Homeland

[Mokong]

Just watcehd ep 5

 

Gotta say I actually liked the Peter guy in this ep, thought he did well to get Brody to dig himself a big big hole before showing him they found the video

 

Also Danes was bloody awesome as usual when she was interegating Brody. Loved how she slowly managed to break him down and all teh whille the emotion and expressions on her face were brilliant. This role was just made for her.

 

Although somewhat disappointed on the ending of teh ep with how they are giving Brody a chance to redeem himself....BULLSHIT. I want to see him in chains for teh rest of his miserable life.

 

But at least he gave up Roya as a Nazir agent.

 

Not at all how I expected things to go but be interesting to see how it develops from here. Will Brody stay on teh CIA's side or will he still go back to Nazir?

 

And the silly side story with the girl and teh VP's son got a tiny bit more interesting with that little car chase and accident. But I still don't see the point in it yet?

Also does anyone else get the feeling they have no idea what to do with Brodys son this season?

 

[Murr]

Well, I'm not sure I like the direction of having Brody work secretly for the CIA, it kinda takes away the "is he / isn't he / will he / won't he" factor of the series.

 

Will he just go rogue on the CIA now and still go with Nazir's plan, or will he actually try and stay legit with the CIA.

 

Also the VP's son and the car incident, wasn't it Nazir's informant that he knocked down (the women who'd been interviewing Brody as a press person, but actually is a Nazir worker)

 

When you see the person on the ground, it was too brief for me to see, but looked like a women.

 

 

 

I liked the good cop, bad cop interrogation of Brody. Carrie doing some good work despite being on a CIA payroll anymore, can only imagine she'll end up back there somehow.

 

 

So yeah, hoping that this show doesn't turn into a hunting Nazir series now, but it looks likely it will be.

 

[Mokong]

Haha..feels so weird being an ep ahead of yeah Murr

 

anyway....you best not open this...

 

Well DAMN,

 

 

pretty good ep the twist in the middle was a hell of a shocker, Quinn & Galvez? Are they both dead? Quinn we saw get him after the hezbola guys left but might have only managed to call it in? Galvez we only saw go down but nothing after to show one way or the other.

 

Mike is starting to annoy me with his own investigation. How does he go from "one bullet missing" to "Brody must have done it"....granted he is right but that reasoning doesn't work.... does he not remember the Deer Brody shot? That could be the missing bullet....there was nothing to say he replaced that one bullet or not after shooting the deer?

 

Wondering how long Brody will keep playing double agent...I'm fully expecting him to back Nazirs side....mainly cause I want to see the truth about him come out and see him disgraced...but I'm getting a funny feeling he'll end up dying at the end of the season but having helped the CIA catch/kill Nazir they'll cover for him and he'll be honored as a fallen hero.

Can't see him surviving and being made to quit politics and move out of state.... there's no way he could explian that to his family without saying why...surely?

 

The side story with the daughter and VP's son is still getting on my nerves too....I just don't see what the point of it is...at least with the Mike side story it relates to the bigger picture

 

[pratty]

Well, I'm not sure I like the direction of having Brody work secretly for the CIA, it kinda takes away the "is he / isn't he / will he / won't he" factor of the series.

 

Will he just go rogue on the CIA now and still go with Nazir's plan, or will he actually try and stay legit with the CIA.

 

Aren't you contradicting yourself there mate?

 

It could very well be that Brody will just make the best out of a bad situation by pretending to help the CIA, he could still leak legit CIA info to Nasir if he's still loyal to him.

 

Or maybe he's still conflicted, maybe he'll play both sides until he decides where his loyalties ultimately lie.

 

 

Also the VP's son and the car incident, wasn't it Nazir's informant that he knocked down (the women who'd been interviewing Brody as a press person, but actually is a Nazir worker)

 

When you see the person on the ground, it was too brief for me to see, but looked like a women.

 

Definitely a woman but I didn't pay much attention to her, pretty sure she was African-American rather than Middle Easten though.

 

 

Just watcehd ep 5

 

 

I'm glad they don't have anything for his son, I think the daughter's storyline is plenty, though I'm not sure where that's going either. I guess it's just to mirror Brody's relationship with the VP, and maybe one will effect the other at some point.

 

While exposing Brody now might have been premature, I think the series is still very interesting. Carrie and Brody seemed very close again, there could be very conflicting emotions, are they playing each other? Or are there genuine feelings? Or a bit of both?

