Sheikah

How about voting you? Vote: Peeps Seriously, Cube claims someone boosted him and that would lend him credibility. Knowing whether you're that guy or what you've been doing all these nights would actually be useful to help us work out what the hell is going on.

The only person remaining that we know could stop a kill last night is Yvonne with protection. If someone else who is town can protect or roleblock then speak up now. @Mr\-Paul you are responsible for the blurb in the writeup, correct? What else can you do?

Right, well the only person we still don't know anything about is @The Peeps. We are far along enough and I'm fed up of the secrecy, so I would like to hear what you do and what your targets have been so far. Withholding at this point will basically be a massive red flag to me.

Sorry but I'm not buying it. You had the chance to read two people's PMs but instead you chose a kill based on logic that has already pretty much been disproven (we have supposedly more than 2 roleblockers this game). As proposed before, it's possible that Yvonne and Animal carried out the same roles but on alternating nights. You must have known that you would only get to kill one person as you must have submitted only one target to kill. Saying you had a good possibility of being reversed tracked is nonsense as calling out for someone to do something to you in this game is almost a surefire way of them not actually doing it. Given most people assume everyone could be Mafia, if someone is asking you to target them then it almost certainly feels like there is a catch or deception going on. In fact, what would tracking you even prove? That you killed someone? That's not in question - purely your alignment. Wasting your kill on a hunch to try to kill Yvonne was pretty silly tbh, especially as he is supposed to be a protector and has chosen to protect himself previously, and was due to use protection that night. I'd be more willing to kill you based on bad reasoning and poor actions, then possibly follow through with a Yvonne kill, than vice versa. What say you @EEVILMURRAY? I know you weren't particularly enamoured with Cube either.

@Cube all of your information bar the ReZ result is already known. What information do you have to say Yvonne is guilty? Also you said yesterday - So you said you could use your power twice, but didn't. This is all sounding a bit like BS to be honest.

@Cube what are your abilities and targets so far

Ok, so then he might not be town if Cube is to be believed.

Keep up, check what I posted then say who you targeted.

Yvonne is town. I switched Yvonne and Jonnas last night, thinking the Mafia would try kill Jonnas.

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Just messing, enjoy.

Roleblocking and protecting yourself are different things though. The chances are, and based on past experiences, the PMs would be different. We should be basing our actions on what is most probable.

Admitting every possibility doesn't get us anywhere. Ultimately, you may be right or I may be right. But we're not going to know by doing nothing about it, and I can see this shit dragging into tomorrow if we don't act now. Interesting that Yvonne can also block people from tracking (if you're the one that was blocked). I'd be disappointed if people got the exact same message from targeting a protected Animal as being roleblocked by him. Would make it difficult for town and I'm not aware of a game where people got the exact same flavour for different actions.

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So you remove your vote to consider this? Come on. It's looking like you're desperately trying to find any excuse to keep him in the game. "If" this and "if" that. So "if" Animal protected himself you're saying that Jimbob could also be tasered for targeting him - what, a protection that protects against alignment investigations? Uh oh, that's suddenly sounding quite scummy, isn't it? But oh, wait - Animal doesn't do tasering, remember? Never mind that when Animal admitted to trying to roleblock me, he got redirected to Peeps and he said he was tasered. Tasered following Animal been sent to him after trying to roleblock. Calling for someone to investigate Jimbob to confirm his power smells a bit like bullshit. It would be pretty damn stupid to make up given a town cop could refute it...and Jimbob is not usually one to lie so dramatically, either. Let's stop considering the outside bets and go with what we can't ignore. Regardless of outcome right now, if he stays it's only going to cause all the talk and action focus to be on him, plus he should supposedly be roleblocking tonight. No rewards for guessing who that might be! I switched you and Peeps. That means that rather than targeting yourself (if that is what you're saying) you targeted Peeps. However it's odd that you would find only you targeted Peeps, since naturally to have gone to the person that your target was switched with (by me), I had to target 2 people to switch. And to reiterate, I switched you and Peeps as I didn't trust Peeps but trusted you, and wanted to prevent any possible kill/bad action on you.

