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ReZ - no damage? A friend did something similar and ended up losing four of his front teeth. And by 'similar' I mean 'hit this guy's girlfriend then threatened to kill his mother.' Back from manchester! Met about 13 people I'd never seen/heard of before. Some were way cool, but there was one particular twat that everyone was trying really hard to ditch - and no, it wasn't me :P. Everytime he'd go to the loo we'd all scarper from the pub/bar! He ended up somehow in the club next to the one we ended up in, and was outside when we entered. But yah! Wo'eva. Bought Rant by Palahniuk and that new shakespeare book by Bryson. Ooh! Also leveled-up as a juggler by completing a full circuit of Mill's Mess. Hells yeah. Got an email from uni that says "because you only failed one 20-credit core module, you don't have to come beg for a place. Instead we're gonna make you redo the module this year, so you'll be with a bunch of 2nd-years. Oh yeah - we don't do the module anymore so I guess we'll just stick you on another random module that you kinda practically ACED last year. That coo'?" The timetable's are available now, and it turns out shorty and I have a ridiculous amount of days off -- Shorty only has to go in two days a week next semester, and it's our final year! Shorty's soon to go off for a few days so I get the xbox all to myself, gleeeee!

ok, 19th it is. Lololo~! ... Phone cable no-workie! FFsfsfs.

o wat he's dead? lol. Change Vote: DomLETTERS

yeah, it's got flowers and shit but also has large green areas, and people don't use it as a thoroughfare, so it's chilled.

... You relate to lube? *giggles*

Rummeh you ledge! You have to come. Itinery = 12 midday at Sheffield station, then once we think we've found all the survivors, we amble/stroll/meander our way to Botanical Gardens via Tescos, and drink/eat/frisbee/talk/wrestle/human pyramid our way to friendship. That's... pretty much all that's planned!

Lol :P Well I'm good with 'em. Got a fair few people's numbers from the London meet, and they'll tell you that I've been a saint so far! Zomg 7 days!

Dewd! That sucks, man. Plus - a fourth? You crazy northerner. BACK IN SHEFFIELD ZOMGGZOG! Went to see Meshuggah at the Corporation my first night back. First metal gig and it was aces. Played lots of Castle Crashers with nami and Shorty, which really rocks. Can't wait to play again. Weird being back here. My room is an UTTER STATE. My bed is STILL unmade, and I've not even opened my suitcase since wednesday. Been reading Orson Scott Card - Ender's Game. Pretty easy-going, interesting stuff. Also watched first 3 episodes of CSI last night/this morning. Manchester tomorrow!

Ooh :P I guessed that when I looked at the image yesterday Ok so extension? Yeah. 'Til Tuesday the 15th. Probably. I'm trying to upload mine. I think I had a dream that I was running around snapping some up, then this guy starts chasing me with a broken bit of wood wanting to stab me with it for stealing his BISHes.

Ok so.. got 25 member's addresses and about as many phone numbers. Phase two of N-Erd M-Erder COMPLETE! ... I kid. Cheers for the PMs guys. *laughs madly*

J. Jonah Jameson is the newspaper editor (The Bugle?) from Spiderman. Not going to be an all-out good guy. Perhaps has to get rid of spidey?

Vote: Maddog. Mostly a hang-over from last night. Also I lolled at the night-3 write-up a lot. Mostly because of broken english. Sorry. I feel bad.

yeah; the OR applies to the choice of attire, but the "rainbow" bit applies to both. And yeah - I won't accept your lightning or companion cube. I don't mind if they're mid-game attempts, but... well if i let those slide then you could just google everything in the list, couldn't you? I'm back in sheff! I'll submit my 34-ish BISHes, and will try to get some more done this weekend. So, yeah; the deadline's extended til next friday. Not that anyone cares. Boo yah.

lol. That's the point! Nobody understands just how deep, self-conscious, complex and multi-layered my drunken posts are. They're all about cheese and nobody's spotted that yet.

I collect jokers and salsa pot lids. ^_^

Baby Giant Panda! That is all.

So I was right and you were wrong? Stop the presses!

Well to be fair, it's been a while.

Ok, first of all ([sic]), I know that difference, but I was referring to the conceptual and and abstract entities of the sensory world! So you were saying that piccasso onwards is better than renaissance? So the bit where I said "people like you did the renaissance" and "people like CTG did surrealism" is surely some propz to da Chrismon? And what you say about beauty/meaning -- i'm not disagreeing with you that beauty alone is empty. I agree that it needs to be coupled with other meaning. But I am saying that this other meaning is not always inherant in the object you perceive, that the meaning is in your own mind; that you use the object to glean this meaning from your own mind and because there was no artist with intention to cause this or any meaning that you create. Ultimately this is what art does too! The only thing you can argue is that with Art there is intention; there is an artist that created this intention. Often, the easiest way to explain this notion is to clamour onto 'beauty,' which I deem as good as the phrases "nice" and "i'm ok" at explaining the full meaning that the speaker intends. I am arguing that it is the meaning that makes art, not just the intention. I guess that means I'm conflicting with myself when I said "all art has an artist," but maybe 'artist' is another argument :P