 

Gotta say I actually liked the Peter guy in this ep, thought he did well to get Brody to dig himself a big big hole before showing him they found the video

 

Also Danes was bloody awesome as usual when she was interegating Brody. Loved how she slowly managed to break him down and all teh whille the emotion and expressions on her face were brilliant. This role was just made for her.

 

Although somewhat disappointed on the ending of teh ep with how they are giving Brody a chance to redeem himself....BULLSHIT. I want to see him in chains for teh rest of his miserable life.

 

But at least he gave up Roya as a Nazir agent.

 

Not at all how I expected things to go but be interesting to see how it develops from here. Will Brody stay on teh CIA's side or will he still go back to Nazir?

 

And the silly side story with the girl and teh VP's son got a tiny bit more interesting with that little car chase and accident. But I still don't see the point in it yet?

Also does anyone else get the feeling they have no idea what to do with Brodys son this season?

Edited November 5, 2012 by pratty
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[Murr]

Aren't you contradicting yourself there mate?

 

It could very well be that Brody will just make the best out of a bad situation by pretending to help the CIA, he could still leak legit CIA info to Nasir if he's still loyal to him.

 

Or maybe he's still conflicted, maybe he'll play both sides until he decides where his loyalties ultimately lie.

 

Now i've re-read my post yeah I was a bit :p

[Mokong]

Just watched ep 7....

 

 

 

Bit of a slowdown ep this felt like. Saul got played for a fool by Aileen which was stretched for the whole ep. As soon as he took out the Wine bottle I knew she was gonna try kill herself somehow.... though she ended up using the reading glasses instead I was still kinda right

 

Don't know what the point of it all was other than for Saul to go "I got too emotional, I shouldn't have done that" still seems like a very small thing to waste the whole ep on.

 

Least the side story with the Dana and Finn is starting to make some sense as it is now effecting the main story.

Seemed very VERY stupid of David to send Carrie to meet Brody at the police station though. Given he knew Dana was with him... she's obviously gonna tell her mother Carrie was there and stopped Brody from going in, his wife will have a shit freak, prolly go for divorce etc, and if the CIA really want to keep Brody close to the VP they'd want to keep his wife happy too cause I'd imagine if Brody wasn't coming from a preceived "perfect family" anymore he'd be out of the running to be Waldens running mate.

 

Good though to hear that Galvez isn't dead....yet... hoping he pulls through.

 

 

We're into the 2nd half of the season now so things should start to pick up some steam from now on

 

EDIT:

 

Oh only just spotted that the show has been renewed for a season 3 too

Edited November 12, 2012 by Mokong

[Mokong]

Just seen ep 8

 

 

Righty looks like things are starting to pick back up.

 

I actually can't get a read on Carrie at all anymore.... is she just playing Brody and doing what she has to in order to get him to work with them or is she losing her shit again?

 

The end was tense as hell, when Carrie jumped out of the van I thought similar to when she jumped out of the car in Beruit when they were meant to be escaping that she was about to screw everything up again, that she was still off her rocker. But her instincts again seemed right.

 

Very interesting that Nazir is in the US now (how the hell he get in? ) Must mean he has something really big planned if he felt the need to be there in person. You'd think the CIA would have had some sort of satalite they could have used to track that chopper

 

Good to see that "hit and run" side story seems to be over with now too, with there being only 4 eps left this season I want the pace to continuily pick up with each ep and no more time wasted on side stories.

 

[are1981]

I love this show. I started watching a week after episode 1 aired last year.

 

This is to me the best non-comedy show since Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles!

Edited November 20, 2012 by are1981

[Oxigen_Waste]

So I finally started watching this today... so basically it's an Americanized, watered down, glossed over and much less poignant and visceral remake of Hatufim?? For fuck's sake, USA... I thought this was original content, so you can imagine my disappointment! Why exactly do people watch this instead of Hatufim?, I guess it could've been much worse as it was actually pretty decent, but seeing as it's essentially a neutered version of Hatufim I really don't understand why this show is getting so much love when people can just see the much superior original. oO

[Murr]

Just watched ep 7....

 

 

 

Bit of a slowdown ep this felt like. Saul got played for a fool by Aileen which was stretched for the whole ep. As soon as he took out the Wine bottle I knew she was gonna try kill herself somehow.... though she ended up using the reading glasses instead I was still kinda right

 

Don't know what the point of it all was other than for Saul to go "I got too emotional, I shouldn't have done that" still seems like a very small thing to waste the whole ep on.

 

Least the side story with the Dana and Finn is starting to make some sense as it is now effecting the main story.

