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Ya I take that back, sorry. I knew I shouldn't have said that, it was silly. I know the Mario Galaxies deserve to be near the top but was wondering will there vote get diluted slightly between the 2, hindering their chance of top spot? My statement was more a referral to Skyward Sword. I hate the laziness of the game and yet people have voted it close to no.1. It is easily the worst Zelda for me. Edit: I'm officially blind. How did I miss 1-10?

1. Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Monster Hunter Tri That would be mission accomplished. Won't happen unfortunately. There are too many closed minds. We can guesstimate what's the top 10 ourselves or work out the exact order by going through the votes. They'll be out later today so not really worth the trawling and scribbling.

@Mokong X\-C Thanks wasn't sure if it should've been in general discussion or eShop discussion, it was relevant to both. It was only afterwards I thought it was important enough and deserving of it's own thread and discussion as evidenced by the response. Thanks for making things neat and tidy. Edit: This is Europe only. Nintendo's European headquarters are in Germany and they have been very careful in the past releasing 18+ games and some indeed have been censored. Germany are more strict than other European countries. I think Nintendo might be wary of falling foul of German laws and facing fines. Just a guess.

WTF? That's really shitty. I thought Goldeneye Reloaded and Dead Space Extraction were great games. Hopefully the employees will be snapped up. Horrible time of year to lose your job. Would they have got redundancy payment?

Please don't tarnish this thread with that stain.

It's just Europe I think. This limit exists regardless of parental controls being set.

I did but then thought this deserves it's own thread and general discussion thread will be onto pg.238 soon and swallowed up and missed by many. Please try to defend this decision? For your information, I own every Nintendo console system and handheld bar the 3DS. I even bought the NintendoLand deluxe Wii U bundle despite my better judgement but I'd never missed a launch before so...... They make some stupid decisions and I don't have to praise everything they do when a lot of them are clearly wrong. This included. So try harder tiny!

Nintendo blocking 18+ rated Wii U eShop content at certain times "The times during which this content can be viewed have been restricted." Nintendo of Europe blocks access to 18-rated content on the Wii U eShop at certain times of day, system messages suggest. Users are unable to access trailers for 18-rated Wii U games or buy 18-related content. The issue first came to light after a NeoGAF user experienced the issue and contacted Nintendo of Italy's customer support. "Dear customer," a Nintendo representative replied, "we would like to let you know that Nintendo has always aimed to offer gameplay experiences suited to all age groups, observing carefully all the relevant regulations regarding content access that are present in the various European countries. "We have thus decided to restrict the access to content which is unsuitable to minors (PEGI) to the 11pm - 3am time window." Eurogamer has just tested this and it appears to be true. We were unable to access Assassin's Creed 3 information or buy ZombiU digitally. "You cannot view this content," a message reads. "The times during which this content can be viewed have been restricted." There messages appear for user accounts on which no parental controls have been set. Eurogamer has contacted Nintendo for more information and will update when we hear back. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-12-07-nintendo-blocking-18-rated-wii-u-eshop-content-at-certain-times Well done Nintendo. Another capital retarded decision. What is the point of having parental controls if you can't use them? What if you work nights? Access stops at 3 a.m? Right because that's the time kids get up at. What will publishers think of having a 4 hour window to sell their games? Always one step forward, three steps backwards with Nintendo. There are so many things wrong with this. I predict this will be dropped within a week. It's already causing a huge uproar. This will really attract the hardcore crowd and do wonders to eradicate that kiddie image of theirs.

So what's better? Mario Galaxy 1/2? Mention anything else and this discussion is over.

Couldn't agree more. Without a doubt the best game on the Wii. Don't mind that noise above.

Rubbish! Had Moses not got that undeserved winner against Donetsk 4 minutes into injury time a few weeks ago it would have been more clear. Good riddance to the Chelsea wankbags! First team defending the Champions League to go out at the league stage. You know why? It's because they robbed it last year the whole way along, especially the semis and final against Barcelona and Bayern Munich respectively. It just papered over the cracks of what are a bunch of f**king c**ts! Enjoy the Europa League muppets. I hope they meet Liverpool and they kick 50 shades of shite out of Chelsea. On a positive note, fair play to Celtic last night, weren't great on the night but definitely deserved it over the 6 matches. Love It!!!

Congratulations! You're the first person to pick up on that, I just knew somebody would make a smart arsed comment. It could take longer than 3 hours to pass some of the $h1t on Wii U. :wink:

Yes and what if you want to sit outside or on the crapper? There's no sockets. 3 hours battery life is awful. Really bad. Bring on the 3rd party battery packs and the inevitable longer lasting gamepad with much improved battery life that comes with later SKU's as production costs go down. Some people just blindly defend nearly every Nintendo decision no matter what. I'm not referring to you shin.

Ffs. We all know it sold a mountain load. That's not the point. What "game" would you rather PLAY, Wii Fit U or NSMBU?

I'm talking about Nintendo developed games and please don't mention Wii Fit U, especially as a "game". *shudders*

Well there has to be and there should be more titles coming because E3 is in June so I can't imagine only 3 Nintendo published titles in all that time from launch until then. Pikmin 3 arrives supposedly in March.

I'd like to see something new but it doesn't sound promising if it's just up to early 2013. What else besides Pikmin 3 does Nintendo have and that started life as a Wii title?

The ZombiU comic is now complete. http://z-14.ubisoft.uk.com/

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life As A King? :wink:

Torres sacked in the morning!

I hope it goes well too. They put alot of effort in and are working on improving it further via updates even after launch. It's one of the prettier launch games.

