triforce_keeper Posted May 10, 2006 Posted May 10, 2006 Ok i am having a new laptop in about 1 month so please can you people decide on which one would be best for me? Ok i need a laptop that can play the latest games out for windows, i want it speedy, and just needs to be a great laptop i would really apperciate it if you guys helped me. I have picked this one out that i have set the specs on. Please say another laptop or say which things I should configure: [1] Area-51® m5700 Display: Alienware® m5700 17" WideXGA 1280 x 800 LCD - Xeno Grey Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition UK with SP2 Warranty: Aliencare Free Phone 1-Year 24/7 Warranty AlienRespawn: Alienware® Respawn Recovery Kit Processor: Intel® Celeron® M 370 1.5GHz 1MB L2 Cache 400MHZ FSB Memory: 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 PC-4200 533MHz - 2x512MB Video Card: 256MB NVIDIA GeForce™ Go 6800 System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 60GB 5400 RPM SATA CD/DVD/RW: CD-Burner: 24x10x24x CD-RW / 8x DVD Combo w/Software Sound Card: Intel® High-Definition Audio (24-bit, 192Khz) with surround sound Keypad: Mobile Keypad - English Communications: Integrated 10/1000Mb Gigabit Ethernet & 56K V.92 Modem Wireless Network Card: Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200 network connection Floppy Drive: USB Floppy Drive Optional Mouse: Logitech® MX™518 Gaming-Grade™ Optical Mouse AlienInspection: AlienInspection - Exclusive Integration and Inspection - £50 Value - FREE! Free T-Shirt: Alienware® T-Shirt - Black - XL Free Desktop Enhancements: Exclusive AlienGUIse Theme Manager Free Alienware Mousepad : Free Custom Alienware® fUnc Mousepad (a £10 value) http://www.alienware.co.uk/product_detail_pages/Area-51_m5700/area-51m_features.aspx?SysCode=PC-EU-LT-A51M5700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT this is at the price of £1,045.00. thnx in advance :p
Shotgun2k Posted May 13, 2006 Posted May 13, 2006 mate, feign dyslexia and you won't need to BUY a laptop
christophicus Posted May 13, 2006 Posted May 13, 2006 ^^^ yeah but they are hardly going to give you a top aof the range laptop,you'll probably only get what you need. You dont want to get a laptop with a pentium celeron,youll want to get a pentium M if you can,or whatever that dual core version is called (i think its core duo).Although Alienware do great laptops/pcs you are going to be paying extra for the name ant style so have a look at other companies and compare prices.I think Evesham do decent laptops and scan.co.uk might aswell. How much money have you got to spend??
triforce_keeper Posted May 14, 2006 Author Posted May 14, 2006 well I really dont know anything about specs so please can you pick a laptop from one of thise sites? and I think I can spend up to £1300 Operating system Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 Processor AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology MT-37 Hard disk 80GB 5400rpm hard disk Graphics 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics Screen 15.4'' WXGA X-Bright wide screen display (1280x800) Audio Built-in audio and speakers CD/DVD Rewriter DVD/CD-RW/Dual Layer DVD-RW drive Network card 10/100/1000 LAN Wireless Mini PCI 802.11bg (54Mbps) LAN & bluetooth Modem v90 56k modem I/O ports 4xUSB 2, Firewire, VGA, TV Out, DVI, PCMCIA, Express Card Battery 9 cell Li-Ion battery (life up to 3 hrs approx.) Standard software Microsoft Works 8 Roxio Easy Media Creator 7 Smart card reader 6 in 1 card reader (SD, MMC, MS/Pro, XD, SM) Dimensions 358mmx259mmx33mm Weight 2.9kg Misc Fingerprint reader FREE Vodafone 3G/GPRS Mobile Connect data card Warranty Gold 3 year warranty - 1st & 2nd year in-home service (parts & labour). 3rd year return-to-base (parts & labour). National rate telephone support & BigFix pre-emptive support Digital camera 1.3M Pixel camera with rotation I have found this one for around £1000 is it any good?
