jammy2211 Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 People are blowing this sales thing way out of proportion. Suda 51 games have never sold over there, I mean Killer 7, the spiritual predescesor of No More Heroes sold under 30k for it's lifetime combined between GC and PS2 sales. No More Heroes has done 10k first day sales and looks like it's going to sell more then Killer7 ever did in Japan. It's nothing to do with a change in the Japanese market or a hatred towards hardcore games, it's just games like this have never sold in Japan since day one :/. It's always been hoping America will save it sales-wise, and in all honesty I think it can. Of course at the moment they're releasing it on the same day as Smash Bro's, sigh. Still, the Japanese sales are hardly anything we shouldn't have expected..
mcj metroid Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 it would actually sell a lot better in europe if it had blood. It's not a stupid assumption it's true.
James_banned Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 the following people need killing, for stating this game: a) looks crap b)is a rip off of GTA The people are: Davey_T Warandchaos.
mcj metroid Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 it doesn't look crap and saying it's a rip off of gta is like saying sonic is a rip off of mario. what's your excuses guys?
Tellyn Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 I think it looks fantastic, it makes me want to buy Killer7.
jammy2211 Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 it would actually sell a lot better in europe if it had blood. It's not a stupid assumption it's true. Not sure, I mean this game is already horribly nishe (Cel-shaded graphics, New IP, Japanese design), surely an 18+ rating could give the game the kiss of death sales-wise? The European market has always been less accepting to violent games in terms of sales when compared to the US. I'm not saying I'm for the edit but it's surely going to help the game sell and have a hope in hell of reaching some mainstream appeal.
Hellfire Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 it doesn't look crap and saying it's a rip off of gta is like saying sonic is a rip off of mario. what's your excuses guys? who cares, let's just kill them. I really live Suda's aproach to games. Killer 7: "I want a weird mind fuck game, let's just just put this shit on rails and get it over with." NMH: "OK, he's a professional killer, let's just throw in an unfinished overworld as a nod to GTA and make a fucking awesome and visceral combat system. FUck those critics."
mcj metroid Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 well without blood(and for the record i don't understand the big deal in blood anyway, even in movies)this is 15+ rating.
jammy2211 Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 well without blood(and for the record i don't understand the big deal in blood anyway, even in movies)this is 15+ rating. I think it's more a cultural thing anyway. Games with blood and gore and violence have for the most part sold poorly in Europe, except in the UK where we have a very similiar culture to that of the USA. There are obvious exceptions but most of these are from major franchises which are recognised worldwide, so it's hardly a legit comparison.
mcj metroid Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 hm yes i guess so. I can only imagine these games selling well in uk and ireland.
C.H Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 For those who haven't read this in the Manhunt 2 thread , the Video Appeals Committee has overturned the BBFC ruling to ban Manhunt 2. If the BBFC don't appeal this, it could have an effect on Rising stars decision on which version of NMH to release in Europe. With enough pressure from consumers, they may seriously reconsider.
jammy2211 Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 That on course depends on whether Rising Star were affraid of being rejected completely by the BBFC, or whether they just wanted to get a lower age rating to increase the sales-potential of the game.
Davey_T Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 it doesn't look crap and saying it's a rip off of gta is like saying sonic is a rip off of mario. what's your excuses guys? My excuse? Sorry but it just doesnt look appealing to me. And Hellfire you need to chill out. Its a game..
Hellfire Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 My excuse? Sorry but it just doesnt look appealing to me. And Hellfire you need to chill out. Its a game.. You need to chill out. It's the internet.
Davey_T Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 You need to chill out. It's the internet. 'Fuck those critics' and 'lets just kill them' just because i dont think the game looks appealing.
Gizmo Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 I still get a laugh everytime people take Hellfire seriously. <3 Let's hope Rising Star rethink their decision on giving us the censored version after the Manhunt appeal was successful.
Davey_T Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 How am i supposed to know -.-. Oh well il let you get on with your game raping
mcj metroid Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 How am i supposed to know -.-. Oh well il let you get on with your game raping .....was it you that said it was a gta clone:D
James McGeachie Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 it doesn't look crap and saying it's a rip off of gta is like saying sonic is a rip off of mario. what's your excuses guys? It's a lot more drastic a difference than that. The hub in this game apparently is nothing like GTA at all, it's just like an empty overworld that serves solely as a way to travel from mission to mission and apparently isn't even very refined. It's just like a field in a Zelda game but probably without even actual combat or much to do. So it's like apples and oranges making any GTA comparisons.
Hellfire Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 I still get a laugh everytime people take Hellfire seriously. <3 I know! lol Even if it wasn't me, I mean c'mon guys, get a sarcasm detector or something!
Davey_T Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 GTA > No More Heroes Wonder how many people this will wind up. Hmm
Razz Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 Mate, you haven't played it, so you can't say that. Or is the point where I should get out my sarcasm detector..
DCK Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 Anybody who says GTA > anything needs to get his brain out of his arse.
James_banned Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 Anybody who says GTA > anything needs to get his brain out of his arse. I love you. Lets make horrible deformed babies togetherand feed them the souls of the silly Japanese who refuse to buy this game and GTA lovers.
James McGeachie Posted December 10, 2007 Posted December 10, 2007 Anybody who says GTA > anything needs to get their brain out of their arse. Well the GTA series has a lot of character, or at least had. The scripts of the main Rockstar North games have always been well written, especially the radio hosts which have always had tons of hilarious dialogue (Vice City especially). The cities have a nice attention to detail too, each area of a city feels defined and not like the attempts at recreating real cities in the Spiderman and other sandbox games where everything feels like endless strings of the same buildings. All it's really ever been is the same sort of concept as gangster and mafia films, yet applied to game format and with tongue in cheek humour. It was never just a "crime simulator". So yeah, I would actually say the GTA series > Virtually every other sandbox game out there, though I haven't played enough of Crackdown to really determine that (It seemed totally awesome).
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