Dannyboy-the-Dane
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I find gender neutrality a bit... artificial.
Not wanting to push your child into a stereotype is all well and good, but neutrality is setting yourself apart, picking neither one side or the other. In a sense it's the stance with the least options, as your only choice is to not make one.
Enforcing neutrality on a child is no better than pushing them towards one gender stereotype or the other. In this case it also seems more about contrarianism than neutrality: it's fine for her boy to wear a ballerina outfit but combats are a no-no. I suspect that if she'd had a girl the opposite would be the case, as she appears to be letting stereotypes inversely affect her parenting choices in order to make a statement.
I feel that having the core of identity that gender allows is very useful and comforting. Being able to say, "I am male" or "I am female" gives an invaluable foundation when it comes to defining who you are. Even if your conclusion is, "I am a female trapped in a male body" or "I am a man attracted to other men", that sense of identity allows you to function, not flounder.
People want equality, not neutrality. For me the latter draws attention to differences by denying them, whereas egalitarianism is more about accepting diversity; it isn't wrong to think "that person is black" or "he's gay" so long as you treat them with the same respect as you would anyone else.
The best post in this thread by far. You nailed it, Aimless.
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Idiot, meet Douchebag. Douchebag, Idiot.
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Her point is that gender is instilled and naturalised through various forms of structural violence and that just letting him/her just be will leave the child exposed to these external forces whereas she is attempting to shield the child from all that.
She is attempting to destabilise the notion of gender and, to be fair to her, that's probably what is going to happen (and isn't actually that hard to do). She's just doing it to a pointless extreme.
It's a shame that this incident doesn't seem to be educating people at all; most people on this thread are still tug-o-warring between two genders. That's the real tragedy, that with this extreme case most people inadvertently reveal their naturalised identity constructs.
And that's a big reason why I hate academia, it's elitist as fuck.
But how on Earth is she going to successfully do that? He's bound to be confronted by society's prejudices sooner or later, and then what? How will he handle that? I also think it's very difficult to be objective in such cases; how do we accurately determine what's nature and what's nurture? And even if we could, what do we deem proper/healthy amounts of nurture?
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My dad made comment as if to say I'm being hypochondriac....I think he really doesn't realise how shit im having it at the moment... Not forgetting him breeding with his cousin to create me is possibly half the reason that i'm so sick all of the time... ARGH. Now I'm starting to doubt myself as if I'm crazy
I spend a couple of weekends ago in agony, sleeping most of the time and he didn't even think to check if I was ok... I can't eat any quantity of food or even drink water without agonising pains in my chest, and my eyes are like a bag of shit at the moment.... angry bloodshot and just shit. I can't see for shit and lost a lot of confidence with driving... and its like... i'm making it out to be something its not... I don't talk about these things a lot with them because they constantly brush me off like i'm being lazy/stupidI'm going to be honest here, your dad sounds like a bit of an unsympathetic douchebag.
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Aaand I think I just spent all my thanks in here.
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Had an amazing night last night. Went to the annual reunion for classical students at my old gymnasium and later went with a couple of them out on the town for a few hours, which were spent just chatting at a bar and enjoying life, after which we went to the amazing burger place in town before heading home. Now I'm back home in my apartment and about to pop in a Blu-ray with a tray of cookies. Life is fucking good.
Oh, and my old Latin teacher, recalling my love for The Matrix, asked me if I wanted to write an article for a classical magazine about the influence of Plato on The Matrix! Epic win!
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Hey, you scared her away dude.
I'm pretty sure it was the endless barrage of lewd jokes from you guys.
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Apologies for the lateness, I haven't been near a computer for almost two days.
A very happy birthday to an awesome cartoonist and mafia player!
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you could of at least had a most missed member award, which of course I would of won :p
Vote: Molly
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And if anyone says that stereotypes or generalisation are "bad" or "wrong" then they're an idiot who needs to be shot.
Not at all, but unfortunately they're often used in horrible ways.
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So sorry to hear it, Serebii.
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If he had been stopped from wearing army clothes and being close to guns because his father had died in a war, no one would twitch an eye.
I would be more understanding, sure, but I still wouldn't like it.
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I get the impression the reason it's more biased towards femininity is because the associated stereotypical characteristics are generally more compatible with a liberal politics than masculine ones are. For example, stereotypical boys toys often glorify guns and military and a more "survival of the fittest"-esque worldview.
