Sanchez Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Wikipedia has collected some information about weed habits in Holland. In the Netherlands 9.7% of young boys consume soft drugs once a month, comparable to the level in Italy (10.9%) and Germany (9.9%) and less than in the UK (15.8%) and Spain (16.4%), but much higher than in, for example, Sweden (3%), Finland or Greece. Dutch rates of drug use are lower than U.S. rates in every category. The monthly prevalence of drugs other than cannabis among young people (15-24) was 4% in 2004, that was above the average (3%) of 15 compared countries in EU. However, seemingly few transcends to becoming problem drug users (0.3%), well below the average (0.52%) of the same compared countries. No and there should be more harsh sentances for users and dealers. Brilliant idea, we can do things like America where they have 1% of their population in jail.
Haden Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 That sounds awesome. It was my copy though hence the bad memories for me. Also at 7am every morning I would here this fucking double dash intro song on ultra loud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxzzEVLQyl4 If youve listened to that imagine that on repeat every godam morning with cries of DAN DAN DAN DAN DAN DAN (aka alan partridge) over and over until I told him to stfu or I went down and played mario kart with him. To be fair those early morning games of mario kart were the most swear filled fun I think is possible between two or more people without the risk of an STD. Shit I shouldn't have posted that link im having flashbacks Vietnam style.
MoogleViper Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Wikipedia has collected some information about weed habits in Holland. You can't go on those figures and expect it to be the same. Lots of other countries have the same drinking laws as us but not all of them have as big a binge-drinking problem. The attitude of Brits is completely different. And that's what matters.
danny Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Get a clue. I have a clue and an opinion. Get a grip (and i mean that in everysense)
rokhed00 Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 I have a clue and an opinion. Get a grip (and i mean that in everysense) Must be nice being blinkered.
danny Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Must be nice being blinkered. Im not blinkered. My eyes are wide open when it comes to this sort of thing thanks.
rokhed00 Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Im not blinkered. My eyes are wide open when it comes to this sort of thing thanks. Doesn't seem like it, anybody with an open mind would know that marijuana is no real danger to anyone.
nightwolf Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Maybe you could expand your reasoning danny, it may help, instead of just a flat out no. We currently have enough people in jail without placing softer drug dealers (weed only I suppose for the sake of this argument) into jail. We cannot cope with such a large number, not compared to america. Do you not class memory loss as a danger rokhed? I'm not being flaming with this as it's not been proven fully as far as I'm aware, but it still stands. To me losing my memory because of a drug is quite something.. I do agree with Moogle I wouldn't base wikipedia for this, although it's interesting to see that spain apprently has a lagrer percentage of weed users than england.
rokhed00 Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Do you not class memory loss as a danger rokhed? I'm not being flaming with this as it's not been proven fully as far as I'm aware, but it still stands. To me losing my memory because of a drug is quite something.. Can't say it's something I've experienced, I've smoked mountains of weed over the years and I'm still pretty sharp.
Dan_Dare Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 I've never come across it in a permanent sense, and I've never forgotten anything that's not been said while we've been pretty high loosing the finer details of fuzzy chit chat is par for the course though- especially if you're at the end of a few days worth of joints.
danny Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Maybe you could expand your reasoning danny, it may help, instead of just a flat out no. We currently have enough people in jail without placing softer drug dealers (weed only I suppose for the sake of this argument) into jail. We cannot cope with such a large number, not compared to america. Do you not class memory loss as a danger rokhed? I'm not being flaming with this as it's not been proven fully as far as I'm aware, but it still stands. To me losing my memory because of a drug is quite something.. I do agree with Moogle I wouldn't base wikipedia for this, although it's interesting to see that spain apprently has a lagrer percentage of weed users than england. There are health risks attached to it mental health issues etc. Smoking anything is not good for anyones health. I know if it was legalised the crime element would be removed but until that ever happens it funds organised crimes. A large amount of weed (although not all) comes from places like afghan and thus funds the killing of british servicemen and women. For this reason i would increase sentances. As rockhead says hes smoked loads of it and hes a well rounded human being :indeed:
Dan_Dare Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Yeah well I think I smoked my body weight in the stuff over the last year, dabbled in class A's and got a 2:1 degree, with some of the best results I've ever got for academic work. doesn't exactly fit in to your theory.
S.C.G Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Doesn't really matter if it's legalised or not, people will still buy it regardless.
Noodleman Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 A large amount of weed (although not all) comes from places like afghan and thus funds the killing of british servicemen and women. For this reason i would increase sentances. Thats Heroin or Opium to be precise. Most weed in this country is grown in this country nowdays.
Sanchez Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 I do agree with Moogle I wouldn't base wikipedia for this, That wasn't his point, and that paragraph is footnoted with important sounding "committee's" and such so I would assume its accurate. If you want to look it's here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands
danny Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Yeah well I think I smoked my body weight in the stuff over the last year, dabbled in class A's and got a 2:1 degree, with some of the best results I've ever got for academic work. doesn't exactly fit in to your theory. My theory isnt that everyone who takes its an idiot. Just stated that there were risks. FFS all i stated was my opinion
Sanchez Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 There are risks in driving. There are risks in drinking. There are risks in smoking tobacco. There are risks in swimming. There are risks in going to war. And all of those kill more people than weed. Infact, I can't think of anyone ever dying directly from smoking weed.
Noodleman Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Nobody has ever died as a direct consequence of smoking weed. Obviously you are at a higher risk of getting lung cancer if you mix it with tobacco and dont use proper filters.
Fresh Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 There are risks in driving.There are risks in drinking. There are risks in smoking tobacco. There are risks in swimming. There are risks in going to war. And all of those kill less people than weed. Infact, I can't think of anyone ever dying directly from smoking weed. There was a story not long ago of a women smoking it, being sick and choking to death on her own vomit. While I know it's not directly weed but meh.
Noodleman Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 That was what I meant worded poorley admitadley
Sanchez Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 I also agree with the limits, but what do you class as hard alcohol there? Spoke with a dutchie friend of mine and he says anything with above 18% alcohol is considered "hard" under the law.
MoogleViper Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Maybe you could expand your reasoning danny, it may help, instead of just a flat out no. We currently have enough people in jail without placing softer drug dealers (weed only I suppose for the sake of this argument) into jail. We cannot cope with such a large number, not compared to america. I think most softer drug dealers also deal in harder drugs. This is only an assumption as I never have, and never will, touch the stuff. As for the crowded prisons, that would be helped if we re-introduced the death penalty for murder.
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