Dog-amoto Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 This game is absolutely awful - the story is terrible, the voice acting is atrocious, the level design is boring and repetitive, it takes ages to load a new area and the "hidden" loading is really cheap (like it takes 5 attempts to push a door open!) and there are glitches and crashes all over the place. And yet, none of the above really matter. I love this game. Purely due to the combat - the M+ swordfighting is absolutely stunning, the gunplay is fluid and it's incredibly satisfying to kill 10+ enemies while switching from gun to sword on the fly. No other game has given me this much immersion in the way it controls. I would have loved it if the first Red Steel controlled as good as this, as to be honest, I preferred the setting of the first game to this "Wild West" world but that's just my personal taste.
LostOverThere Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 I think I preferred the original game's diversity and story more than this one. The first was a bit more of a smash in that way. But in absolutely every other account, this smashes it. Combat, Controls, Graphics, Music, Weapons. It's a smash.
marcel Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) I think I preferred the original game's diversity and story more than this one. The first was a bit more of a smash in that way. But in absolutely every other account, this smashes it. Combat, Controls, Graphics, Music, Weapons. It's a smash. I completed the game yesterday (in about 10 hours) and I completely agree with you, not to flame the makers of the game but the environments in Red steel 2 are a complete hit or miss. The western designs are more or less copied from movies or other games with western themes, which to me is kind of uninspired. But on the other hands the Asian inspired environments are pretty good. If there is ever going to be a red steel 3 than I hope they will go back to the futuristic japan/asia but with the cell shading style of red steel 2. And trying to be as fugue as possible for the once that haven’t completed the game. It’s pretty much a completed story. Also that 500 000 sales projection that ubisoft set in stone for the game, is that for the whole fiscal year or just until august (a quarter of a year)? Edited April 3, 2010 by marcel
D_prOdigy Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) It's true - no lies or corruption...This IS £20 in Asda! (as is Silent Hill...) Went and picked it up this morning, and loving it so far. Just get it if you're on the fence. Edited April 3, 2010 by D_prOdigy
LostOverThere Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Just finished it at around the 11 hour mark. I tried a few of the side quests, but I reckon if you went through and did all the side missions, a single play through on medium could be over 15 hours. Honestly, I freaking loved it. Yes the characters and story are lousy, but this game does something not many other games do: it understands that it's a game and exploits that. As a result of that you're left with a wholly entertaining game, and some of the best fun I've had in a while. So here's the deal, I'm going to post some bargains and you're going to pick this bitch up: Red Steel 2: Zavvi - £29 Play (Special Edition) - £34 CD Wow - £32 Red Steel 2 (With MotionPlus): Zavvi - £37 Play (Special Edition) - £44 If you're sitting on the fence, just grab it.
marcel Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Sales for week 2 (europe only) sees a light dip in sales from 12,439(week 1) to 9,306(week 2). Hopefully the US sales can take that punch. BTW it now sold 77 354 copies worldwide (exclusive japan, anyone knows when its going to get released there?) It could hit the 100 000 mark with the US sales, i considder that a good selling core game.
D_prOdigy Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Sales for week 2 (europe only) sees a light dip in sales from 12,439(week 1) to 9,306(week 2). Hopefully the US sales can take that punch. BTW it now sold 77 354 copies worldwide (exclusive japan, anyone knows when its going to get released there?) It could hit the 100 000 mark with the US sales, i considder that a good selling core game. Cheer up, chuck. Silent Hill's sales rose by 908 in PAL territories this week!
khilafah Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Sales for week 2 (europe only) sees a light dip in sales from 12,439(week 1) to 9,306(week 2). Hopefully the US sales can take that punch. BTW it now sold 77 354 copies worldwide (exclusive japan, anyone knows when its going to get released there?) It could hit the 100 000 mark with the US sales, i considder that a good selling core game. Is that UK or Europe in general. Them sales figures are pathetic!!
D_prOdigy Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Is that UK or Europe in general. Them sales figures are pathetic!! Neither. It's supposed to be everywhere that isn't North America or Japan. But considering this is VGChartz we're talking about, it's all moot anyway.
marcel Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Cheer up, chuck. Silent Hill's sales rose by 908 in PAL territories this week! it also proofs that shattered memories sales have legs, it could sell 5000 copies for 20 or 30 weeks in europe. Almost certain that its going to be the best selling silent hill game on any platform. now ontopic: red steel 2 sales are better than SHSM hopefully no massive dip from the 55000 copies from the first week in the US.
Ren of Heavens Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 With a 70 million userbase the numbers are pretty awful. Less than 1 out of 1000 Wii owners bought it first week...