Also, the mother is perhaps conscious of the privileges associated with being a [cisgendered] man, and doesn't want her child growing up being able to take those privileges.
But then she's not being neutral. She's forcing her child into a certain role.
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She's an idiot. She's just forcing her own gender politics on her kid. It's the same as raising your child as a boy/girl, but she has the added advantage of making her child a social 'other' at the same time.
We live in a world of socially constructed gender identities, and that's is not an evil so long as we understand the transient and fluid nature of these identities. She may be trying to destabilize this child's gender identity but it's wholly unfair to ask a child that won't understand these issues to stand out from the crowd.
You aren't going to change gender politics from a grass roots level, either. These identities are tied in to capitalism. Billions of pounds are tied up in, for example, the fashion industry and/or advertising. They perpetuate the gender myth. I doubt we will be done with these identities until there has been a radical shift in capitalism.
I'm off to shoot people in a violent videogame while my clay mask facial dries.
I could kiss you.
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My girlfriend's birthday, our 6-month anniversary and Valentine's Day are all within 6 days of each other.
Have you considered combining them and coming up with one great gift?
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In principle the idea is admirable, but in my opinion she's taking it way too far. She says she won't force a stereotype on him, but at the same time she's actually forcing neutrality* on him. To me it seems she's trying to create the illusion that there are no stereotypes, which in my opinion is not the way to go. The concept of stereotypes is very real, and since it's pretty human it's probably here to stay; closing your eyes to it and pretending it doesn't exist won't lead to anything good. You can't force neutrality, and you shouldn't force anything at all; just let the kid develop the way he wants, and teach him openness and tolerance like any good parent should.
*Though her so-called neutrality seems heavily skewed towards stereotypically feminine things.
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It would be far too depressing for me to write down all the things I say I'm gonna do and never get done.
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NOT ONE OF US.
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Wait ...
Did you forget what it was after you went to the N-E meet?Hm? Was I told what it was at the N-E Meet?
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I recognized it immediately.
Maybe it's only recognizable to virgins.
Well, I didn't even know what Dollhouse was until now, so ...
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Just found out Lord Of The Dance is coming to Denmark this spring!
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That's a minor thing, I don't really have an issue with it, it's just something that gets a teensy bit on my nerves. I just think the technobabble is unnecessary. In any context. If Sagan made Cosmos without it, nobody's excused to use it in any context! But I guess you're right. :p eace:
It isn't hard for me to understand that someone could like something I don't... It's hard for me to understand that someone could call something good when it's not... and yes, I'm a bit stubborn on that issue, lol.
Mainly because I myself abide by that sacred rule of mine. I like a lot of stuff which sucks, and I have no problem with that. Hell, we have something in common, I like Matrix Revolutions (absolutely hate Reloaded except for 2 scenes, but I like the 3rd one)! I understand why it's a bad movie, and I'm not trying to deny it's a bad movie, but I still like it, and that's okay. I like The Matrix Revolutions and it sucks. 
and I'm fine with that! Lol. So I inherently always assume that if I can diferentiate between my opinion and an impartial POV, so should others. Stupidly selfish of me, I know... :PBut liking? There's a lot of shows I dislike and which I'm fine with people liking (as in, I'm not gonna mock them for it). Stuff like Boston Legal, How I Met Your Mother, Stargate.... even Doctor Who. The issue here isn't that people like it, it's that it's their favourite TV show. That doesn't make any sense to me... with so many great shows currently airing, how can something so (in my opinion) average be so loved?
The only odd thing here, for me, is that people list it as their favourite, not that they like it.But the technobabble is part of the charm! :p
I'm not really interested in igniting this debate again (again), because I know we'll never agree on it, but to reiterate my point: Quality isn't objective. That, however, does not mean I can't separate my enjoyment of a film from my opinion on its quality. To illustrate: I think the Matrix trilogy is a brilliant set of films, and I love them. I think the infamous Super Mario Bros. film is terrible, but I like that as well. I think The King's Speech is a great film, but it didn't do much for me.
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That's perfectly understandable.
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People being dicks can be fun, yes, but 90% of the time they just look dumb. Being a dick takes so little effort and is thus the preferred modus operandi for morons who just want cheap attention, and so douchebags are born. On the other hand, when people are actually clever and creative with their douchebaggery, it's hilarious, and it also shows they're not just being dicks for the sake of it.