Hero-of-Time Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Cheers for the schooling, Ashley. Yeah, I'm getting Wii Play and Wii Party mixed up. Too many Wii ( insert mini game collection ) games out there. So Wii Party did 8 million yet Wii Play Motion bombed. Were they both released in the same year and if so which one came first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Mario & Sonic, while developed by Sega, is funded and published by Nintendo. Sonic Lost World is also being published by Nintendo, but doesn't really count Sega published the Mario & Sonic games outside of Japan and are publishing Lost World in Japan and America. Also, @Hero\-of\-Time, Wii Party worked with standard Wii Remotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rummy Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Cheers for the schooling, Ashley. Yeah, I'm getting Wii Play and Wii Party mixed up. Too many Wii ( insert mini game collection ) games out there. I almost made the same mistake myself :p Tbh of all the people I know, I don't think I know anyone with Wii Party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Also, @Hero\-of\-Time, Wii Party worked with standard Wii Remotes. Ah, of course. I remember now. It came as a separate game and also as a bundle with the wiimote. Wii Play Motion just came as a bundle due to it need motion+ to play it. I almost made the same mistake myself :p Tbh of all the people I know, I don't think I know anyone with Wii Party Yeah, I bought both Play games but I never bothered with Party at all, nor did any of my mates. Of course they gave up on the Wii during the twilight years so it was no surprise they didn't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serebii Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Sega published the Mario & Sonic games outside of Japan and are publishing Lost World in Japan and America. Also, @Hero\-of\-Time, Wii Party worked with standard Wii Remotes. Well Nintendo lists it in their first party games so I count it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 You don't realise how bland Nintendo really are until you see their release schedule for the next year. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 You don't realise how bland Nintendo really are until you see their release schedule for the next year. Ouch. Please Understand. Nah, but seriously, i'm quite happy with the rest of the years line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happenstance Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Looking at that list there are a couple I would buy when they went cheap (or I guess if they went cheap considering how annoying Nintendo are with keeping their games full price) but nothing I would buy straight away. Certainly nothing that excites me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Looking at that list there are a couple I would buy when they went cheap (or I guess if they went cheap considering how annoying Nintendo are with keeping their games full price) but nothing I would buy straight away. Certainly nothing that excites me. I can see why people are disappointed as a lot of the offerings are just tried and tested formulas. I know most my mates have now moved on from gaming on Nintendo machines ( i'm probably the last man standing ) and nothing on the list excites them at all. Although one of them is looking forward to the new Smash Bros. but that's not till next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happenstance Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) I can see why people are disappointed as a lot of the offerings are just tried and tested formulas. I know most my mates have now moved on from gaming on Nintendo machines ( i'm probably the last man standing ) and nothing on the list excites them at all. Although one of them is looking forward to the new Smash Bros. but that's not till next year. It would be nice if Smash Bros could get back the enjoyment I had when playing Melee, I would consider getting the 3DS version then but for some reason Brawl just didnt click with me which has left me a bit "meh" on any future games. Edited July 12, 2013 by Happenstance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 I would be nice if Smash Bros could get back the enjoyment I had when playing Melee, I would consider getting the 3DS version then but for some reason Brawl just didnt click with me which has left me a bit "meh" on any future games. Yeah, it was the same for me and my mates. We played the hell out of Melee and always had tournaments every Friday night. I also unlocked every trophy in the game, which took an age. When Brawl came out it just wasn't the same but I attribute this to us being slightly older and not being able to get to together as much. It didn't help matters that the online was a mess, so we couldn't hook up that way either. It wasn't just the multiplayer mode either. I never did finish the single player story mode, even though I though the cutscenes were fantastic. Despite all of this I cannot wait to get my hands on the Wii U version. MEGAMAN FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liger05 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I'm not sure the release list from nintendo can be criticised too much. They need to get the Wii U sales up and that means releasing those franchises that have a history of selling well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) I think it's about balancing franchises that historically sell well and creating fresh ones. Sony this year, is the perfect example; The Last of Us, Beyond, Puppeteer (which the kind of perfect little idea I once expected from Nintendo) and Knack as well as dependable franchises like Killzone, God of War Ascension, Infamous, GT6 and Ratchet & Clank. Even Microsoft have done this, though to a lesser (and my opinion less successful) effect. When it comes down to it, that gulf in quantity is pretty staggering. Especially when you consider that Sony can happily depend on third parties and Nintendo quite clearly cannot. More than anyone, it should be Nintendo that is churning out these games. I think Nintendo can easily be criticised in terms of how unvaried and risk averse their release list is. I also think they can be easily criticised for not investing their war chest properly and growing as a company. If this was the late 90s, this release list would be acceptable. It feels like Nintendo are living in another time. They have barely globalised, and that is ABSURD. As far as I'm aware, they don't have a global submission process for games. (I don't only have criticisms for Nintendo, Microsoft's US-centric approach to the industry is...utterly nauseating, but sadly they can get away with it...for now.) Edited July 12, 2013 by Daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rummy Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I'm not sure the release list from nintendo can be criticised too much. They need to get the Wii U sales up and that means releasing those franchises that have a history of selling well. I'm with Daft on this. They're being too reliant on what sells well, without enough new innovation. They need both, cater to everyone. Here's a crazy though I had yesterday - what if they didn't try to sell Pikmin 3. i.e. not relying on it to bring in money(which I believe they are, thinking 'it'll sell, we'll make money) - why not instead of Nintendoland bundles and stuff, they put Pikmin 3 in