LostOverThere Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 With a 70 million userbase the numbers are pretty awful. Less than 1 out of 1000 Wii owners bought it first week... According to VGChartz...
marcel Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 According to VGChartz... you can say all you want about VGChartz but they where right on the 2 million sold for just dance(puked in my mouth) before ubisoft even made that press release. Ontopic: And the worse case scenario has happened. Red steel 2 wasnt even able to move 20k in sales for its second week in the US. It hung at 16 000, So the total sales of RS2 worldwide are 93 000. Is everyone waiting for a pricedrop or what? Sales like that proof why we always get out games late(sometimes even months)
LostOverThere Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Well if it's the end of the world as we know it, then I feel fine. Anyhow, this video is a bit old, but there's a post-release interview with Creative Director Jason Vandenberghe on GameSpot. Really great watch: http://au.gamespot.com/wii/action/redsteel2/video/6253961
James McGeachie Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 (edited) And the worse case scenario has happened. Red steel 2 wasnt even able to move 20k in sales for its second week in the US. It hung at 16 000, So the total sales of RS2 worldwide are 93 000. Is everyone waiting for a pricedrop or what? Serious truth here: Outside of the select extremely "core" internet forum type gamer, most hardcore gamers have completely abandoned their Wii's. I have a few friends that own a Wii, 360 and PS3. It wouldn't matter what kind of games were coming out on the Wii really...they wont be interested at all. A friend of mine owns both Mistwalker 360 RPG's. He's a fan of older Final Fantasy games and a big fan of Uematsu's music. I can't get him interested in The Last Story. He bought FFXIII first day. In 2006 some core gamers were forgiving of the idea that the Wii wasn't nearly as good looking visually as their next gen consoles and some early Wii titles sold well. in 2010, not many people are forgiving outside of the extreme Nintendo fans. Red Steel 2 is a game where no matter how good it was, it was doomed to fail at retail. I will go as far to say that no third party Wii hardcore title will ever sell as well as games like Umbrella Chronicles, RE4, etc ever again. Not ONE single game. Edited April 8, 2010 by James McGeachie
STOOPIDDITTIES Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 I will go as far to say that no third party Wii hardcore title will ever sell as well as games like Umbrella Chronicles, RE4, etc ever again.[/b] Not ONE single game. I'm sure if Resi 2 was remade with the Resi 4/5 gameplay, life itself would stand still and every person and their dog would have a copy. But that's a big if.
D_prOdigy Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Red Steel 2 is a game where no matter how good it was, it was doomed to fail at retail. I will go as far to say that no third party Wii hardcore title will ever sell as well as games like Umbrella Chronicles, RE4, etc ever again. Not ONE single game. Realistically, though... what exactly is on the horizon? The only real reason we're having this discussion as late as now is because Red Steel 2 was in development for so long. I think it's safe to say I probably won't be crying myself to sleep if The Conduit 2 doesn't pull 500,000 sales. I know it's compelling to take an interest in sales, I really get that. I do too. But just look back... what evidence do we have that a good-selling third-party game on Wii produces even better sequels? Resident Evil 4 did rather well, didn't it? Yay! More traditional Resi lovin' for Wii, then? Oh wait, that never happened. de Blob did fantastically. As our reward, THQ are pimping up the sequel on all consoles whilst talking about their love for "traditional controls" for the title. Companies are silly, and they don't always make logical decisions. Red Steel 2 hasn't done brilliantly so far. There's little chance of it matching the sales of the original, that's for sure. But - and maybe I'm being cynical here - I don't think it doing very very well would have made its future on Wii any more secure. What I'm trying to say is, people seem to get very concerned about how well games perform commercially when they just shouldn't worry themselves. An argument could be made that the state of third party success on Wii is at its lowest point ever. Yet an argument could also be made that 2010 is the console's best ever line-up. Paradox much? Don't worry about it, just enjoy the games!
LostOverThere Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 An argument could be made that the state of third party success on Wii is at its lowest point ever. Yet an argument could also be made that 2010 is the console's best ever line-up. Paradox much? Don't worry about it, just enjoy the games! D_prOdigy wins all the internets. /thread
Strange Cookie Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 Still undecided whether or not to buy this. I'm not a 'support the team'-guy, so buying for the general good and raising the sales isn't on my agenda. I think the style is pretty good, but while I like Eastern culture and Western, I don't feel like it's really working. It gives me too much of a sunday-morning-cartoon-vibe impression. But I've only watched it in video form, so that impression can be faulty. Is there enough variety, by which I mean, is there general purpose to what you're doing with several interesting situations that require different approaches, or is it simply 'Follow the marker, get in isolated area, bad guys appear, beat bad guys, area opened up, repeat until you get to boss'? Is there any recalibrating required during the game itself?