Trine 2: Director's Cut Review Developer: Frozenbyte | Size: 1880 MB | Price: $19.99 A delightfully open-ended sequel that shouldn't be missed by any puzzle fan. Lucas' Note: Trine 2 first launched for PCs. PlayStation Network and Xbox Live Arcade a little less than a year ago, in December 2011. It earned a rating of 9/10 and an Editor's Choice Award from Daemon in his original review, and after playing the new Wii U edition I find that his thoughts are still perfectly appropriate today. So read Daemon's words here, then I'll jump back in at the end with "The Wii U Difference" section: A trine is a group of three. It was also a clever 2009 puzzle platformer starring a trio of adventurers, each with specific talents. Lucky us, now we have a sequel, Trine 2, that offers more fun physics-based challenges, more beautiful vistas, and adds online multiplayer to the mix. The first thing I noticed about Trine 2 is its stunning visuals. Each scene, from forests to caves to lazy beaches, shines with rich detail and startling lighting effects. There is always something amazing to distract you. Trine 2 easily makes for one of the prettiest games of the year. Trine 2's trio of heroes. If you played the first Trine, you'll find a very familiar game here. Players run from left to right through fantasy spectacles, surmounting obstacles and slaying a few goblins along the way. You have three heroes at your disposal: a wizard that can conjure blocks and platforms, a thief with a bow and grappling hook, and a knight with sword, hammer, and shield. The brilliance of Trine 2 is that it mostly leaves the choice of which hero to use up to you. I love it when a game lets me off my leash and tells me "have fun," – and that's the kind of game Trine 2 is. It does fail to teach the player some important mechanics, though, resulting in slight exasperation when you don't realize a solution is even possible. The wizard's platforms, for instance, can be stuck to swinging spiked maces, resulting in a pendulum conveyance. That's really cool, but it would have been nice to get a heads-up before I found myself stuck at the bottom of an ice slope for a little too long. When playing by yourself you switch between the three heroes at will. In a matter of moments you might slash through some goblins as the knight, switch to the thief to grapple to a high platform, then switch to the wizard to move a heavy block in front of a flamethrower. Trine 2 is also very friendly about multiplayer gaming, allowing up to three players to join the adventure either locally or online. I find the game becomes easier this way because you've got more than just one brain working on problems and you can multitask, but it's still satisfying. The few boss fights prove slightly disappointing. While visually impressive, they don't require the same thought as the rest of Trine 2. Merely crossing a chasm can be a real conundrum, but felling a giant beast is as simple as giving it a few whacks to its weak spots. I do love the way the bosses are foreshadowed early on in levels, though. Trine 2 on the Wii U is labeled a "Director's Cut," and rightly so – it further expands the adventures of Amadeus the Wizard, Pontius the Knight and Zoya the Thief by integrating the content of the Goblin Menace expansion right into the initial download. (See the trailer, embedded up above.) That download is a large one, though – much bulkier than any of the other Day 1 eShop-only releases in Nintendo's newest shop, so if you're planning to take the plunge, prepare to give up a bit more of your time to the downloading and installing process alongside a bigger chunk of your hard drive's free space. That investment of time, space and 20 bucks' worth of your money is well worth it, though, because Trine 2 shines on Wii U. The visuals are lavishly detailed, with an organic, living beauty that you can choose to view either on your TV or off – the whole game can be played solely on the GamePad if you choose. A variety of control schemes is implemented for several controller configurations, too, and each has it own appeal – using the GamePad you can conjure the wizard's blocks and platforms into existence using the touch screen. If you use a Wii Remote and Nunchuk instead, though, pointing at objects to levitate them or aim Zoya's arrows becomes easier. Trine 2's online multiplayer also worked out very well in my time testing it, though, as with any online game, you'll find better results if you coordinate with friends rather than jumping into games with strangers – because, should another player drop out of the session, your adventure is also immediately ended. So if you're looking to tackle Trine 2 as part of a player trio, I'd recommend making a plan to play with a couple of confirmed non-droppers ahead of time. THE VERDICT Trine 2 throws players into a dazzling fantasy world and gives them three fun characters – tools, really – with which to save it. It's delightfully open-ended, from how you solve problems to whether or not you go it alone. Fans of puzzle games will not be disappointed. Trine 2: Director's Cut on Wii U 9.0 AMAZING Trine 2's trio is back and looking better than ever in Wii U's Director's Cut. http://ie.ign.com/articles/2012/11/26/trine-2-directors-cut-review NintendoWorldReport 9/10 Digital Chumps 9.4/10 Hardcore Gamer Magazine 4.5/5 Joel from Frozenbyte here - nice review, thanks. We will indeed add Voice Chat in an update, and we will certainly add support for the Wii U Pro Controller as well. Both of these should come in the first update which we're planning for December. Moreover... We will also do some magic to the game's visuals, so the game will look even better after the update. (So the game should look better on an SD TV too, although of course SD TV will never be optimal.) - Joel, Frozenbyte team, developers of Trine 2: Director's Cut Joel speaking on, how easy is it to get an update on the eShop? Is it a painful process, or is Nintendo pretty awesome about it? Updates remain to be seen, but should be a breeze compared to other consoles, so we're very optimistic. http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/new-releases/wii-u/metascore?view=condensed&hardware=all This is 1 of the highest rated games on Wii U and deserves some attention and positive promotion.

Good :p or Bad ?

What do people think of my Wii U setup? I don't know why people are saying the update takes so long. It only took me about a minute to update my Wii U. I'll mainly use it for Wii games though.

I could honestly and easily name at least 30 games that are far better.