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Reckon YOU need to get over it. I'm only posting the stuff I've disappointed in. Here I'll do it again... (bolded ones are the biggest problems IMO) IMO crap things about TP: - For the most part, rubbish soundtrack. - Very dodgy looking graphics in places. - Still far too easy. - Hyrule Field may be bigger but there's pretty much nothing to do in it. - Kakariko Village is a joke. Empty, devoid of anything to do, population count of about 2. - Castle Town deceptively big. Again, not much to do. - Hardly any sidequests. - Dungeons 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 are tiny. - Travel time between dungeons 4 and 5, 5 and 6, 7 and 8, 8 and 9 is practically non existant. - Coolest items hardly get used apart from in their temple. - Very few note-worthy characters - Buggy Z-Targeting/camera - NO SENSE OF URGENCY, DANGER, FOREBODING. Link could have sat in the field for 10 years and nothing would have happened. No sense of time scale like Majora's Mask. - We have no clue what the final boss WANTED to do and no evidence that he was actually doing anything. - Link and final boss don't meet until the last second, big mistake. - Ending feels rushed. - Second half of game feels rushed. - No spells, medallion type weapons or magic. - Link picking up and marvelling at rupees every 5 seconds (and randomly) - Castle town is no where near as cool as Clock Town or Windfall Island. - Story seems to have been made up as the developers went along. - Boss fights, while cool, are WAY too easy still. - Not the 70 hour adventure we were promised, more like 30-35. - No character, magic, soul in the entire game bar a couple of moments. - Zora's domain and Goron mountain were a joke. A waterfall and a room where they fight? Give me a break. - Graveyard was no where near as cool as the one from OoT - Puzzles are very simple. - Nothing to do in Desert bar 1 thing, compared to Gerudo fortress + training ground, Desert Collusus and Wasteland from OoT - Cutscenes showed promise but got crap after dungeon 4.

Fair enough, I guess some people want to see more quality in Zelda games than others.

I've always known about opinions, when have I ever said any different. I think the game has enormous flaws that a lot of people on here refuse to see. But I still respect their opinion.

Fanman's never been that good with words. Or judgments.

Nah I still feel I have more to give

LOL I've said countless times how I love TP and respect people who do. There's enough people on here who go on and on about how perfect it is, so I talk about his shortcomings in the hopes that future Zeldas will do better.

Mario, Metroid and Phantom Hourglass has already been rumoured to be Xmas titles.

Cheers. Thought so too

Why's that? Don't you get it? THIS TP THREAD = For discussion on the game, good or bad. If you want a happy, smiley, sugar coated TP thread either 1) go back in time and tell the developers to do a better job in making the game or 2) start your own 'POSITIVE COMMENTS ON TWILIGHT PRINCESS' topic.

Go through this thread and you'll see me writing 'in my opinion' a lot. I don't always of course fair enough and I'm sorry if it comes across as fact, but the fact is... everyone does it. Fanman stated an opinion as fact in his last message because he didn't write 'I think' the dungeons are....

That won't take you long. I agree. And I'm glad someone agrees with me that the first half is better than the second. I do respect other people's views of the game, do they respect mine? Or even try to understand? Nope.

What a surprise you disagree with me. Ignoring the handful of sidequests the game has for a moment. The amount of stuff to do in the first half beats the second hands down. The overall quality and polish of the game, it's cutscenes and the music is infinitely better in the first half AND the dungeons are bigger, more involved and better thought out. Play it from the beginning and you'll see what I mean.

At least I don't love everything ever made like you.

Instruction Manual?

You just don't get it do you? The swearing and beer makes him look like a tw@t. He's annoying, not funny. He may be funny to pre-pubescents (as the poster above says). And thanks, obviously I need you to point out that he swears because he's ANGRY. sigh.

You know playing the game a second time made me realise something, or at least confirm my earlier thoughts... The first half of the game (ie. from the beginning up to dungeon 4) is so much better than the second half it's unreal. In quality, quantity of things to do, character and story. The first half is actually very very impressive, it's a shame things go seriously downhill after that, with the exception of a couple of cool items and dungeon designs.

Apologies Fierce

Sorry Dante, I should have written 'he' meant.

That's not what I meant. Reading through your posts over the past few months it's painfully clear that the AWARD FOR DUMBEST/SLOWEST N-EUROPE FORUM MEMBER GOES TO... EMASHER!!! and what a surprise, he's canadian. I actually call them fanboys because they find it impossible to criticise TP even when after the glaring plot holes, and huge drops of quality.

What a surprise.

What the hell are you talking about? Everytime we'd seen him up until dungeon 8 he was cool, tough looking and menacing. In dungeon 8 he turns into a hissy moron who can't stop jumping around and screaming like a little girl?? Eh??

Of course you did.

Yes, yes you are.

You nonce!