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I'll be posting some shorter remarks on this conference and updating this thread for Windows users to easely find their way to it (and see how exactly Apple is going to be not-so-innovative from what I've seen this year). Just wanted to try this posting. Opinions are welcome, off course, but I'll be editing the post with the latest info. New powerfull iMacs with the aluded keyboard. Looks good, will come in Aluminium and the good old white flavor (as far as I can see, though) Nothing impressive up until now (even iLife '08 looks a little 'been there, done that') but i'm holding my breath for the 'one more thing', wich might be something bigger than Safari for Windows. Updating the .mac features. Still not impressed, but it looks nice nonetheless. Still don't steal my 99 bucks for that, though. If closer integration of .mac with iLife is what they're pointing at, it's not the great innovation, but more something that should have been established when the service went live and users got their hands on iLife. Too little, too late. Let other users in my $99 .mac account? I'm not letting them do that to me, let them pay themselves! Grave security error if you ask me... iMovie increased functionality: now with .mac - what the hell? Are they finally getting their online act together? Indeed they are, with combining forces with Google to get your movies on YouTube - quickly and painless - and give your grandma a High-defenition movie. I don't really see the point up to now, Steve bragges about being able to export in many resolutions, but can't all basic Video-editors let you choose what resolution you publish in? Innovation acces: denied (for now). It does sound pretty impressive, actually, when you see how fast it works. It appears to look like a professional application and work in similar manner as Windows Movie Maker (that one time I launched it to give it a try). But faster. Much faster. Steve just made a movie in a split-second (probably five minutes, since even macs don't do it that fast) and showed a movie edited in 20 minutes by on of their engineers. Pretty nice. Enhanced iDVD. Still no trace of iBlu-Ray or iBD (or iHDDVD, if you care). Garageband gets some updates too. iLife avaible right now for $79. Yey! Now let's move on... .mac for $99.95 with 10TB storage. That means you get ten times as much for the same bucks. Convincing, but not enough to switch me to the Web 2.0, Steve! KeyNote '08 gets easier animations, simpler cropping of your images, create easy slides ('that mere mortals can understand' - not my words), new themes. pretty unimpressive, but hey - this conference doesn't do it's job really well for now... Pages '08 introduces a word-processor and a page layout designer in one package. with contextual format bar. Sounds like something a certain company introduced in their latest productivity suite (wich was named 'Office 2007'). And great, Apple-designed templates for your generic page design! Welcome to Apple, Numbers! The only application missing to make iWork the real productivity suite is finally in, and it's called 'numbers'. Working in similar way as the rest of the suite, but having the innerds of an accountant - this beast will help you with your number crunching... And one more thing... We can have a Q&A session today, because we're in this intimate session! Not a new Mac Mini, iPod or even a smaller iPhone. Sad breaking of tradition, Steve. That's it! The Q&A tells us the Mac Mini is updates today and announments on Apple Tv are to be announced soon. But that concludes the Apple Summer Conference, wich - in my opinion - was compeltely worthless except for the improved iMovie (wich looks great, by the way) and the new Numbers application. Thje rest was complete bullocks.

Certainly an improvement, although I'de like a little more to play with. Maybe there could be an SDcard Channel? That might be more productive, just drop your channels in there and voila, they're on your SD card. Would save us hell of a hassle. Also I'de love to be able to get some customization. Change the color of the menu maybe? Use your own wallpapers? Allow the Wii Remote to zap me from Diagon Alley to Hogwards? Yeah, that's what I mean, Nintendo! Serious, though, the update took me ten minutes to install and the improvements are sufficient to be noticeable here an there. Good job, although a lot ofd improvement is to be done, Nintendo! And you're so funny now. How many Wii's have crashed in total? Worldwide? If the number checks the 10.000 box, I'de be surprised...

If you go to Thelma's bar, you always get pinpointed directly to where you need to be. Too easy, if you ask me.

