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Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception

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Don't level that bullshit accusation of "pretension" at me.

 

I felt Portal 2's length was unnecessary. The form Portal arrived in was perfect, as part of a bundle of other games. It didn't need to be long and it benefited from that endlessly. Portal 2 had to be longer because it was a stand alone product and I felt that killed some of its momentum. There's no point in arguing one way or the other because that's what I think and you think its fantastic. That's cool, I respect your opinion. I'm not bothered we don't agree. I don't need to insist on anything. Hell, I'm happy you loved it so much. I don't really feel strongly enough either way to be really honest (My GOTY goes to Infamous 2 because I've never played a game that flowed so beautifully).

 

As for which is the better game? That's just a stupid question. That's like asking 'Which is the better fruit, mangoes or pineapples?' (I'm leaning towards pineapples). What do you even mean by 'better'.

 

If you really want me to answer it I'll say I thought Uncharted 3 clearly had more faults (I've listed a whole load on the past few pages). Having said that, I enjoyed it more. It's utterly bombastic, I didn't care about its flaws because I was just having too much goddamn fun. Portal 2 is the 'better' game, I guess, but as I got closer and closer to the end I became less enthused by it. If Valve ever wanted to do a real episodic game, Portal 2 would have been the place to start (but that's a different discussion altogether). Portal 2 was more of Portal because it is essentially a puzzle game. Uncharted 3 in contrast was better precisely because it was another installment of the franchise, it didn't suffer because of the games before it because it's essentially a character driven action game.

 

After all that, both games were brilliant but both games had their faults. I think the theme this year with games is that they've all gotten bigger and they've all suffered because of it but this hasn't affected Uncharted anywhere near as much as Arkham Shitty, and to a lesser extent Portal 2 (the first felt much more claustrophobic and was, due to it coming out of nowhere, mysterious - Srly, who the hell would have expected a character like GLaDOS to have emerged out of it).

 

TL;DR - Stupid question doesn't get answered.

 

Oh, and then there's Uncharted's online which is awesome. So I guess Uncharted is the 'better' game. Or something.

 

Not sure why you're asking me how I didn't love it because at no point did I say I didn't.

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Oxigen_Waste Newbie

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What??? It was a pretentious remark daft-o!! No need to take it personal!

 

Anyway, you seem to be faulting Portal from deviating from the original's formula, which really was the point Valve insisted on... It is, imo a perfect sequel precisely because it doesn't try to do more of the same better, but instead goes in a completely different direction when it comes to ambience and mood. I thought that was great! You seem to be focusing on the things it didn't do (even if it was never supposed to) too much.

 

Like, what the hell does multiplayer have to do with anything?? Oo

 

As for the fruit thing, come on, you yourself said you have a goty, therefore you believe in the need for comparison, what's with the fruit thing?? Terrible analogy, D!

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What??? It was a pretentious remark daft-o!! No need to take it personal!

 

It wasn't a pretentious remark. That annoys me. You don't agree with me and you don't like that. It should be patently obvious that it's an opinion.

 

Anyway, you seem to be faulting Portal from deviating from the original's formula, which really was the point Valve insisted on... It is, imo a perfect sequel precisely because it doesn't try to do more of the same better, but instead goes in a completely different direction when it comes to ambience and mood. I thought that was great! You seem to be focusing on the things it didn't do (even if it was never supposed to) too much.

 

Did you actually read my post?

 

"Portal 2 was more of Portal because it is essentially a puzzle game." U3 is a story with a game attached. This is blatantly inherent in how they are both designed. I never even mentioned the mood or the ambiance which I agree with you on. (Sadly not) Needless to say, "There's no point in arguing one way or the other because that's what I think and you think its fantastic. That's cool, I respect your opinion."

 

I understand why you like Portal. Just like I understand what makes it a brilliant game. That doesn't mean I have to enjoy it more than another game. Why is that so hard to understand? Yes, Lost in Translation in meant to be a beautiful piece of film, I think it's a load of wank. But I understand why it is critically acclaimed. I even agree with a lot of the praise. Do you get that there can be a legitimate disconnect between critical capital and personal capital? Because if you don't then you just wasting my time.

 

And please point to where I said Portal 2 didn't do one thing or another.

 

Like, what the hell does multiplayer have to do with anything?? Oo

 

You asked me which was better, U3 or P2. You can't pick and choose what is part of the game and what isn't. You cited Portal 2's coop. Uncharted 3 has fantastic online. Whatever comes on disk is the game.