Zechs Merquise Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 Still undecided whether or not to buy this. I'm not a 'support the team'-guy, so buying for the general good and raising the sales isn't on my agenda. I think the style is pretty good, but while I like Eastern culture and Western, I don't feel like it's really working. It gives me too much of a sunday-morning-cartoon-vibe impression. But I've only watched it in video form, so that impression can be faulty. Is there enough variety, by which I mean, is there general purpose to what you're doing with several interesting situations that require different approaches, or is it simply 'Follow the marker, get in isolated area, bad guys appear, beat bad guys, area opened up, repeat until you get to boss'? Is there any recalibrating required during the game itself? I really enjoyed the game. I layed through the whole thing and am going through the Challenge mode right now. It has great crontols, and you only have to calibrate the controller once before your game. Graphics are superb, gameplay is great, I loved the level design and the open feeling to large parts of it. Also the constant unlocking of new abilities and the upgrading of your weapons is brilliant.
marcel Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) Sales for the 3rd week in the US: 13,383 copies and for europe 6,532 copies, so thats a total of almost 20 000 in its 3rd week. It now has a total of 113.000 in 3 weeks, thats what i call a nice number and i could certainly see this game selling past the 1 million mark by the end of the year(maybe even faster). Also that exclusive the japanese sales, the japanese releasedate for RS2 is May 27th 2010. Red steel 2 (Wii) /////////Japan////America/////EU/AUS/////Total w1///////n/a/////55,609////////12,439///////68,048 w2///////n/a//////15,974////////9,306///////25,280 w3///////n/a//////13,383////////6,532///////19,915 w4///////n/a//////n/a/////////n/a///////n/a w5///////n/a//////n/a/////////n/a///////n/a w6///////n/a//////n/a/////////n/a///////n/a w7///////n/a//////n/a/////////n/a///////n/a w8///////n/a//////n/a/////////n/a///////n/a w9///////n/a//////n/a/////////n/a///////n/a w10//////n/a//////n/a//////////n/a//////n/a (it sold 113 000 units so far) Edited April 14, 2010 by marcel
Will Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 Not with numbers like that it won't. If they are even accurate, I would really stop basing anything on VG Chartz word.
canand Posted April 16, 2010 Posted April 16, 2010 Has anyone seen the size of the Red Steel 2 Guide it's small.
canand Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 If you havent got Red Steel 2 and want it cheep get it today http://www.game.co.uk/lowdown.aspx?lid=13009&cm_mmc=Twitter-_-Offers-_-RedSteel2-_-Link
welsh_gamer Posted April 26, 2010 Posted April 26, 2010 Yes Brush up on your swordfighting! Started a new game yesterday, as I fancied playing something diffrent from MH3, plus so that I could "brush up on my swordfighting", and I managed to defeat Payne on my first go. Yay! With that done I was able to progess with the game (hadn't touched it in weeks!) and I ended up playing for 4 hours straight. Played for another 4 hours today before finishing it. Really enjoyed it, and it should defintley be in your collection if you loved the sword fighting games in Wii Sports Resort. Wasn't too keen on the first 2 chapters, mainly because the stages weren't very well designed and mosts rooms looked 'samey' , but the locations in the next chapters improved the look and feel of the game for me. Loved the first (and only!) quick time event in the game, but I don't understand why there weren't any more? Did they loose whoever was in charge of them or something!? Many of the later cut-scenes could of benefited from using them, instead of taking us out of the action. Story-wise I had no idea what was going on throughtout the majority of the game or why I was doing the missions, but it doesnt really matter with this type of game. A lot of reviewers said that you basically go from one location to another killing enemies, without much variety, and while this is true, once you start learning new moves, of which there are plenty, and upgrading your skills and weapons, no fight is ever the same, and I for one never though "Oh great, another bunch of enemies to kill, yawn" as each encounter was as much fun as the previous. My two favourite moves to pull off were The Guilotine and The Reaper. On your journey there are loads of crates to destroy and hidden rooms to discover which reward you with cash for your upgrades, which if you're familiar with the Lego games, can become quite a pretty addictive whole other game! So yeah, a great game, which gets a solid 8 /10 from me, and it's only £17.95 at Zavvi if you haven't brought it allready, and despite the poor early sales (I'm positive this will do well in the long-run), I do hope we see a third entry in the series on the Wii or as a launch title on Wii2. Btw, did anyone beat the final boss by using sword attacks? Feel that I cheated there because I just deflected every attack from him and then used my guns when he was stunned Oh, a quick question regarding 'Challenge' mode. I'm guessing it's just re-playing the chapters and collecting the highest amount of cash you can, but is it possible to finish the side-quests you started in this mode? I didn't realise that we had side-quests until chaper 3! :p
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