It begins. You've spent the last pages of the topic with your vote down bit arguing his case. It's like you were never voting him. I find it ridiculous that given the information we have that you have removed vote.

Not at all. Unlike me you claim to have spent the game protecting your ass and saying you didn't trust anybody. Not our fault you didn't put time into reaching conclusions about who to trust and becoming a team player. In fact by trying to roleblock me you are making things worse. So forgive me if I've no tear to dab. I certainly wouldn't say there's pot kettle black here - you were linked to Peeps' roleblocking, who said himself said was tasered - the same as Jimbob. When you are up against such scrutiny you need to reveal. I can criticise people who want me to similarly reveal when I already laid good hints (not 'it can't be confirmed' like you basically said) and when I'm not being linked to a scummy occurrence. Different situations, different expectations.

I actually have no clue why you keep saying this. Most people don't know what the PM flavour will be on their targets when they use their actions on people. Why do you keep saying this as a defence? I don't know the specifics of the PMs people receive when I switch them. You know what, I am going to say, the level of passion in your response is making me question it, because I wouldn't think you'd go so far to protest your innocence. You seem genuinely angry, which makes me think I might be wrong. But at the same time, the evidence of having redirected you to Peeps and him getting the same message as the cop is hard to ignore. Hopefully if your lynch is wrong then at least I will have someone else to look at. It's just a shame you never actually protected any of us (like, you know, the cop) to help change my mind.

You keep saying this but where is the validation that he is a protector?

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Good. That's the whole bloody point! If what I was saying was obvious to everyone regardless then I either wouldn't say it, or would say it so bluntly and not bother being cryptic about it. You said you thought you knew anyway, so I don't understand the aggressive vote casting and me needing to spill it. If you thought I was a target switcher then you could have surely followed the chain of events that I typed above...leading to the most likely conclusion that I'm putting forward the taser guy. There's no evidence that he even is a protector? That's like saying a crime is easy to solve when there are no clues. I wouldn't really say he gave any hints either, since someone saying their power being known is a bad thing could pretty much apply to any role. It definitely was. Look again at your quote: I'm sorry, but that's so clearly a follow on to the comment I made. It's just not something you say unless it's pretty heavily hinted to you in the first case that that's the case - which indeed, it was. You can argue that you didn't mean that, but that's certainly how your words come across. Lastly, Jonnas I'd like to know that now that you know Animal's the taserer (something you initially argued against), why you still aren't voting Animal? Cube said this: So in a way, that's something substantial about them both. Good point! I forgot about that... ok, so I don't think you roleblocked EEVIL. We've just got to remember that some people appear to have more than one ability when we come to our conclusions.

I was unforgiving of Jonnas because all the information was there, but he said it anyway (then demanded my targets at vote point). Once he knew in his head I was the target switcher he surely realised that I knew Animal went to you, since I was responsible. You said you were tasered when Animal went to you (and Animal admitted to be being a RB who was redirected). RBing Jimbob was scummy, and it was done by taser. After all that, it seems oddly hostile that he ever dropped a vote on me, and weirder still that he hasn't laid one down on Animal. I'm having it the way of "you're the only guy we know nothing about yet". Nothing personal. What, and drop the lynch on Animal? Also who would follow? Sure, we don't have anything on you to lynch you, but that doesn't mean we should ignore the fact you have put nothing forward while nearly everyone else has. Maybe. We have seen a town version of a booster already... We're trying to find out why EEVIL was stopped. Can you stop people directly?

U wot m8? I wouldn't say he called me out... if you look back I said "I am very strongly of the belief that Animal targeted Peeps the other day.". That was obvious enough that Jonnas's next line in response to me was "Oh, so you were the redirector this entire time?" It was obvious enough what I was saying for him to reply in such a way - like "oh, so it was you" rather than "are you the switcher?" Just going through the list of what people have claimed... Are you the booster or can you pick/copy powers? Saying you're one of them is good enough.