Seemed very VERY stupid of David to send Carrie to meet Brody at the police station though. Given he knew Dana was with him... she's obviously gonna tell her mother Carrie was there and stopped Brody from going in, his wife will have a shit freak, prolly go for divorce etc, and if the CIA really want to keep Brody close to the VP they'd want to keep his wife happy too cause I'd imagine if Brody wasn't coming from a preceived "perfect family" anymore he'd be out of the running to be Waldens running mate.

 

Good though to hear that Galvez isn't dead....yet... hoping he pulls through.

 

 

We're into the 2nd half of the season now so things should start to pick up some steam from now on

 

EDIT:

 

Oh only just spotted that the show has been renewed for a season 3 too

 

 

Still a week behind you dude :p But -

 

What a total clusterfuck of a decision to send Carrie to the police station to stop Brody. David dropped the ball on that one. As you've mentioned Dana's gunna run to her mum and say that Brody is meeting up with Carrie which is bad news all round for their relationship.

 

Dana says - "Mum.. Carrie was at the police station, Dad didnt report the hit and run!"

 

her mum will either think A) they're meeting up more and fucking, or B) Carrie's working at CIA with Brody, which Brody swore to her wasn't the case.

 

So he's in shit creek regardless now,

 

could completely jeopardize the Brody's relationship with the VP and his family, which fucks the terrorist plot up, which fucks up the CIA's chance of catching Nazir.

 

 

Way to go David...

 

On another note, when Saul pulled the wine bottle out, I just had visions that she'd smash Saul over the head with it.

 

 

 

 

Loving this season though, and glad to hear it's been picked up for a 3rd, can only assume season 2 ends with another "holy shit" moment.

[Mokong]

Ep 9....OMG

 

 

Shit is hitting the fan and it is AWESOME.

 

Also revelations about Quinn are very interesting....WOOT, looks like they don't plan to let Brody get away scot free afterall. Though I bet he still does

 

[Mokong]

Ep 10

 

Well damn!!!!

 

2 more eps can't wait to see where this pans out.

 

Thank the gods too that they've given reason for Brody to get a bullet again too.

 

But I'm annoyed that when Carrie got to a phone she didn't say anything about what Nazir asked Brody to do or didn't mention Brody at all... I wonder if she's still "in love" with him (I can't see why she would be though given what she knows about it...the attempted suicide bombing, the making her lose her job, and now letting the VP die? Why would she still defend him?

 

If Brody is still alive and not outed as a terrorist at the end of the season they better come up with a damned good excuse for it

 

[Mokong]

Ep 11. 2nd last

 

 

Woot Nazir got and dead! Carrie is a hero

 

Though she was pretty stupid for pointing the finger at Galvez... the whole it makes sense cause "he's a muslim" was pretty piss poor... hell if that is all it takes to be working with the terrorists he wouldn't have been hired in the first place

 

Also very dissappointed she didn't rat out Brody for what happened to the VP.

 

I used to think Carrie was awesome, while she had her issues and people thought she was crazy she was always on the right track where everyone else would be happy to ignore her.

 

But the way she still has feelings for Brody make no sense to me.

 

He tried to blow up the VP and a ton of high ranking officials with a suicide vest strapped to HIMSELF!

An event she tried to prevent and he ended up making her look like a loon with cost her her job and had her sent to a mental ward.

 

How can she still love this guy?

 

If Quinn doesn't kill Brody in the last ep I'll be so upset

But I don't just want him dead I want him outed as a terrorist too, else he'll prolly be given a heroes funeral

 

Gotta say though I am very interested in what is going on with Saul and David. David obviously corrupt to the last an trying to cover his ass.

 

 

 

 

 

The final ep next week should be very interesting

[Murr]

Ep 10

 

Well damn!!!!

 

2 more eps can't wait to see where this pans out.

 

Thank the gods too that they've given reason for Brody to get a bullet again too.

 

But I'm annoyed that when Carrie got to a phone she didn't say anything about what Nazir asked Brody to do or didn't mention Brody at all... I wonder if she's still "in love" with him (I can't see why she would be though given what she knows about it...the attempted suicide bombing, the making her lose her job, and now letting the VP die? Why would she still defend him?

 

If Brody is still alive and not outed as a terrorist at the end of the season they better come up with a damned good excuse for it

 

I'm still an episode behind you :p

 

Well, to start with, the car that hit Carrie, at first I thought it was an "Accident" that was set by the CIA to off Carrie, as I still have a suspicion that David want's her gone.

 

Also the impact that we saw, then the actual state of the car when Saul checks it out is quite amusing, The accident looked alot more damaging then what damage the car has.