The fish Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 No, the processor is too slow. Never buy a laptop for gaming, the processors are too damn slow, and only have L2 caches of 126K. Get an ok-ish laptop, and get a PC to roast games on. If you foget to buy a fan, you can roast games in them... I recomend http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk
triforce_keeper Posted May 15, 2006 Author Posted May 15, 2006 the fish i havent got THAT much money to spend! and i need a laptop because i go to my dads etc. if everyone says so i will have to get a desktop.
christophicus Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 How often do you go to your dads?? Every second weekend?? Im not quite sure what you mean when you say you havent got that much money.Desktop computers are much better value for money then laptops. The fish is not really correct when he says that laptop processors are too slow. For a good few months now companies have been able to make laptops that come very close to top of the line desktops And actually use bog standard desktop processors. Pentium M's/Core duo are as good if not better for playing games clock for clock when compared to Athlon 64's and even more so when compared to Pentium 4's/d's. For this reason if possible i would change your procssor to a core duo if you can afford it. Also nVidea make a mobile version of the Geforce 7900 and i think its the GTX modle too. A company (I think Alienware) have even just brought out SLI laptops so there is deffinatly no weakness when it comes to GPU's for laptops.
The fish Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 OK, it's not so much that they're too slow, but the L2 cache ain't big enough for games. You need an 512K one at least. Celeron's and the mobile technology AMD proccesors' caches are only 128K-too small for games, unless you are prepared to wait 5 minutes everytime you enter and new room for the scenery to load.
Sanchez Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 If it really has to be a laptop, something like this wouldn't be the worst idea: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=353104 Core Duo at 1.8Ghz and an Ati X1600. Would run Half life 2 easily, probably oblivion on medium settings.
triforce_keeper Posted May 18, 2006 Author Posted May 18, 2006 If it really has to be a laptop, something like this wouldn't be the worst idea: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=353104 Core Duo at 1.8Ghz and an Ati X1600. Would run Half life 2 easily, probably oblivion on medium settings. Hmm anyone want to comment on that? I think its a pretty decent laptop for £1200+
christophicus Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 It seems fairly capable look for some reviews on the web.Also i dont know how good that gpu is.
christophicus Posted May 20, 2006 Posted May 20, 2006 check out th dell xps laptops,they are suposed to be good.
Sanchez Posted May 22, 2006 Posted May 22, 2006 http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/xps_m1710?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs Wow, that's a very capable system if you can afford the extra 300 pounds for it.
Dieter Posted May 22, 2006 Posted May 22, 2006 OK, it's not so much that they're too slow, but the L2 cache ain't big enough for games. You need an 512K one at least. Celeron's and the mobile technology AMD proccesors' caches are only 128K-too small for games, unless you are prepared to wait 5 minutes everytime you enter and new room for the scenery to load. I payed 950 euros (or 646 pounds) for my Acer and it has a AMD Turion ML-34 64 bit CPU running at 1.8 Ghz with 1 MB of L2 cache. Therefore, you are wrong about mobile cpu cache being too small. I play for example HL2 everything High or better with 2*AA at 1280*800 resolution with nil stuttering and I didn't have to sell a kidney to pay for it. It is true, however, that desktops still offer more bang for your buck. But I love the mobility ^_^
triforce_keeper Posted May 22, 2006 Author Posted May 22, 2006 http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/xps_m1710?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs Wow, that's a very capable system if you can afford the extra 300 pounds for it. too high in price can anyone comment on the one just up above from scan.co.uk?
Nintendo Fan Posted May 22, 2006 Posted May 22, 2006 I got a base unit of my mate for £200 Brand new. It's fujitsu Siemens. ADM Sempron Processor 3200+ running at 2 Ghz nVIDIA Graphics card 256 Mb 1 Gb ram 160 Hard Drive >Triforce Keeper, if you like it i could ask my mate if he has anymore.