Remind me of your definition of art? I've missed it. Abstract covers concepts, concrete covers that which you can touch, see, whatever. So abstract covers love, hate, anger, frustration, laughter, god, spirits, dreams, and so on. Concrete is stuff like trees, grass, books, water, flies, badgers, and so on. To glean is to attain information, meaning from something. I suppose we are covering three different concepts here; whether the artist had a meaning to portray, whether the object has a meaning to portray and whether the viewer feels a meaning from the object. You are arguing most certainly that the object has not been impregnated with any meaning, not necessarily exudes any of its own. I am arguing that the viewer finds meaning in it. Do you argue that art, then, needs more than one person? That it is the communication aspect that is most important with art? And you know, you don't have to swear all the time :P It makes you seem like you're getting angry and worked up over matters so trivial! I do agree. Hedonism is not something I condone. I'm just saying that you can't flat-out say beauty is meaningless when you then go on to say except when it conveys an emotional charge... which is my point when i listed what I did. I agree it is a sensational thing on the large part, but that does not mean the word cannot be used in conjunction with emotional feeling behind it. Surely you can only complain of the word because it just displays the speaker's limited capacity to express what they themselves mean? Not to comment on this or anything - i'm sure you have a point - I'm just confused which period of art you're referring to at which time The point I refuted was your solid hard fact; "physical beauty is meaningless." Again I'm confused; so you're saying Picasso's art is indeed mundane, and that you actually do prefer the renaissance? Just to say; I think having display swords is silly because most people will think it looks silly when they come over and see it. you need a big fuck-off ace or warhammer on your wall to freak the shit out of people.

OFF TOPIC! RAR! BEHAVE!

Quick note: Ash; that Eve and Wall-E's names are 'derived' from what their initials stand for is highly unlikely, isn't it? They most likely came up with the names and tried to squish some decent-sounding acronym from whatever they could. RE: the spit/swallow issue. My ex used to run to the sink if there wasn't a glass of water next to the bed. Swallowing was only an option when the other's weren't. I didn't particularly care, though.

You're being silly when you talk about ghandi - he's not art :P I'm not going to accept that as part of your pre-emtive barricade against "oh, but anything can be art if you just think it is" either, because of course that's silly. Art is undefinable. I like to think that art requires an artist, which removes all natural entities and focuses on the artist's vision, or conception if you will, of anything abstract or concrete. Physical Beauty is not meaningless. try telling that to the Greeks, or anyone involved in a european renaissance. Talking about Picasso then dismissing physical beauty is ignorant of what most of the art movements in the early 20th century were trying to achieve, and I would argue that dismissing that one aspect in turn narrows down and debases the artist's and the audience's mental potential for processing the art. beauty is not an extra. Beauty is arguably an option, especially if you couple the meaning of 'beauty' as to being something which creates admiration, or attraction, or affection, or pleasure - something to that degree. As to it being a solid, hard fact - well [blankety] beauty is meaningless, too, but bandering that around adds nor detracts from the argument. Nobody is arguing that the swords will be more swordlike if they were more beautiful -- which is what I take to be your argument, that Ghandi and Guernicca couldn't be more Ghandi or Guernica if you added another palm tree -- they are mostly arguing for, I would hope, the other emotions and feelings, 'meaning' that they glean from swords. So I refute your solid, hard fact. I put it to you that paintings like Guernicca only ever existed because it was people like you who motioned in the Renaissance, who believed that there must be some objective correctness in the arts, and people like Chris The Great who saw the potential for beauty, for art in everyday objects that ushered in the more interesting eras of art. [edit: yeah that's not a very coherant post.]apparantly writing an entire post in brackets makes the forum think there aren't any characters here.

there's a map... in... my.... post... *expodes*

ok, let's start formulating some plans? Saturday 20th Sept, ~12 midday. Meet at sheffield train station. PM me your phone number if you want mine, and we'll all be groovy text buddies. From here we will parade past Hallam uni, along Arundel Gate, then up St. Mary's gate to get onto Ecclesall Road, then amble along 'til we get to tescos, top up on supplies then cross the road to the park. google map ROUGH guide to the route. Yes, it appears to be 2.1 miles, so it's probably a 30-min walk. There are buses but I can't confirm teh numbers/routes for you just at this moment. If weather is rubbish; we still meet at 12 midday. Then we go to devonshire green instead, or at least the devonshire quarter. Pubs and bars such as the Dev Cat which always has awesome cider's on tap (if the weather's good then any late-stayers shall hopefully join me in a trip here to savour these anyway), and a green in case weather turns. Of course, these are just my rough, sketchy ideas for what we can do. It would be MEGA COOL if people stayed a couple of nights a lá london meet. If I had a row of army-styleé bunk beds in my flat I'd cram y'all in, but alas!