Happenstance Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 My worry is that once again McClaren will hail this as a great achievement and proof that Gerrard and Lampard can play together. But if it works against the smaller teams and not the bigger ones then it obviously just doesnt work. He needs to be brave enough to drop Lampard, let Gerrard go forward and actually use a proper defensive midfielder instead of hindering our best attacking midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant-Shimmin Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Did Redknapp let the cat out of the bag regaurding Owen? I'm sure Jamie Redknapp was about to say that Owen is coming back before stopping and saying something else. I asked a mate if they felt the same, and he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramar Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Alan Smith said the same about Leeds, Gerrard said in '01 that he wanted to stay at Liverpool forever, granted he is staying but look how close he was to leaving? Alan Smith is a scumbag. How many times do you see him kiss that Man Utd badge after claiming he was Leeds through and through. Utter testicle, and rather mediocre as a striker. Henry isn't like that, like Platty has posted, the man loves Arsenal, he stayed last year when it was on the cards, he'll stay this year (I hope :P). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harribo Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Blades' Parliament plea SHEFFIELD United want fans to back their Campaign for Fairness by travelling to the Houses of Parliament next Wednesday. And to help them demonstrate their support, the club will provide free return coach travel for anyone prepared to help them in their quest to win reinstatement to the Premier League. Drawing a huge crowd to Westminster would be massive coup in United's bid to ensure their plight remains at the forefront of the sporting public's consciousness. The trip is due to be confirmed this afternoon and if, as expected, it goes ahead a big turnout would add even more weight to United's efforts. Plc chairman Kevin McCabe said: "We want to get as many people down there as we possibly can. "A sea of red and white outside Parliament would not only look superb but, more importantly, it would help to illustrate the depth of feeling there is among United fans and beyond about this matter. "So, to help people do that, we will put on as many coaches as necessary to make sure that everyone who wants to can get there. "I really can't stress how important this is." United hope to confirm details of the trip as soon as possible to enable interested parties to make arrangements. Last Updated: 06 June 2007 What strikes me as odd is how all you premiership followers don't actually seem to care that Sheffield United want a 21 team premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 meh if you can't win enough points throughout a 38 game season then you don't deserve to use politics to try and stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conzer16 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Isn't next wednesday the day before next seasons fixtures are to be published? I haven't been followong Sheff. Utd's trils and tribulations - my own club has had enough to last a liftime in these past 6 years......someone like to gimme a rundown of what exactly they're trying to do and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramar Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 What strikes me as odd is how all you premiership followers don't actually seem to care that Sheffield United want a 21 team premiership. Down they go, just because they are whinging little tarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harribo Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Isn't next wednesday the day before next seasons fixtures are to be published? I haven't been followong Sheff. Utd's trils and tribulations - my own club has had enough to last a liftime in these past 6 years......someone like to gimme a rundown of what exactly they're trying to do and why? Basically they think that West Ham should be punished again or they should be allowed to stay up. What's funny is the mardy bastards think they have a chance and that the nation is behind them. Although I think a lot of their fans are finding it embarrassing. They also didn't seem to give a fuck when they were 10 points clear of relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyletherobot Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 it's completely stupid, and it's getting a little annoying. sheff utd are going to have a terrible season now because of all the focus on this crap, whether that be in the premiership or championship. stop crying blades, and let your fans accept that you are going to be in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-zim Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 What a bunch of cocks. They should get relegated again this season. i would love that. But now that warnock has left i don't mind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Fat Fred's sold his shares to Fat Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-zim Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Was only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Basically they think that West Ham should be punished again or they should be allowed to stay up. What's funny is the mardy bastards think they have a chance and that the nation is behind them. Although I think a lot of their fans are finding it embarrassing. They also didn't seem to give a fuck when they were 10 points clear of relegation. I live in Sheffield and my dad is a Sheff Utd fan and I can tell you none of the fans I've spoken to are embarassed by it at all they all feel cheated by it. Of course they didn't care when they were 10 points clear of relegation, it didn't affect them (much the same way for example my team Pompey aren't moaning about it) and the verdict hadn't even been decided then. The fact remains they should have had points deducted, the fine they got was a record fine but it is still a splash in the pond, compared to the riches they will make from TV money. They broke the rules, I mean a fine like that is not going to discourage clubs from doing it if they think they can get away with it. The issue Sheff Utd have with it all, is Tevez continuing to play. Techically speaking West Ham shouldn't have been able to rip up his third party contract to make him a West Ham player as the transfer window was closed... it's odd how it took weeks for Mascherano to get all his details checked and sorted and all the relevant documents collated but it took just a few hours for Tevez They have been told by the league that they have a case and it will be heard. the whole thing stinks to be honest, ethicly they have broken the rules and have decieved the Premiership by knowingly signing players under third party deals, they should be punished a lot more than just a fine...clubs have been deducted points for a lot less in recent past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-zim Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 So tell me if they hadn't "broken the rules" and signed them "legally" would that have meant utd would have got enough points to stay up? NO. So at the end of the day they weren't good enough to stay up. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platty Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 So tell me if they hadn't "broken the rules" and signed them "legally" would that have meant utd would have got enough points to stay up? NO. So at the end of the day they weren't good enough to stay up. End of story. Exactly. : peace: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 So tell me if they hadn't "broken the rules" and signed them "legally" would that have meant utd would have got enough points to stay up? NO. So at the end of the day they weren't good enough to stay up. End of story. Thats not the point though...they did break the rules...you can't say what if they didn't, cos then that gets into a whole different train of what ifs...West Ham would never have signed him and would have been however many points worse off cos of how well he did in the run in... I'm not saying I think they will win the case, just I can see why anyone would feel aggrieved about it and how they could have a case, I bet if it was your team you would be angry you certainly wouldn't be saying "ah well we weren't good enough" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-zim Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 And they have been punished. There are alot worse miscarriages of justice out there. Murderers etc. I just think they are crying over spilt milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 And they have been punished. There are alot worse miscarriages of justice out there. Murderers etc. I just think they are crying over spilt milk. Well mentioning murderers is taking it a bit out of context I'd say, but if you are going to say that, then there are always appeals against sentences etc.. so surely sheff utd are allowed that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harribo Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 The rule they broke was too minor to warrant a points deduction though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-zim Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Well mentioning murderers is taking it a bit out of context I'd say, but if you are going to say that, then there are always appeals against sentences etc.. so surely sheff utd are allowed that right? what i am saying is there are murderes that get off lightly these days, so crying about west ham seems a little insignificant. and no as it wasnt sheffield united that got punished it was west ham so they can appeal not SUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 The rule they broke was too minor to warrant a points deduction though. they decieved the Premier League, thats what they were found guilty of knowingly breaking the rules...I don't see how thats minor they deliberatly withheld information about a transfer as they knew they were breaking the rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babooo Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 can't believe Ribery went to Bayern Munich....I wanted him at the Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 can't believe Ribery went to Bayern Munich....I wanted him at the Arsenal. 17 million, wonder if the money will go straight from uniteds account into Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 17 million, wonder if the money will go straight from uniteds account into Marseille I think Bayern have got the better deal there anyway Ribery > Hargreaves imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 While I agree Sheff's whining is annoying, West Ham definitely should have been docked points, that fine was a joke considering the TV money you get for staying in the prem, which is what their cheating got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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