Honestly, Tapedeck, you start ouit by saying that in Perspective it's still a great game and then start summing up all the point someone would use in offense of that. But okay, I get your point nonetheless. But what you said doesn't make it a positive game, actually. I somehow preferred the Wind Waker even though the Wind Waker was fairly linear too. But while you were on the great sea (once again sailing from Windfall to Outset), you would find tiny islands and at least have something more to do than look for surroundings. Ah well, I did enjoy TP's bug hunt!

That's mostly due to the fact that actually no-one in the town can speak. Only a few characters actually have lines and even few have any problems that Link can solve. But what I would have loved is some people outside the towns, too. You know, several with a horse on a trading route perhaps? And Zora's Domain isn't a sprawling city like it was in Ocarina of Time, it's just a big rock with Zora's on it. (I also find the new look of the Zora's disturbing). You know, now that I thnink about it, there's something about the scale of the game. It's way too big. Think of Lake Hylia - now take the one from ocarina of time (remember it?) It was compact, small and it had everything it needed to. A wacky fisherman, an insane professor, a weird shaped house, an Island in the Middle, a temple underneath and a pathway to Zora's domain. Now let's take the one we find it Twilight Princess. It's huge. It's got a cannon in the middle. You can't swim up the river or even attempt to. You have a temple hidden at the bottem (but all but a majestic one, actually). But what do we have apart from that? Can we shoot an arrow to the sun in the early morning and get fire arrows? Nay. Can we trade a frog for an antidote with a loony professor? Nay. Can we go fishing in a small pond with a wack-o pond-manager who's hat you can take of? Uhm, nay. Lake Hylia is on of the examples where there is less to do on a bigger space. And to be fairly honest, I think that's Twilight Priuncess' problem: it wants to be grand, but frankly, it's empty - a large, huge so to say, space with less to do in it. I'de rather have a smaller Zelda with more fun things to do and expreiment with (no honestly, using a giant electronic bird to fly up the valley? That's not the greatest experience! Couldn't we have invaded the moblin fortress build on the side of the valley to pass through or something? And what's up with that cannon?). I want less grandeur, more garneur (that's (pretty louzy) french for the details on a meal).

In the end, they're always there to talk Nintendo out of any lawsuits with not other reason. They seem to be spending a lot to be sure that the controllers don't fly into your tv, so they don't get sued their asses of in a class-action somewhere in Texas.

And maybe Iwata will snag all the attention by making the biggest news in his speech, like he did with the Wiimote. It made Microsoft and Sony shiver that day, since Nintendo just stole their limelight by revealing something in a speech. That was all that most game websites could talk about back then, and Sony and Microsoft went hiding in the shadows.

Or maybe Nintendo thinks it has already won in Japan and is preparing for The Leipzig Games Convention instead? Probably, if you ask me - they might have a bigger focus on this show. Or maybe they're preparing for E for All. No, I'm sorry, just kidding.

This whole discussion is unnecessary. Not usefull. Hate-creating (somebody did call mac owners Nazi's, so we're pretty far in!). Name-calling (Nazi's!). And it's the wrong subject. The fact that we are discussing it meant that Apple made good advertisements. Because if you make an ad, you want people to talk about it and your product. Any publicity is good publicity. Now stop whining, and about the Windows vs. Mac users - Mac users oinly bting up Mac a) because it's a viable option just as much as every other computer (if people ask what laptop they should buy, Apple is just as much an option as a Windows laptop) or b) to piss you guys off (mainly because you're so damn funny about it, once you see the word 'Mac', your eyes turn red and your skin green. Almost as if you're jaleous and angry at us for being so good).

Exactly, Shorty. I really don't see the problem here. This is what underdogs do. Now stop complaining! We didn't complain when Vista had the slogan 'The Wow! Starts now', even though it's just as much of a lie.

Honestly, what is advertising other than making toher people think you're the best? And by the way, the fact that we're talking about it right now - means it are damn good advertisements! Every word about it is a word that gets Apple's marketing team out the door! But I don't find them patronizing. I find them pretty good parodies and exagurated advertisement. It's really awesome, really, really awesome! No really, Apple has made one of the most known advertisement campaigns? You're just complaining because they are selling macs now because of these wonderfully crafted advertisements :wink:.

