Hellfire Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 Burn Nintendo. Burn. I never thought I'd see Nintendo take a more cynical launch strategy than Sony, but by essentially cancelling GC Zelda to force sales of GC1.5 - stupid controls edition, they've done just that. Just go die far away.
Zechs Merquise Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 Just go die far away. What a stupid response. This is exactly what Nintendo has done. They've moved Zelda: TTP to Wii to boost sales - it's simple business sense. It's one of the world's biggest game franchises, it's the most anticipated insalment since Zelda: OOT so to move it onto the Wii was logical. I have no problem with that - what I have a problem with is being FORCED to play it with new controls. I wouldn't mind if it only came out on Wii, as long as I could choose how I controled it. If certain people on this forum are correct then everyone would choose to play it with the Wii-mote simply as it'd play soooo much better.
Hellfire Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 What a stupid response. This is exactly what Nintendo has done. They've moved Zelda: TTP to Wii to boost sales - it's simple business sense. It's one of the world's biggest game franchises, it's the most anticipated insalment since Zelda: OOT so to move it onto the Wii was logical. I have no problem with that - what I have a problem with is being FORCED to play it with new controls. I wouldn't mind if it only came out on Wii, as long as I could choose how I controled it. If certain people on this forum are correct then everyone would choose to play it with the Wii-mote simply as it'd play soooo much better. Of course they moved it to Wii as a business decision, it was ludicrously stupid releasing it on GC only now. LIke you said, it's logical. And who the hell is forcing you to play on Wii, just buy the GC version! Now if you agree with arnie360 stupid post, you have more problems than I thought.
froztyman Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 Of course they moved it to Wii as a business decision, it was ludicrously stupid releasing it on GC only now. LIke you said, it's logical. And who the hell is forcing you to play on Wii, just buy the GC version! Now if you agree with arnie360 stupid post, you have more problems than I thought. It could have been released for GC only but the delay made it close to this generations end. But if the Wii-conversion idea would´ent been picked up by Nintendos developers I´m sure they would have had the GC-version ready many months ago, probably early June.
Zechs Merquise Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 Arnie 360 is entitled to his opinion. You're the only one saying that people are idiots. If Arnie 360's opinion was put over in a slightly inflammatory way, so be it, but he hasn't stooped to telling people to 'go and die' or saying people have 'problems' because they want to play Zelda with traditional controls.
Hellfire Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 Arnie 360 is entitled to his opinion. You're the only one saying that people are idiots. If Arnie 360's opinion was put over in a slightly inflammatory way, so be it, but he hasn't stooped to telling people to 'go and die' or saying people have 'problems' because they want to play Zelda with traditional controls. I say you have problems because his post is indeed inflamatory and is made of stupid comments like GC 1.5 and burn Nintendo, etc. I'm tired of being PC and when I see someone making idiotic comments like that I say what I feel like saying. I don't insult people when they make informative and tasteful posts. Anyway, who cares, I'm tired of this discussion.
c0Zm1c Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 Putting the Gamecube version aside for a second, I don't understand why people are complaining about using the Wii-mote and Nunchuk to play Twilight Princess. Okay, so it was developed with the Gamecube in mind first. But isn't the Wii-mote and Nunchuk combo designed to be versatile, applicable to many, if not all, existing gameplay types? Look at Super Mario Galaxy. Even though its innovating, it's still a platformer - you'll still be making Mario run and jump about in much the same way he did in Sunshine and 64 before it (many of his old moves, such as the backflip, can be performed in Galaxy too). And this is a game designed for the Wii. So why the concern? I don't know. Maybe it's because we (or at least most of us) have not had a chance to use the controller(s) yet. Even before we get that chance we know what it does and we know how to use it, but we don't yet know exactly what it feels like to play a game with it. And even when we have all had a taste of this 'new way to play games' I think opinions will be as mixed among us as they are amongst the people who have actually played the Wii. *sigh* If Arnie 360's opinion was put over in a slightly inflammatory way, so be it, but he hasn't stooped to telling people to 'go and die' or saying people have 'problems' because they want to play Zelda with traditional controls. Give him time.
Kurtle Squad Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 I have no problem with that - what I have a problem with is being FORCED to play it with new controls. I wouldn't mind if it only came out on Wii, as long as I could choose how I controled it. If certain people on this forum are correct then everyone would choose to play it with the Wii-mote simply as it'd play soooo much better. *coughGamecube ver.cough*
shade Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 what are you moaning about Gamecube version is coming out a week after the Wii version, you have a choice people. Geez.
