ReZourceman Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Please can we have a vote count up in this joint?
Sméagol Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 YES. I was hoping not having to spell it out, but Magnus ended up at DuD because of me. I’m not going to specify how. But now that’s clear, hopefully Magnus is clear (or his info is trusted at least), so we can move on.
The Peeps Posted October 31, 2013 Author Posted October 31, 2013 Votes: Dedede (5): Yvonne, ReZourceman, Esequiel, Cube, Magnus Peterson Magnus Peterson (4): Sheikah, DuD, Jimbob, Dedede DuD (1): Sméagol Majority is 7
Sheikah Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 YES. I was hoping not having to spell it out, but Magnus ended up at DuD because of me. I’m not going to specify how. But now that’s clear, hopefully Magnus is clear (or his info is trusted at least), so we can move on. Oh you are bloody kidding. You could have said this like 2 days ago when this shit hit the fan. So Magnus did go to esequiel, but he could still be totally making up whatever he did or found out.
Sméagol Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Oh you are bloody kidding. You could have said this like 2 days ago when this shit hit the fan. So Magnus did go to esequiel, but he could still be totally making up whatever he did or found out. Not more than DuD could. Less even, unless you’re totally disregarding what I am saying. And sorry for being too subtle, but I did step in when “this shit hit the fan”.
Sheikah Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 So you're a target switcher I'm guessing. So either you or Dedede is probably Mafia. Tell me why you would not have come out with this ages ago to damn Dedede as a redirector and target switched on same team is pretty much never going to happen.
DuD Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I'm not going to do your work for you, so go to yesterday and you'll find... 1) Me repeatedly question Cube to ensure his success on N1. and 2) Me question if anyone had problems reaching Cube N1. I'm obviously trying to figure something out. From the answers obtained, if you go back to earlier today when Sheikah suggested Diageo was the unknown roleblocker, I was able to confirm he wasn't. Basically I am blatantly not lying. So I'll ask again Smeagol.. are you suggesting this is an elaborate set-up I started a day before any of this info came to light, a day before Magnus claimed tracker? OR My info is legit?
Sméagol Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 So you're a target switcher I'm guessing. So either you or Dedede is probably Mafia. Tell me why you would not have come out with this ages ago to damn Dedede as a redirector and target switched on same team is pretty much never going to happen. Some posts back I changed my inclination to vote for Yvonne to Deded just because of that, and I already mentioned in that post that I didn’t think of it immediately because I have been a town redirector before. Furthermore, Dedede and I don’t do things the same way.
Yvonne Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 so in conclusion, we should really fucking kill Jon
Sheikah Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Some posts back I changed my inclination to vote for Yvonne to Deded just because of that, and I already mentioned in that post that I didn’t think of it immediately because I have been a town redirector before. Furthermore, Dedede and I don’t do things the same way. So a lynch you could have made happen never happened because you didn't reveal you had a very similar role. Not looking brill now for you I'll admit.
Sméagol Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I'm not going to do your work for you, so go to yesterday and you'll find... 1) Me repeatedly question Cube to ensure his success on N1. and 2) Me question if anyone had problems reaching Cube N1. I'm obviously trying to figure something out. From the answers obtained, if you go back to earlier today when Sheikah suggested Diageo was the unknown roleblocker, I was able to confirm he wasn't. Basically I am blatantly not lying. So I'll ask again Smeagol.. are you suggesting this is an elaborate set-up I started a day before any of this info came to light, a day before Magnus claimed tracker? OR My info is legit? It could be legit, but I find Magnus’ info even more legit. Look at it objectively, how big are the chances that there are 2 trackers? It’s possible, but not likely. Maybe in this game it is, I dunno. But between the 2 of you, I find you more suspicious.
DuD Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Protector don't bother with me tonight if Magnus isn't lynched, if I'm killed it will out him anyway. Also @ReZourceman can you confirm whether what you thought of me is indeed what I've revealed?
Sheikah Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 so in conclusion, we should really fucking kill Jon No. Mafia are more likely to use a redirector than kill. Smeagol was used. Mafia are more likely to have a target switch (I think) since it is more sneaky. The target doesn't know who they reach.
DuD Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I find you most suspicious, but hey I don't care what you think because your Mafia
Mr-Paul Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 You were WAAAY too subtle, Sméagol! Hmm, so this is the (claimed) story of the night. Magnus went for Sméagol, who swapped himself with DuD. Magnus found someone targeted Esequiel. DuD says he knows of a role blocker. He says he knows this as he claims to have targeted Esequiel, and tracked him to Yvonne, and deduced Esequiel was the role blocker as Yvonne said he was blocked. Dedede, who claims to be a standard redirector, was also blocked. We know that DuD probably didn't do anything bad to Esequiel, as Yvonne was blocked. Which makes it believable that he's a tracker, or Esequiel's team mate. I'm still not sure if i'd go for a Magnus lynch. I'd prefer to go for Sméagol, or Dedede (who if we remember did admit to targeting the dead person N1, then blocked N2), to clear a redirector out of the game (hopefully a mafia one), or Esequiel, who is my strongest mafia suspect.