there. You buy the Wii U, you get Pikmin 3 with it. I'm sure I know at least one or two people who would get roped in by a bundle like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liger05 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) I think it's about balancing franchises that historically sell well and creating fresh ones. Sony this year, is the perfect example; The Last of Us, Beyond, Puppeteer (which the kind of perfect little idea I once expected from Nintendo) and Knack as well as dependable franchises like Killzone, God of War Ascension, Infamous, GT6 and Ratchet & Clank. Even Microsoft have done this, though to a lesser (and my opinion less successful) effect. When it comes down to it, that gulf in quantity is pretty staggering. Especially when you consider that Sony can happily depend on third parties and Nintendo quite clearly cannot. More than anyone, it should be Nintendo that is churning out these games. I think Nintendo can easily be criticised in terms of how unvaried and risk averse their release list is. I also think they can be easily criticised for not investing their war chest properly and growing as a company. If this was the late 90s, this release list would be acceptable. It feels like Nintendo are living in another time. They have barely globalised, and that is ABSURD. As far as I'm aware, they don't have a global submission process for games. (I don't only have criticisms for Nintendo, Microsoft's US-centric approach to the industry is...utterly nauseating, but sadly they can get away with it...for now.) I dont dispute that and would hope there is other 1st party stuff on the horizon however for now the risk would be too high and in a sense sending games out to die. They are in a major hole with the Wii U and the only way the install base is going to get up is to get games out that have a chance of selling systems. Going forward there needs to be a real change from within as this bubble which nintendo operate in is the problem. Ignoring market trends and a refual to produce a more diverse broad range of software cant go on forever. I look at this generation as one which lasted too long and by the time the Wii U was released the market was ripe for a new console. Its just nintendo produced the wrong console to take advantage of that. Edited July 12, 2013 by liger05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 But you're implying (I think) that this is them reacting to the situation; their strategy has been terrible for years and they are pretty much reaping what they sowed. Nintendo's problems won't be fixed any time soon, it takes a lot of time between implementation and real world effect - and at the moment we don't even know if they're trying to implement change at all or if they are simply delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Well New Super Luigi U retail for one. It counts. Love how people constantly treat New Super Luigi U as a new game and trash it for not adding loads of new features. It is DLC -_- http://www.n-europe.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1581602&postcount=9945 You can't have it both ways! Should it count as a new retail game or is it DLC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 You're ignoring the facts Rowan. Technically it counts because it is on the list AND it is DLC. #havingmycakeandeatingit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 UK charts: The Last of Us holds first for 5th week running The Last of Us has held firm at top of the UK charts for a fifth consecutive week, marking another strong week for Naughty Dog’s tale of post apocalyptic survival. The game retained its position despite challenges from 3DS entries Animal Crossing: New Leaf and newcomer Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Bros, which debuted at third. Here’s the chart in full: 1: The Last of Us – Sony 2: Animal Crossing: New Leaf – Nintendo 3. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Bros – Nintendo 4. FIFA 13 – EA 5. Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition – Microsoft 6. Far Cry 3 – Ubisoft 7. Call of Duty: Black Ops II – Activision 8. Assassin’s Creed III – Ubisoft 9. Tomb Raider – Square Enix 10. Aliens: Colonial Marines – Sega 11. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – Legendary – Bethesda Softworks 12. LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes – Warner Bros 13. Need for Speed: Most Wanted – EA 14. Luigi’s Mansion 2 – Nintendo 15. The Sims 3: Island Paradise 16. Deadpool – Activision 17. Grand Theft Auto IV – Rockstar 18. God of War: Ascension – Sony 19. Injustice: Gods Among Us – Warner Bros 20: LEGO: The Lord of the Rings – Warner Bros Going strong! Very impressive. Especially for an exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dem0- Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Animal Crossing went up 2 places, Debut in 3rd for M&L is great! Also, not to forget Luigi's Mansion 2 which is still in the top charts, but it also went up 5 places from last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liger05 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 M&L did ok but dont think it sold more than 10k. I dont think the last one did that well over here though so given that yes a good start. Yikes UK Retail: Wii U sells 179K Software Units over 6 Months. http://gamasutra.com/view/news/19613...DS_rallies.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serebii Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Preliminary sales for last week in Japan have come through Tsutaya. We'll see exact figures on Wednesday Pikmin 3 is sitting at #1 with at least 100,000 sold in just two days. New Super Luigi U retail is at #7 with the same. No idea about the console, seeing as the White Premium Set was also released that day. The rebound begins though Edited July 15, 2013 by Serebii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Preliminary sales for last week in Japan have come through Tsutaya. We'll see exact stuff on Wednesday Pikmin 3 is sitting at #1 with at least 100,000 sold in just two days. New Super Luigi U is at #7 with the same. No idea about the console, seeing as the White Premium Set was also released that day. The rebound begins though Possibly. We need to see if Nintendo still has any console pulling power when it comes to the west. In terms of the UK they are really going to have to do something special to get people on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serebii Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Possibly. We need to see if Nintendo still has any console pulling power when it comes to the west. In terms of the UK they are really going to have to do something special to get people on board. I just hope they actually do stuff with the shifted marketing budget, as that's part of the reason nobody knows about it here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 I just hope they actually do stuff with the shifted marketing budget, as that's part of the reason nobody knows about it here It's going to be an interesting period that's for sure. From now until Christmas we have a pretty big release every month and if that doesn't help the Wii U sales pick up then I don't know what will. I'm still expecting a price cut to happen once the new consoles arrive and to tie in with the new Wii U software. Even a new Mario bundle or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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