, have kids, have grandkids, die. But if you had chosen the other job, you might end up partaking in an office lottery sweepstake, winning £10m, and living a life of luxury. Had you known that when given the choice, would the choice not have been different? There is no right and wrong; only best guess. Indeed, taking the second option may also have had the company go bust, your life to spiral into depression as you are unable to find work, your wife to leave you, and those kids to never exist. If one of those kids had been destined to be the next Prime Minister and be pivotal in the creation of world peace, then that option was most definaltey the wrong one. But you didn't know that at the time. I think what we are essentially discussing here is the Butterfly Effect.
EEVILMURRAY Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 Listen harder! It mentions there would be people around, just not looking.
Jav_NE Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 This isn't where I parked my car.... Ah man, memories of EuroTrip! Kudos for making me lol.
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