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This. Add to that more people played the original than WSR, so more votes. It's the same story with Metroid Prime 3 and Metroid Prime Trilogy. The former has a million more sales than the latter. That's why Prime placed higher even though Trilogy is clearly the better game.

Exactly. I don't care what somebody says about me. I'm not getting a ban but part of my warning was about using bad language. Now if the rules were taken literally you could be looking forward to a warning Fused King for your bad language in your post. That would be stupid though. My argument is you can't be cherry picking the rules just because you don't like my point of view.

I put up a response on Thursday, then took it down but I'm putting it back up again well because you are wrong in your response. You are referring to this. I said this at 1.50p.m. but the infraction was only given 2.08p.m. I was questioning why I should get an infraction before I got one so I didn't break any rule. Oh I've read your PM and trust me you'll be getting a PM back. Thanks for the support Rummy and I agree, I don't approve of trying to do things behind closed doors either. It smacks of cloaks and daggers. You are right, people have been far more disrespectful towards me, called me names and been just as aggressive. I know the mods have seen this and turned a blind eye. It's alright for them to do so but where is the consistency? It's double standards, that's what it is. I haven't made personal attacks. It was directed at the game. If people on this forum were to get infraction warnings for bad language, they'd be handed out left, right and centre. I don't care about the names, it just bounces off me and I will stand my ground. @Zechs Merquise Thanks for that list. I don't know why but that list looks better. I know it helps lumping MP3 with Trilogy. This list had problems caused by changing it from top 25 to top 50 halfway through the process and yet keeping it at 10 votes each. I think it let weaker games sneak in.

New Super Mario Bros. U - Developer Discussion Some interesting info on the little touches within this game that I wasn't aware of.

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The last statement is not about this thread but about how Nintendo have gone about their business recently. As far as quoting the 3 people, their voting ranking and the games ranking was just to in part highlight, I wasn't lying, how easy it was to get a game up the chart and I think I did that. 3 votes, 3rd, 6th and 8th = 33rd place.

Why is this thread open if people aren't free to discuss and debate the results? Of course the results won't be changed and I haven't told people to change their opinions. This thread has had discussion that I'm sure it otherwise wouldn't and would slip away down the list of active threads. I never said Skyward Sword doesn't belong on the list. It clearly does. It's not a bad game, it's a bad Zelda. Big difference. The worst in my opinion. It's perfectly fine to sing a games praises but be damned if you criticise it? Infractions? For what? I'm not being personal. It's just my opinion and it's promoting discussion. Seriously. Just because some people might not like it and some people on this site may be perfectly happy to have Nintendo repeatedly kick them in the face and say "Please Sir, may I have some more?", well I'm not one of them.

I know you're right. Just look at the review they gave Skyward Sword. The Legend Of Zelda: Skyward Sword 9.5/10

I for one and a lot of other people care too. It gives the average of all the scores for a game from all the sites and publications across the globe. It's a fair reflection of a games quality and balances out high and low reviews.

These reviews are from metacritic: 50. BOOM BLOX Bash Party 86% 49. The Beatles rock band 89% 48. The Last Story 80% 47. Beat The Beat: Rhythm Paradise 83% 46. Wario Ware: Smooth Moves 83% 45. Punch-Out!! 86% 44. Rabbids Go Home 78% 43. Opoona 65% 42. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn 78% 41. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock 86% 40. Disaster: Day of Crisis 69% 39. Sonic Colours 78% 38. Kirby's Adventure Wii 77% 37. Super Paper Mario 86% 36. Wario Land: The Shake Dimension 78% 35. Animal Crossing: Let’s Go to the City 73% 34. Dead Space: Extraction 82% 33. Wii Music 63% 32. World of Goo 90% 31. Sin & Punishment 2 87% 30. Rayman Origins 92% I don't believe I need to go any further as I'm fairly confident every title after this will have higher reviews than 63%. So out of all those titles from all the critic reviews around the world, Wii Music reviewed the worst. It's a bad game and doesn't belong on the list in my opinion.

Yeah I know it's a little strong but I say it as I see it. I gave the names and numbers to show I wasn't bullshitting and if they see fit, they can defend their vote. I said the game is shite, I'm not attacking them personally. I apologise but as I say it's nothing personal and it's just a bit of craic.

I know it's just my OPINION and my OPINION isn't fact. It's just discussion and promoting other games that didn't make it. People can take it or leave it. Definitely agree more votes would have helped. I meant to say that before. I think changing from the top 25 to top 50 caused this. I know I would have voted for some of the omitted games I listed above if I had more votes. Edit: I'm forcing my opinion? How is that even possible? I can't force anybody to my way of thinking nor do I want to. Re: Little Kings Story. It was only 1 game, my last vote and it was to help promote a game I know I'll like. I said I didn't play it yet. Other people could have done likewise if they so felt. I take your point though. @Cube I too see why others voted Mario Kart in. It wasn't bad but it was too much of a lottery. Noobs had as good a chance of winning. That and voice chat was a glaring omission.