 

As for the fruit thing, come on, you yourself said you have a goty, therefore you believe in the need for comparison, what's with the fruit thing?? Terrible analogy, D!

 

It's not a terrible analogy. You're comparing games against some mythical objective standard. Infamous 2 is my GOTY because I had a blast with it. I have a GOTY and so I must believe in comparisons? On a very basic level, yes. Do I believe it's the 'best' game this year? I don't know. I don't care. It was awesome. You question was bullshit.

 

I have no idea why you are trying to assert your opinion.

 

I like you but you ain't half full of shit sometimes.

 

Edit: Actually, I can't really be bothered with this. You're right. I'm wrong. Blah.

 

Now I think about it I totally did have an awesome time on Portal 2 and it's the best game ever.

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Just picked this up today, not really feeling it so far. Not keen on the melee combat, though that's probably because I've recently played Arkham City. The aiming and shooting is terrible, and the controls still feel really loose, like I'm not really in control. But I suppose it's the same in the other two games so I guess I shouldn't have expected better

 

On the plus side, the locales are terrific, and I'm enjoying the story again - really enjoyed the setting of the first couple of chapters, but it still all feels the same as the first two - they couldn't even be bothered mixing up the trophy requirements either, it's all get 30 kills with X weapon again or kill X enemies hanging from a ledge.

 

Maybe I'll try the multiplayer later to see what you're all raving about, but at the moment, I'm thinking that maybe I should've just rented this.

Wesley Newbie

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Are you not even able to compliment a game without giving shit to another?

 

You're a dick.

 

But I agree with your first part, the fact it's quite same-y isn't a huge problem because no other game has managed to breech this field yet.

 

Much the same with Batman.

 

Obviously you can't keep relying on this/doing this though.

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Why am I a dick for pointing out flaws (not nitpicking) in what I think is a pretty average series? Not sure what you mean when you say without giving shit to another??

 

I don't hate the game, I really do, for the most part, enjoy it. But pretty much everything - the controls, the gunplay, the platforming have all been done better in other games. If it had, say for example, the climbing mechanics of Assassin's Creed, or the more satisfying (just my opinion) shooting of Gears of War then it would be an overall better game. But it doesn't. Where this game excels though is in its pacing, locales, cinematic feel and the way it throws differing gameplay styles together to make a pretty good movie that you control.

 

It's not a bad game by any stretch. I really want to love these games and I just wish I could see what you guys see in it. Maybe it's partly due to my hatred of the Playstation controller? Who knows?

 

And thanks for the sensitivity tip @Choze, that's made it a lot better, though I don't remember doing this in the other games.

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Why am I a dick for pointing out flaws (not nitpicking) in what I think is a pretty average series? Not sure what you mean when you say without giving shit to another??

 

That's because I wasn't talking to you.

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Uncharted on PS4 would be insane. I cant imagine the look of the it. U3's graphics are insane. I imagine they will do more to the animation. You can see in U3 the characters are animating even more naturally though the dynamic animation aspect can be imperfect at times.

 

Who the fuck cares about the graphics, anyway? oO

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Thats a compliment in this day and age, especially as Uncharted is its own unique game. Unlike say COD which is based exactly on hundreds of fps before it. Besides the changes between U2 and U1 were very big.

 

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The absolute worst thing about this game pertains to the fact that it's leaps and bounds ahead of any other game I've played in regards to animation. It highlights how primitive, robotic and lifeless facial animation is as a whole.

 

As Oxigen_Waste discussed the 2nd half is a lot stronger than the first - which I found quite tedious tbh.

 

On reflection, Eurogamer's review is spot on with my own. An excellent game but not without its flaws.

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I don't know if it was posted yet, but I finally got around to watching it after me friends kept annoying me to watch it, glad they kept doing it :D

Had a great laugh.

 

Look up lol

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On the one hand I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand A) They really are....god damn amazing maps, B) It is REALLY really really cool from a (me/obsessed fan perspective) to see the changes of the maps;

 

The Fort on Uncharted 2 was absolutely blissful weather with a bright sun beaming in the sky, U3 version is heavy rain.

 

The Ice Cave is now "The Cave" and is no longer a snow and ice riddled barren temple but a rich forest and rock/vegetation iteration. Looks stunning.

 

But yeah. New maps will come!

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I like maps that look like they could be places. It's why I love Chateau, Airstrip and Yemen and why I deplore crap like Museum and City of Brass (although CoB has pretty good objective placement).

 

Where's my goddamn boat map!?

 

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