Sanchez Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I already did leave. An admin has a position of responsibility. It isn't right to go looking into someone's personal messages even if they have been banned and especially out of sheer curioisity. That's wrong, even if there are no rules officially stating it is. If you think an admin isn't responsible then you leave and forget about it, you don't come back and whine about it because that's pointless and a waste of time. The admin has supreme power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresher than fresh Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 In my personal opinion, although I myself have no private messages, if I did I wouldnt like them being looked at. Sure you say you wouldnt look at a users PM's who arent banned, but even if they are banned the content of their accounts should simply be deleted if they are not coming back. Its still private after all. But most people should know if you want to keep something truely private, use other means like instant messengers and just use the PM system to share their emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twozzok Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 You say people who have been banned won't ever get back in? Why am I here? I've been banned before... EDIT: Also, seeing as this forum is attached to a website with commercial interest, As in owned by a company that probably does have it's own policy, why are you admitting it publicly that you've gone through a banned users PM box :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 You say people who have been banned won't ever get back in? Why am I here? I've been banned before... I assume he means only permanent ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresher than fresh Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Once banned. Always banned. I took that too literal then, my bad. But if The ganondorf or whatever is permanently banned, all the content on his account should of simply been deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The4thChildren Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 You say people who have been banned won't ever get back in? Why am I here? I've been banned before... EDIT: Also, seeing as this forum is attached to a website with commercial interest, As in owned by a company that probably does have it's own policy, why are you admitting it publicly that you've gone through a banned users PM box :/ This is what I'm getting at. I just wasn't smart enough to post it. Thanks, Twozzok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I took that too literal then, my bad. But if The ganondorf or whatever is permanently banned, all the content on his account should of simply been deleted. Aye, I've always wondered why they "keep" the account. Possibly if you delete the account all posts/thread get removed with it (which wouldn't be a bad thing for TG). Can you totally remove an account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresher than fresh Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Aye, I've always wondered why they "keep" the account. Possibly if you delete the account all posts/thread get removed with it (which wouldn't be a bad thing for TG). Can you totally remove an account? Hmm thats a good point, every time a member would get banned the entire forum would shift back in posts, which would be kinda troublesome seeing as some people here have posts in the thousands. I've also noticed on other forums when users get banned you can still view their profile if you find one of their posts prior to the ban, in which you can obtain information like their email which they may want disclosed after being banned. Oh well, still, I'm very much against the invasion of privacy any one here could encounter when they are banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubechris Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 With vbulletin when a user is deleted, all there posts simply become posts under the username 'guest'. FUN FACT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 So why don't we do that then? Instead we have them "in another castle" (how fanboyish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 This is what I'm getting at. I just wasn't smart enough to post it. Thanks, Twozzok. Are you the 3rd children back again? How ironic that you're posting in a thread like this. Also, to the fresh imposter, your avatar ccould be seen as offensive. Also, who was it that was banned yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMat Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Yeah, how do i know my PMs haven't been read? There's nothing incriminting in there i don't think. But the P stands for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMad Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I say we all get banned and fill our PMs with comments bitching about Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanchez Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Yeah, how do i know my PMs haven't been read? There's nothing incriminting in there i don't think. But the P stands for something. It's meant to stand for private in the sense that it isn't public, like in public forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twozzok Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I assume he means only permanent ban. It was a permanent ban. I've never had one of those 'probation' thingies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellyn Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Everyone's taking this a bit too personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMad Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Everyone's taking this a bit too personally. Well when someone admits they have no problem with reading other's personal messages, invading their privacy, people tend to take it personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share Posted September 2, 2007 Geez you lot are a big bunch of - I'll leave that sentence there but lets put it this way. Everyone was quite willing to criticse, belittle, insult, bully and threaten TG. Let he without sin. * As far as deleting, all accounts of someone can be erased, we did it with Booker, but it can be useful for us to have records and evidence, and something to compare to in a suspicious circumstance. And Dynamic IPs throw a spanner in banning IPs (which we do, but it doesn't always work) and p.s. The4th isn't guy, its an impersonator. * and as I've said elsewhere before now, it is my belief that if I need to know something nobody has privacy. I would only do it on a need to know basis but I have even looked through friend's phones and stuff if I needed something that I couldn't find by asking them. Looking at TGs was with the intent of seeing if he had correspondance with others and whether he caused trouble, or if any of you lot had contacted him with insulting messages. Granted, looking at some of them may have been for personal interest, but I need something in a place full of people willing to jump down my throat. So to sum up basically, fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moohawk! Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 * and as I've said elsewhere before now, it is my belief that if I need to know something nobody has privacy. I would only do it on a need to know basis but I have even looked through friend's phones and stuff if I needed something that I couldn't find by asking them. Looking at TGs was with the intent of seeing if he had correspondance with others and whether he caused trouble, or if any of you lot had contacted him with insulting messages. Granted, looking at some of them may have been for personal interest, but I need something in a place full of people willing to jump down my throat. So to sum up basically, fuck off. No, you fuck off. People have a perfectly legitimate complaint here. Nobody has privacy if you need to know something? Who the hell made you god? Admin on a power trip there. Seriously. If you're looking through pm's, whether they are banned members or not, then perm ban me right now because I don't want to be on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share Posted September 2, 2007 No, you fuck off. People have a perfectly legitimate complaint here.Nobody has privacy if you need to know something? Who the hell made you god? Admin on a power trip there. Seriously. If you're looking through pm's, whether they are banned members or not, then perm ban me right now because I don't want to be on this forum. Its not an admin power trip. Its a personal thing, which I do in the real world, like I said. I have looked through one banned members PMs would people stop being so pissy. I'd say 90% of this forum has done something they shouldn't and you're all up on your high horse. Geez. Get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubechris Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 and p.s. The4th isn't guy, its an impersonator. Yeah it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share Posted September 2, 2007 Yeah it is. The ambiguity of that statement could go either way (he is/he isn't) :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Ashbabe, can you sort out what it going on before this breaks out like it did last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moohawk! Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Its not an admin power trip. Its a personal thing, which I do in the real world, like I said. I have looked through one banned members PMs would people stop being so pissy. I'd say 90% of this forum has done something they shouldn't and you're all up on your high horse. Geez. Get a grip. It might be a personal thing but I don't know you personally. Your friends might be okay with you rooting through their phones but I'm not. The comparison you're making basically says that if I was sat next to you on a bus then you could take my phone from me and look at my texts because it was a 'personal thing'. It IS an admin power trip thing because you shouldn't be doing it. Yes, we all have done things we shouldn't but you are in a position of the highest responsibility here and to admit you've been snooping through someone's pm's is utterly disgusting. I'd say your completely unapologetic attitude is fueling the fire here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMat Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Yeah but it actually is him. Carrying on. It's alright for YOU to look through PMs, jsut for your own personal amusement? What the fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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