You're talking pony. I've given many, many, many examples of why I think this game is lazy as well you should know. I can't be bothered to rehash my points. As others have said, they got my message, so no need. Read the old thread if you want to see what I said.

What game was that? It should be Skyward Sword but I know it's not. I know it's from either Mario Kart, Wii Sports, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Monster Hunter 3 or Xenoblade. So it has to be either Wii Sports or Mario Kart. If you choose one of the others, then sorry, fail.

The demo for this game is apparently up on the American eShop so hopefully not too long a wait for the European version.

Heads up! Thar she blows! Incoming Epicness! Rayman Legends demo now available in Wii U eShop Hit up your Wii U and start downloading your Rayman Legends demo! As promised, Ubisoft delivered the demo today. Cannot wait to get some more time with this one! The long promised Rayman Legends demo on the Wii U is now available on the eShop. It had been revealed that the demo would release on December 13th but its one hour before midnight and it’s here a little early. The download clocks in at 577MB so it shouldn’t be too long of a download. The demo has a 30 play limit. Enjoy everyone! http://gimmegimmegames.com/2012/12/rayman-legends-demo-available-in-wii-u-eshop-right-now/ http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=192800 Edit: Just to add you won't need to worry about downloading this after the watershed. :wink: 2nd Edit: Just checked it's not on the European eShop yet but it shouldn't be too long.

So many games deserve to be on this list instead of some of the muck that instead stinks up this list. I'm looking at you "Wii Music". Words fail to describe how awful this is. I checked back over the votes because I wanted to see who voted for this miscarriage. 3 people voted this in their top 10. @Dcubed , @RedShell and @Josh64. It was voted 8th, 3rd and 6th best respectively and that got it a place at 33. 33? It doesn't belong on any list, maybe the top 50 worst games. It was shite. It's only redeeming feature was that it was passable as a multiplayer game, if even. Awful songs of what limited choice there was. I've only ever sold 2 Wii games and this was 1 of them. I never sell games so it takes a lot for that to happen. It has a metacritic score of 63%, take out the Nintendo biased reviews and it would be far worse. If any other developer created this monster it would have been universally lambasted. Even in it's little blurb on this list, it doesn't say what's great about it, it tries to defend itself against the hate it rightfully deserves. Good games like De Blob, Red Steel 2, A Boy and his Blob, Tiger Woods, PES and others don't make the list but this abomination does? Sad! I said Wii Sports didn't deserve to be placed so high, I looked at my votes, I voted it in at number 8. Silly me. What was I thinking? In terms of impact it's probably number 1 but 8th best game? No way! It is a tech demo, that is all. Look at the golf game, 9 holes, 1 course, no depth of gameplay, basic graphics. The same can be said of all the sports bar Wii bowling. Wii Tennis, you don't even move your character.

This is the European boxart for Lego City: Undercover.

I agree with everything you've said but don't you know you're not allowed criticise NEW Super Mario Bros. U? The Defenders Of The Dirt will do their duty as only they know how.

Yes, they use it to place restrictions on the eShop.

Do they really though? I was only guessing when I made that suggestion. Are the laws that severe that you only have a 4 hour window for viewing and purchasing? Yet you can use the browser to view any of these videos or worse 24/7. There are other easier ways to restrict child access. Or is this Nintendo being Nintendo and anally retentive?

Yeah, voting is flawed. Xenoblade is head and shoulders number 1, after that it's a debate. Trouble is more people have played Mario Galaxy 1&2 and other games than Xenoblade. It's a popularity contest more than what is the best game. I can't even remember how I voted after Xenoblade. But personally now it's: 1. Xenoblade 2. Twilight Princess 3. Monster Hunter 4. Okami 5. Mario Galaxy It changes all the time. It's a great list overall, just the order of some are severely flawed. That and Rhythm Heaven belongs in a bin.

I didn't say it was a bad game, just it's the worst Zelda. The benchmark for this series is so high and it fell well short. I was glad when it was over, it was a chore and a bore. Take away the motion controls and it really isn't great. If only Twilight Princess had motionplus. Even without it, it's still leagues ahead. Now Wii Sports turn. In terms of importance, it's probably no.1 but in terms of graphics, music, depth of gameplay, level of polish? It was a tech demo, loved bowling, definitely the best and most accurate sport but again overall hardly deserving of a top 10 place.

Why what console doesn't get 18+ games? We should be so grateful, it really is a privilege.