They said this a year ago. EA said this a year ago, and look how they've bended their minds! I'm getting tired of this, but on the long run, he might be right (see the thread about Dave perry for my opinion).

See, every time something pops up that makes a joke about mac and pc, windows users start pissing off again for no obvious reason. I found this one fairly amusing (thanks for giving your honest opinion, guys, apparantly British Humor is not as great as it used to be) and I thought that you guys would respond like this. It just proves once again how atacking Windows-users are. Yes, I use mac. Ues, it's about Microsoft and Windows chairman Bill Gates and something with a mac, but that doesn't mean we have to start fighting again? See, I posted this - not to provoke a mac vs. pc discussion - but to check how you guys respond. And you did just as everyone could have guessed: "Because nobody has ever thought what if Bill Gates bought a mac. This is why Apple sucks, people just buy into their bulllshit and follow everything they say. Steve Jobs probably paid for this propaganda." (by Calza) - Here he starts, pointing out something that has absolutely nothing to do with a Web Comic... "I'd be embarassed if I was was caught with a Mac, actually after I bought one, used it, hated it and sent it back." (by Ryan) - he didn't even say anything about the comic! See how windows users are turning this into a anti-mac discussion? "To be honest it's more the Mac Side trying to convert the windows side, by bringing up Steve Blowjob and his Macs.." (by Ant-Shimmin) - No really, you didn't even mention the comic strip! And by the way, let's insult the man that made the MP3 players popular! You might even want to insult all the people who do believe that his vision on the industry is what affects Microsoft, too. Let's not forget that the people who are using Vista, owe a lot of thanks to Steve Job's visionairy ideas. No really, nothign personal, but what the heck was all that about? Can't you jsut say, this isn't funny at all. Now go and wee somewhere in a dark corner? Without adding 'you freak of a mac user'? Is that so hard? Age is apparantly at a low-point this time of the year.

If you're a windows user, you apparantly don't know what the hell fun is :-D - you're only good at doing graph papers and not making home videos ;-). Ah well, I find this one quite funny even though you guys couldn't give a damn. Why the hell can't you just learn how to laugh and stop whining about the thruth? Thruth only gets us this far. And Harribo, this is Wulff-Morgenthaler. You might not like them, but these guys have tv-shows on danish television, so they're pretty popular (and good, for that matter). You suck if you think that webcomics are crap, but that's youropinion. keep it for yourself, losy.

I ain't no Sony-fanboy either (never owned a PlayStation) but I'm annoyed by the fact that the Nintendo-fanboys seem to walk over Sony as if they have already won the battle. And that's just not true. If Nintendo can keep the pace up, -yes-, they will turn out victorious. But right now, let's keep it real and Sony in account.

Again, you are wrong. Nintendo has a vast core or hardware developers, of technicians, of engineers. They are always developing new hardware and looking for the most powerfull option. I'm pretty sure Nintendo had a model set up using a better PowerPC Processor (G5 or something), better graphics card and HD output. As a hardware company, they know that they'll nee HD in the future. I'm pretty sure that if you get into Nintendo HQ deep enough, you'll find some astounding (but bigger) Wii's. Nintendo never said 'they weren't bothered' to upgrade it, that's what ou made of it. Nintendo said they weren't going High-Defenition because the market was not ready for it (and the facts were that the HD-tv numbers were low). Nintendo is not against HD, but they certainly just 'didn't bother' with upgrading the hardware. The engineers improved the current hardware, yes, but you can be pretty sure that they have better hardware - even if it's just for seeing the result. Probably they picked the cheaper one afterwards, wich means more profit (and at the time they had a viable reason for not choosing it).

I'm really sorry, but I just couldn't let this one slip. Just the fun off this one made me laugh out laud.