SpinesN Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 Drop the games and get an X60 https://www-1.ibm.com/products/hardware/configurator/na/ui/launchTopLevelConfig.wss?base=170947U&cntry=840〈=en_US&launch_type=newconfig&ratetype=D&real_time_c1=USD&real_time_t1=false&site_type=public&display_availability=true&lenovo=true&display_leasing=true&cancel_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww-131.ibm.com%2Fwebapp%2Fwcs%2Fstores%2Fservlet%2FGenericApplicationError%3F%26storeId%3D10000001 Also that bit about the cache was just plain wrong. The pentium 1 was available with 2MB of L2 cache... why not get that >_>
triforce_keeper Posted May 23, 2006 Author Posted May 23, 2006 I got a base unit of my mate for £200 Brand new. It's fujitsu Siemens.ADM Sempron Processor 3200+ running at 2 Ghz nVIDIA Graphics card 256 Mb 1 Gb ram 160 Hard Drive >Triforce Keeper, if you like it i could ask my mate if he has anymore. which nvidia graphics card? base unit?
Sanchez Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 That would be a good deal, depending on the card model. If it's good then get it and put in another stick of RAM and you should be good to go. Hmm, actually a sempron... It's like the AMD version of celeron but not as bad. Say nintendo fan, i'm pretty interested in that laptop, if you can get me that by the end of june i'll buy. I wouldn't mind that it's slow, i'm going to spain and I need something to play music and generally entertain myself with while i'm there(and not at the beach). Also, can i get the model number? EDIT: After doing some research, i suspect it's either this: http://www.fujitsu-siemens.co.uk/home/products/notebooks/amilo_a_1650.html or this: http://www.fujitsu-siemens.co.uk/home/products/notebooks/amilo_a_1645.html laptop. ED2: Actually, neither are viable options, *keeps looking*
mike-zim Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 yeah same here that looked a formidable lap top for a dirt cheap price.
triforce_keeper Posted May 23, 2006 Author Posted May 23, 2006 If it really has to be a laptop, something like this wouldn't be the worst idea: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=353104 Core Duo at 1.8Ghz and an Ati X1600. Would run Half life 2 easily, probably oblivion on medium settings. please can someone comment on this :wink: im interested :P
triforce_keeper Posted May 24, 2006 Author Posted May 24, 2006 [1] Aurora™ 5500 Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional UK with SP2 Warranty: AlienCare 1-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return Chassis: Alienware® Full-Tower Case - Space Black Chassis Upgrades: AlienIce™ 2.0 Video Cooling System for Alienware case Power Supply: Enermax EG701AX-VE (W) 600 Watt Power Supply SLI ready Motherboard: Alienware® nForce™4 SLI™ Chipset Motherboard PCI Express Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 3500+ Processor with HyperTransport Technology Memory: 1GB Low Latency DDR PC-3200 at 400MHz - 2 x 512MB Video Card: Dual 256MB PCI-Express x16 NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7600 GT - SLI Enabled System Drive: 160 GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7,200 rpm w/ 8MB Cache - Quantity 1 Optical Drive One: 16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Recorder Sound Card: Integrated High-Performance 7.1 Surround Sound with S/PDIF and Coaxial Digital Outputs Network Card: Integrated High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (DSL-ready) Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Drive - Black Monitor: (None) Keyboard: Logitech Internet Keyboard UK - Space Black Mouse: Microsoft® Basic Optical Mouse Black AlienInspection: AlienInspection - Exclusive Integration and Inspection - £50 Value - FREE! AlienWiring: AlienWiring - Exclusive Internal Wire Management - £50 Value - FREE! Free T-Shirt: Alienware® T-Shirt - Black - XL Free Desktop Enhancements: Exclusive AlienGUIse Theme Manager Free Alienware Mousepad : Free Custom Alienware® fUnc Mousepad this comes at around £1,200. anyone wanna comment? and see if i can change anything about it?
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