 

I can't believe the VP died, I didn't think it'd work, but when the pacemaker kicked up, and Brody started practically admitting to the VP he was going to kill him, I just had this assumption that the VP would survive, or someone would walk in.

 

Saul being stopped when about to head out to corner Nazir from Carries tip-off, again leads me to believe that Carrie is going to be killed off or try to be killed off and David has had Saul taken away from the mission so he doesn't witness an "accidental shooting of Carrie" or "Nazir killing Carrie before the CIA arrive"

 

 

and she's a dumb bitch for going back to the warehouse.

 

Brody's son Chris had a bit of airtime lol, he's such a pointless character, and the Dana / VP's son story line didn't really need to be dug up again, just filling time up I guess.

 

roll on next week

 

 

 

[Mokong]

Season 2 Finale...WOOT, that was awesome.

 

Pretty different from the season 1 finale, started slow but damn that ending!!!!

 

 

Damn that was good.

 

Wasn't sure where it was gonna go considering Nazir was caught in the last ep.

 

Started pretty slow with Carrie and Brody at the cabin by the lake...but having Quinn hovering around kept it interesting....though I still kept wondering "The frak Carrie, come on, he's the guy who strapped a bomb to his chest!!!!" Which Saul also pointed out later in the ep

 

Was disappointed at first when Quinn decided not to kill Brody, but his convo with David later to explain made sense. And I LOVED that he threatened David then. because he's the guy "who kills bad guys"

 

Hope that's not the last we see of Quinn either, hope he comes back for season 3.

 

Couldn't stop laughing though at David lying through his teeth to Saul as to why "he changed his mind" bout Brody. Was hoping Saul would bump into Quinn and Quinn would tell him what really happened.

 

 

Then the memorial for Walden. I had a feeling something would happen...hell I was half expecting Brody once again had a vest with a bomb strapped to him

 

When the bomb went off, my first thought was that maybe David set it up to frame Brody and make him "the bad guy" again and then get Quinn after him again.

But then when you see the car was right behind David when it went off (and later learn he died...HA, FRAK YOU DAVID. Desevred that for what he tried to do to Saul...not what he tried to do to Brody though ) I thought, either he planned that very poorly or it wasn't him afterall.

 

Loved when Carrie woke up and pointed a gun at Brody, can't believe he talked her down though I bet he did do it, he hated both Walden AND David.... and that he managed to get himself and Carrie out of the main blast area, he's not 100% innocent I bet/hope

 

Was hoping a rescue crew would find them before they got out but damn that Carrie, she be good I guess. But thank frak she decided not to go on the run with him and went back.

No idea how she will try to "clear his name" though. Even if in Season 3 she can prove Brody was framed in that bombing, having the Video of him released people will always see him as a terrorist even if they can explian he made the video for a different bombing that he later didn't do, nobody would trust him again and would prolly end up on trail/in jail for that despite the "deal" they had made this season.

 

Can't wait to see how Season 3 will go. Saul will probably become the head of the CIA, Carrie his number 2? The terrorist guy they showed on the news broadcast, I assume was Nazir's number 2 so he'll likely be who they are hunting.

 

Wonder what Carrie will say to Saul bout her disappearing act though? Will he put 2 + 2 together and realise Brody is on the run?

 

 

 

Woot, bring on Season 3..... do we have to wait for Sep 2013 for that again

 

Also I must add, Mandy Patinkin should be getting a bucket of awards for playing Saul. He's been my fav character this season.

Edited December 17, 2012 by Mokong

[are1981]

I am now sure – this is this the second best TV/film/moving-images-entertainment I have ever seen, right behind Jericho.

 

Waiting until October for its next episode... oh wow... that is a long wait!

[Platty]

That was good wasn't it! Did not expect that bomb at all after the slow start to the ep.

 

Like you Franky boy I think Brody could have been involved, they played out the episode very well to keep you guessing. But then I kept having strange thinkings about Saul being involved? I love his character so I hope not, just some scenes and some of the things he said I was like hmmmm could he be involved?!

 

At first I was like why are they running? why don't they just go hey look check the CCTV and I'm sure you will see someone move my car. It wasn't me I was busy trying to get my end away with crazy danes. But then AQ release the video and uh oh!!

 

Great set up for series 3.

 

 

[Oxigen_Waste]

I am now sure – this is this the second best TV/film/moving-images-entertainment I have ever seen, right behind Jericho.

 

[Murr]

Well episode 2 of season 3 really wasn't all that great. 1st episode started slow, but eventually livened up with the operation to take out them 6 guys, this episode however was just dull..

 

I really don't like the more Dana & Family scenes. I just don't like Dana.