ReZourceman Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 So Magnus did go to esequiel, but he could still be totally making up whatever he did or found out. Magnus has been telling the truth. Anyway, death to redirectors! Protector don't bother with me tonight if Magnus isn't lynched, if I'm killed it will out him anyway. Also @ReZourceman can you confirm whether what you thought of me is indeed what I've revealed? The post you did before this one I don't even understand to be honest. But I still know that you have been truthful thus far, and so I trust you too.
Sheikah Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 You were WAAAY too subtle, Sméagol! Hmm, so this is the (claimed) story of the night. Magnus went for Sméagol, who swapped himself with DuD. Magnus found someone targeted Esequiel. DuD says he knows of a role blocker. He says he knows this as he claims to have targeted Esequiel, and tracked him to Yvonne, and deduced Esequiel was the role blocker as Yvonne said he was blocked. Dedede, who claims to be a standard redirector, was also blocked. We know that DuD probably didn't do anything bad to Esequiel, as Yvonne was blocked. Which makes it believable that he's a tracker, or Esequiel's team mate. I'm still not sure if i'd go for a Magnus lynch. I'd prefer to go for Sméagol, or Dedede (who if we remember did admit to targeting the dead person N1, then blocked N2), to clear a redirector out of the game (hopefully a mafia one), or Esequiel, who is my strongest mafia suspect. Why would they use a redirector to kill 2 nights in a row. Seems a bit of a waste. Magnus has been telling the truth. Anyway, death to redirectors! The post you did before this one I don't even understand to be honest. But I still know that you have been truthful thus far, and so I trust you too. He told the truth about reaching a target. Not necessarily about what he did. Last game the Mafia switched targets then sent their own players to a target knowing they would reach the other switched player.
Sméagol Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 So a lynch you could have made happen never happened because you didn't reveal you had a very similar role. Not looking brill now for you I'll admit. It could still happen, and you’re standing more in the way of it than I am. I was voting for Dedede after all. And now I have revealed it, after so many posts where you were not connecting the dots. Anyway, I don’t switch a thing.
Mr-Paul Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 The thing is, Sheikah, we don't know that Dedede actually is a redirector. However, If Sméagol is mafia, Magnus is mafia. Otherwise why would Sméagol defend him to stop him being lynched? Also, if Sméagol is mafia, it is unlikely Magnus actually targeted Sméagol and went to DuD - the only reason they're saying he knows someone targeted Esequiel was because they knew that DuD had targeted Esequiel as he had been saying he knew of a role blocker. Sméagol/Dedede/Esequiel + one other = mafia?
ReZourceman Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 He told the truth about reaching a target. Not necessarily about what he did. He told the truth about what he did too.
Sheikah Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 The thing is, Sheikah, we don't know that Dedede actually is a redirector. However, If Sméagol is mafia, Magnus is mafia. Otherwise why would Sméagol defend him to stop him being lynched? Also, if Sméagol is mafia, it is unlikely Magnus actually targeted Sméagol and went to DuD - the only reason they're saying he knows someone targeted Esequiel was because they knew that DuD had targeted Esequiel as he had been saying he knew of a role blocker. Sméagol/Dedede/Esequiel + one other = mafia? Why would a Mafioso freelt admit to being a redirector if he isn't one? Can you think of a reason for that? I can't. Redirectors are scummy, generally. Not a good thing to pretend to be.
DuD Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 ReZ, I'll put quotes up later when I'm not on my phone to explain it.. but basically either the town has 2 trackers or Magnus is mafia and with the bullshit vote for Dedede against him, I'm certain its the latter. Also smeagol I had nothing to gain but outing the truth by outing myself. I was not pursued into it. I willingly gave info to help the town. Magnus is mafia and your attempts to get your team mate out of a hole are shocking. @Diageo either confirm or deny my statement. if you don't respond ill just assume your mafia.
Sméagol Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Why lump me together with them? I was voting for Dedede before I felt the need to rectify Magnus’s situation.
Mr-Paul Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Oh, and if those few I posted above are mafia, I'd probably guess at Moogle being mafia too. If they're not, I've got other clusters of people grouped in my head in terms of target collaboration/info/posting attitudes.
ReZourceman Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 ReZ, I'll put quotes up later when I'm not on my phone to explain it.. but basically either the town has 2 trackers or Magnus is mafia and with the bullshit vote for Dedede against him, I'm certain its the latter. Why are you so certain though? This all seems to be conjecture.
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