Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth

[Grazza]

I don't think we have a dedicated thread for this - sure to be one of the last great releases on the 3DS.  It's the 5th, and quite possibly final, entry in the series.  From playing previous entries, the premise is that there are/were seven Yggdrasil trees/labyrinths, but from playing the remakes I got the feeling they were winding it down into five games.

 

 

 

 

It's due out Q3 2017 in the US, with hopefully a European release to follow.  Can't wait.

[Ike]

5 hours ago, Grazza said:

I don't think we have a dedicated thread for this - sure to be one of the last great releases on the 3DS.  It's the 5th, and quite possibly final, entry in the series.  From playing previous entries, the premise is that there are/were seven Yggdrasil trees/labyrinths, but from playing the remakes I got the feeling they were winding it down into five games.

It's due out Q3 2017 in the US, with hopefully a European release to follow.  Can't wait.

It's already been confirmed, it's being published by Deep Silver.

https://www.twitter.com/deepsilver/status/872838149877235714

I think it's due Q1 2018.

[Hero-of-Time]

3rd November release date confirmed. Way sooner that I expected.

They also released a trailer for the Fencer class.

Edit: Hmmmm...maybe not.

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Update: Deep Silver's European press release says "The release date in Europe will be announced at a later time." but also lists a 3 November date later in the mail. So, take that date as tentative for now.

 

Edited August 10, 2017 by Hero-of-Time

[Grazza]

Anyone else imagining their starting team?  I'm that desperate. At the moment I have a Dragoon in my front line and a Warlock in the rear.

 

I've also just seen that EO IV (excellent) and Millennium Girl (less so, but still worth the money) are only £8.99 on the eShop, so seriously considering getting them digitally to scratch the itch.

Edited August 10, 2017 by Grazza

[Grazza]

The Masurao looks like the typical high attack/low defence class.

 

 

Well, OK, there's a spare slot in my team and the moment, but we'll see what happens!

 

Current team:

Fencer / Dragoon / Masurao

Warlock

[Grazza]

More classes.  Botanist is the typical potion-using character (perhaps it will be better as a sub-class?) and Pugilist is a sort of martial artist.

 

 

 

[MindFreak]

Harbingers

 

 

I've lost count of all these classes. XD

[Grazza]

I’ve been playing the demo for Etrian Odyssey V (which is brilliant, like all EO demos) and wanted to gather some thoughts on it.  I’ve maxed-out my team to level-10, obtained all the drops and defeated all the FOEs, so am getting a good feel for it now.

 

Etrian Odyssey V really mixes things up by giving you 10 classes from the beginning, and also introducing the idea of races.  The class skills seem to have been streamlined – I get the feeling there will be less wastage of skill points, and at a casual glance, the classes seem to be far, far more balanced.  Races are tied to what you can do in the field (ie. mining) and which Union skills you can use (similar to the group skills in III and IV), so it's good to have all of them in your team (the game steers you towards 2x Earthlain, 1x Celestrian, 1x Therian and 1x Brouni).

 

The Earthlain (human) have high HP and Vitality, but low Intelligence, TP and Wisdom.  Good for fighting; useless at magic.  They have a race-based Union debuff for binds and ailments:

 

• Fencer – Similar to the Royal from EOIII.  Can “chase” a Warlock’s elemental spells, but doesn’t seem very powerful overall.  No replacement for a Landsknecht.
• Verdict: Doesn’t seem very useful at the moment
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• Dragoon – This game’s version of the Protector.  The Dragoon doesn’t have as many dedicated protective abilities as his/her predecessors, such as Fire/Ice/Volt Wall, or any offensive shield skill such as Smite.  Whilst they are undoubtedly useful, they may not be as essential this time.
• Verdict: May be useful later on
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• Pugilist – Visually similar to the Gladiator from EOIII.  Oddly, the Pugilist is the only class that can inflict all three types of bind.  It’s unusual to have that in a “strong” character.  The Pugilist is the closest thing to a Landsknecht, and so I wouldn’t be without one.
• Verdict: Essential
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• Harbinger – The Dark Hunter of the bunch.  Uses something called Miasma Armor, is pretty tough and can inflict a number of status effects.  I was surprised at how much I liked this class.
• Verdict: Very good

 

The Celestrian race has high TP and Intelligence, but low Vitality.  In other words, they are the mages and summoners.  Celestrians have an inherent Union skill that binds enemies:

 

• Warlock – This game’s Alchemist or Zodiac.  Has all the elemental attacks you’d expect and need for certain conditional drops.  I can’t imagine going through and Etrian Odyssey game without one.
• Verdict: Essential
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• Necromancer – Summons wraiths for various buffs, debuffs and status ailments.  Really not my cup of tea, and no competition for the Warlock, but I suppose EO experts may find a great way to combine them with another class.
• Verdict: Put them on the bench for now

 

Therians are rabbit-like humanoids.  They excel in Agility and Strength, but have quite low Vitality.  One of their Union skills can stun, which considering how fast they are, may well be useful.  Both Therian classes are good, and which one you pick really depends on which line you have a space on:

 

• Rover – This game’s bow-wielding Survivalist.  Summons either a hawk or hound for arm/leg binding or a defence debuff.  A nice class, but has competition from the Masurao.
• Verdict: Might use later.
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• Masurao – The Samurais of Etrian Odyssey V.  With solid attacks and a defence debuff, this one has a place on my front line.
• Verdict: Good

 

Finally, the gentle Brouni are the medics and healers:

 

• Shaman – Specialises in buffing.  Does everything you’d expect a Bard to.
• Verdict: Maybe more of a sub-class (if they’re in this game)
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• Botanist – This game’s Medic.  Although the description says he/she uses potions, they’re really just healing spells.
• Verdict: Essential

 

To make matters more complicated, you can mix races and classes.  For instance, if you like the Pugilist’s skills, you could have a Therian one who would theoretically be stronger (but with lower defence) than an Earthlain Pugilist.

 

For what it’s worth, this is the team that really worked for me during the demo:

 

Pugilist / Harbinger / Masurao

Warlock / Botanist

 

I really enjoyed the Etrian Odyssey V demo and can’t wait to get stuck into the full game.

Edited September 26, 2017 by Grazza

[MindFreak]

This is out on October 17th in Germany and thus probably in the entire Europe. However, the physical version is out on November 5th. This is not official outside Germany but still probably true for other countries.

[Grazza]

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1 hour ago, MindFreak said:

This is out on October 17th in Germany and thus probably in the entire Europe. However, the physical version is out on November 5th. This is not official outside Germany but still probably true for other countries.

 

Ah, that's good, although I think I'll still wait for physical.

 

What did you think of the demo?  What did your team end up looking like?

[MindFreak]

14 hours ago, Grazza said:

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Ah, that's good, although I think I'll still wait for physical.

 

What did you think of the demo?  What did your team end up looking like?

Actually, I haven't played the demo or the past couple of games in the series. While I really enjoyed the second game, I never got to finish it due to having trouble with some bee boss, and then I didn't prioritize the following games due to their similarity with the second one and the sheer size of the games. But what I played of the game was really good.

[Grazza]

2 hours ago, MindFreak said:

Actually, I haven't played the demo or the past couple of games in the series. While I really enjoyed the second game, I never got to finish it due to having trouble with some bee boss, and then I didn't prioritize the following games due to their similarity with the second one and the sheer size of the games. But what I played of the game was really good.

 

The funny thing about the three original games on DS is that they are rock hard, but you can get through them using certain moves and team combinations.  I don't like the Untold remakes as much because they lessen the effectiveness of certain moves, and although easier to play (in terms of getting to the end credits), are more frustrating in the post-game.

 

Etrian Odyssey IV, however, was just great all round, so I'm hoping this is similar.

[MindFreak]

And today is the day for Shamans:

 

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hRx17i89SXc

[Ike]

Those races sound very PSO-ish.

The game is £27.99 on Amazon and you get £2 discount if you have Prime.

[Ike]

Digital version is available now: http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-3DS/Etrian-Odyssey-V-Beyond-the-Myth-1275926.html

[Grazza]

My copy arrived today, with a nice little art book actually in the game case.  Anyone else got this digitally or physically?

[Ike]

I should have got mine, but Amazon has sent me a copy of Assassin's Creed Origins for PS4 instead.

[Glen-i]

2 hours ago, Ike said:

I should have got mine, but Amazon has sent me a copy of Assassin's Creed Origins for PS4 instead.

OK, that's kinda funny.

Same thing though, right?

[Grazza]

I played it loads yesterday and reached 7F.

 

The game is utterly brilliant, with very smooth progress so far.  Cooking feels a bit unnecessary (my food inventory becomes full before I ever use anything), but perhaps it feels more relevant later.  I keep thinking I might change my Masurao for a Rover, but the team's working well so far.

 

At the moment I slightly prefer it to IV, but the quality's up there either way.

[Grazza]

I've got to 11F and, honestly, this is even better than I expected.  It's as playable as IV, but streamlined as in "get up the Yggdrasil tree" like the earlier games (there's no overworld, which I think is a good thing in this case).

 

As for classes, they've tinkered a bit and I'm impressed.  The sub-class system from III and IV has been replaced with something that is actually more interesting.  I don't want to say too much. but it adds a lot of strategy.

[Grazza]

Well, I'm finished with Etrian Odyssey V, and I reckon it's the best so far.

 

I beat the post-game boss in 5 turns!  And I suspect it could be done in 3 turns with a fully-retired team, but I don't really want to grind that up just to see.  Still, a great game indeed.

[Grazza]

I much enjoyed playing Etrian Odyssey V, but for personal reasons, the review was delayed.  I've finished it now, and here it is:

 

Etrian Odyssey V:
Beyond the Myth

 

Thanks, as ever, to the stalwart @S.C.G for the graphic.