 

And stealing a picture from GAF, but it some's up home Homeland is at the moment perfectly...

 

 

Hoping it picks up next week.

 

 

EDIT - this made me chuckle..

 

Edited October 14, 2013 by Murr

[Mokong]

Watched the first 3 eps yesterday.

 

First was good, agreed on the 2nd, don't see much point in spending so much time on Brodys daughter.....again.

3rd I really liked though, nice change of setting, felt almost like a different show.

[Mokong]

As I said previously first 2 eps weren't great, didn't like how the season seemed to be going but since ep 3 and especially since the end of ep 4 the season has really picked. Just seen the newest ep, ep 9 and all the plans seem to be coming together, really enjoying season 3 now.

 

 

After the first few eps I thoughtthe whole season was gonna be Carrie in the nut house trying to get out or get back at Saul/the CIA or something.

Ep 3 focusing on Brody was nice to see where he was and was a great ep but Ultimately Carries situation was still the same.

Ep 4 seemed to be solidifying the idea of what I thought season 3 was gonna be doing (Carrie being turned against the CIA) but then the pitch perfectly played twist at the end revealing the whole thing was a big hail Mary play by Saul and Carrie

 

Was also glad that they seemed to forget about Brodys family after I think Ep 4 when the daughter changed her name.... though she did return in Ep 9 it all tied in well with what was going on throughout the rest of the ep. Carrie is still a bit of a nut job though, still get the feeling her tendency to go with her feelings over common sense will screw her over again like it did in Ep 8.

 

[Mokong]

Am I the only one still watching this?

 

Just finished the penultimate ep of the season, really enjoyed it. Nice bit of tension and some twists. Looking forward to next week to see how it ends.

 

Was thinking though with the way the story has now gone and assuming the final ep goes how I hope it will, surely this would be the final episode with things coming full circle in a way. But I just spotted that it has indeed been renewed for a 4th season. Hard to see what could be done witha 4th season as all the main characters now seem to be coming to a decent end game scenario.

 

Then again I thought the same at the penultimate ep of last season and they managed to come up with a hell of final twist to mix things up and give rise to this season which while it started poor has picked up a hell of alot from about ep 4 and been pretty good since

[Mokong]

Am I the only one still watching this?

 

 

So I am then?

 

 

Ah well....

 

 

Just watched the season 3 finale, pretty good, not as action packed as I was expecting but a good send off, should have really been a series finale though and end the show on this one, don't know how a forth season will work.

 

 

I thought the whole ep would be mainly the "Escape" from Iran and maybe Brody getting some redemption and respect from the CIA/America for having completed his mission, maybe come up with a cover story that blaming him for the CIA bombing was all part of the plan to get him close to the Iranian General guy. But I guess they wouldn't be able to give him credit as it might expose Javadi....

 

Did not expect he would be sold out, while I knew Dar Adal wanted to sell him out I thought he'd respect Saul enough to let Saul make the call and follow it through since the whole thing was his idea.

 

The whole ep was very slow though overall, I kept expecting at the end something to blow up or shots to be fired or something similar to how the season 2 finale was very slow then BOOM... but never happened, which again just made it feel more like a show finale or an epilogue to close things off.

 

With Brody dead I don't see how they can do a 4th season given the whole show was built around the characters of Carrie and Brody (and possibly Saul) so with Brody gone what next? Will it become like a CSI type show now or something I mean with Javadi in place and working with them the way it ended seemed to suggest Iran was no longer a problem for them?

 

I guess there are still terrorist groups that they'll have to deal with and can build season 4 around..... though I was thinking and I would like to see them try something new and maybe make season 4 about North Korea or something

 

 

Also I know early in the season I was saying I wish they didn't spend so much time on Brodys family as their story didn't seem relevent anymore, but I was thinking towards the end they should have given them one more scene. Sure maybe they didn't want to make his relation to the CIA known in order to protect Javadi but would have been nice to let his family know he actually died a hero in service to his country or something

 

[MoogleViper]

I'm still watching it.

 

Does anybody think Dar Adal has a really weird voice? I think it's most evident in those "Previously..." buits at the start of the eps where they show Carrie running towards the bomber in the motel room, and just before Quinn shoots Dar says, "Turn around, Carrie. Turn around now."

 

Particularly the way he says, "now" is quite strange.

 

[Dog-amoto]

I watched s1 a few months ago, just got round to starting s2. On episode 4 I think.

 

It's ok, but is a little hammy and predictable. Good, yes. But the greatest show ever like some have lauded it to be? Not even close.