Nards Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Erm, a week? Nonono! I dunno where you live, but here its 1month later, grr :@ So pissed!!
froztyman Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 is 15th dec real? No other site has posted it...
ShadowV7 Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Who is going to get this version and the Wii version? Yarnton had said since September saying the GC version would be out during December.I'll probably get the GC version for Christmas. The 15th December date is real,he said it not so long ago.
Zechs Merquise Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 I'll pick up both versions, as I have all the Nintendo home console Zeldas. However I'm looking forward to the Gamecube version more!
Mr. Bananagrabber Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 yarton said within weeks of wii launch I had the idea in my head that it was out in Europe next year. Lord knows where I got it from In that case, i'll be getting it on the GC. It seems that all i'll miss out on is fishing.
arnie360 Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 ...and straight on till morning, right yamcha? if the Wii turns out to be good I'll definitely buy one, i'm not seeing anything so far that warrants a launch price £50 higher than the cube, and there has been much comment that the controls just don't feel right with the Wii games yet, together with the criticism that the control system just makes you tired. See this months gamestm for more. now i'm not just bashing ninty here, I have similar concerns that gears of war has been reported to also have controls that aren't quite there yet, but gears also has the fancy graphics to fall back on which being honest, the wii does not. everything about the wii relies on the control system to work or the venture is pointless. wii has been name checked as gamecube 1.5 by many commentators, do both machines not share the same dev kit? i'm not particularly bothered by the fact that zelda is now awii title, it's the way ninty said certain things would or would never happen and that's now all gone out of the window. that's why i don't rely on ninty for my main console gaming anymore, i got tired of the endless delays and PR bullpoo that seems to flow from ninty europe. im sure german gamers feel the same about microsoft at the moment now gears has been banned there.....
Zechs Merquise Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 See, an intelligent response. People may not agree with what Arnie 360 has to say, but at least he's not stooping to the childish levels that Hellfire is. I personally think he raises valid points, and people may well have a problem paying such a price tag for what is essentially old hardware.
Aussie Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 EB strikes exclusivity deal over GameCube Zelda
Fierce_LiNk Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 See, an intelligent response. People may not agree with what Arnie 360 has to say, but at least he's not stooping to the childish levels that Hellfire is. Burn Nintendo. Burn. Selective reading? Getting Zelda for the Wii rather than the 'Cube just seems to make more sense to me. A new system, with Zelda playable from launch. I don't think i could ask for more than that. The control scheme isn't bothering me, and, like many others, i'm actually looking forward to playing it this way. It's going to be different.
Hellfire Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 See, an intelligent response. People may not agree with what Arnie 360 has to say, but at least he's not stooping to the childish levels that Hellfire is. I personally think he raises valid points, and people may well have a problem paying such a price tag for what is essentially old hardware. Now, that's a normal post and even though I disagree I have no problem because he didn't post like 2 year old for now. If you wanna turn this into a flame war, I'm afraid you're going to have to do it yourself.
Anton Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 EB strikes exclusivity deal over GameCube Zelda Poor Aussies...hope Nintendo doesn't put on a show like that in Europe (knowing NoE it will be even worse...)
Zechs Merquise Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Knowing our luck Nintendo will totally shaft Europe and we won;t even get a single copy!
Hellfire Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Knowing our luck Nintendo will totally shaft Europe and we won;t even get a single copy! That's why I didn't cancel my Canadian pre-order.
c0Zm1c Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 I have similar concerns that gears of war has been reported to also have controls that aren't quite there yet, but gears also has the fancy graphics to fall back on which being honest, the wii does not. I think the graphics will help Gears of War sell, regardless of the quality of any other aspect - after all, it must be the graphics that's helping shift most 360 crap off the shop shelves. The idea of visual splendour making up for poor controls is definitely not a good one though, and certainly wouldn't save the game for me or for many other gamers I don't doubt. The gameplay footage I've seen of GoW suggests the controls are fine though - well, as fine as can be expected - and possibly even a new touchstone for shooters on consoles still dragging their heels with last-gen controllers. That's why I didn't cancel my Canadian pre-order. That's a point. With the Gamecube being the least troublesome last-gen console for import titles (Freeloader), it might be a good solution for those who can't secure a copy of the European version and are running scared from the Wii's spooky new controllers.
arnie360 Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 remember when I said no TP on the cube was the most cynical thing I'd seen in gaming this year? scratch that, Lumines LIVE's pricing structure tops that easily. seems all gamers everywhere are getting a bum deal at the moment.
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