You're right, DCK, but with the wrong idea. Nintendo started off designing the case in wich the hardware inside should fit. When the actual chip design started (wich was after E3 2005), Iwata had already been on stage stating 'this is the box of the revolution', 'this is how it will look'. Now the Nintendo engineers had to fit the chipset inside the tiny casing. But I sincerely doubt that Nintendo did all this because of HD. I don't believe you DCK when you state that Nintendo suddenly realised that they couldn't pull of HD. They chose not to pull it off. If they didn't push forward their 'irrelevant graphics' concept, they would have designed a better and more powerfull console pulling off HD. But think of it differently: they said that graphics are not important, and it send a Huge Shock through the industry. And Bam! Nintendo received enormous attention for their console. No matter what was said about it, people were talking about it. And it also makes it possible for Nintendo to make profits. So it's a double profit for Nintendo: people notice Nintendo's new project and Nintendo can make a cheaper console.

And you might perhaps wonder... why? Why the hell does Safari run more stable on MacOS X? Could it have something to do with the fact that APple developed the entire codes within their OS? That could be it.

Nintendo said that two years ago and that day it was a viable decision. But now the tides have changed a little, so it would make sense. Nintendo will jump in once the market is ready for it and the price can be ready. It is not only for movies that you can use Blu-Rays (although I really doubt you would be able to play movies on it). By the way, the article states he clearly could see it was a Blu-Ray movie, but how did he see that? Was there a blue box on the table in wich they inserted the disc (maybe it had those huge letters 'Hey, spyboy, this is a Blu-Ray (playing on a Wii' over it). It could have been a DVD, even if it is a film. And that would make sense combined with their announcements for a DVD enabled Wii. It would be nice if you could download that DVD channel (wich would pay the license cost immediatly).

The PS3 is going to be succesfull. But right now, the Wii will be the most succesfull for this year and probably the next. Like I said before (comment on what Dave Perry said): once people do get used to HD, Nintendo will have to take a dive into 1080p or dround. If Nintendo can't pull it off by then, they will lose a lot to PS3 and 360. It's not determined yet, but for now Wii seems to win this generation. When generation 7,5 comes around, though, and when the PS3 and 360 still survive in the HD market while Wii doesn't, we'll see how the tides turn when people have to buy a new Wii. And the format war has little to do with it. If you want to know who's winning, count how many discs they ship. If people just buy a PS3 for the Blu-Ray player, you'll see that they don't add up the sales of games. If they buy it for gaming, they don't help the Blu-Ray sales. But they did buy a combo. So if you want to know who wins the format war, you look at who sold the most copies (and who has the best movies, off course). If you want to know who wins the Games war, you see how many copies of games for their system they sell. Because in the end, that's the thing they profit on. The company that makes the most profit, wins. And Nintendo is making the most profit (and right now I'm allowed to say: 'nonetheless').

You have really lost track here. Virtual Console are direct ports. New games are, well, essentially new games. Wich means they can better use the wagglebaton to be on Wii.

My local store sells about five Wii's a day and has a good stock. But they also sell about 5 PS3's a day, and have stock for that too. PS3 is selling and it's doing good enough. But yes, I'm having doubts about it's possible succes too. We'll just have to see whether they can keep their first spot or lose it, but at this rate, Nintendo will have outsold GameCube by January 1, 2008.

No matter what, this would be awesome. But an informant that walks in the wrong door Willy Wonka-style? That's just plain silly. It would be cool if it was true, but I doubt Nintendo would take the chance by letting an informant walk freely through their headquarters and I doubt they would be so stupid to quickly eject the disc and put in a Blu-Ray movie box while the informant was watching. If they left it in they would at least have the Blu-Ray player excuse... But it would be nice if Nintendo got a Wii Watch Channel out there. To run normal DVDs, you don't need extra hardware, not? Just a software application with the necessary codecs. That's what I think, though.

We did see Skies of Arcadia Legends, didn't we? That meant the franchise was still possible to shift some discs over the counter, so maybe they'll release a second legend. it would be awesome.