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Zechs Merquise Newbie

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First off, it's pretty dumb to judge value on gaming hours. OK if the game is 2 hours long then that's a let down, but then again, if it was 2 hours it would probably had a lower price. Value should be based on enjoyment or the experience you had with the game. If you played it for 200 hours I'd say you're losing out because the game is forcing you to reach that ending unlock or stat, it's almost irresponsible to make Joe think that it's OK to spend all that time reaching the end.

 

Plus you'd be kidding yourself if you enjoyed all 200 of those hours, I'd say almost half that time was frustration.

 

Well it's not dumb at all, if you buy something for £30 or £40 or even £55 and get 200 hours out of it, even if half of them aren't the best thing ever, it's still great value for money - it's 55p an hour at the highest price!

 

If you go to the cinema and see a film there's no guarentee it'll be good and for the two hours you're in there it costs a lot more for the ticket and a lot lot more if you include the rip off popcorn and drinks!

 

I would say any game you're playing 6 months after you got it and have ploughed dozens of hours into is value for money. In that way games offer far more lifespan and value than DVDs, books or comics as usually with a book or DVD you'll use it once, maybe twice. A DVD is around £10 and even if you watch it twice that's £2.50 per hour.

 

If I play a game for 200 hours, it's because it's a great game.

 

And I always think it's insulting in a way that people think businesses don't operate for profit. The businesses deal with millions of pounds be it revenue or the value of the capital and you don't think they know what they're doing it for? Plus I'd like to think that some developers care about the quality of their games so it's understandable they like to spend a bit more on making sure that the standard is raised.

 

Well clearly some don't and the many developers have been making huge loses precisely because they have failed to understand the changing shape of the market, SONY and EA are two prime examples.

 

Thats what saddens me the most, everyone will pick up copies of the inferior console versions. :(

 

Yes. I agree that dual analogue is a worse experience than mouse keyboard, but keeping up with PC tech is a very expensive thing.

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You lose, I'm sorry but again I will say again that hours don't mean everything. If you look at it in terms of length then obviously games come across better, but I'd still rather have watched The Dark Knight (or any great film) than play Cod for 200 hours. It's what you get from the experience.

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You lose, I'm sorry but again I will say again that hours don't mean everything.

He losses because he spent all those hours on a game and enjoyed the game a lot?....I don't get it :wtf:

 

So in the end the game goes up the price, people will still buy it and some people now won't and will wait for the price to go down and shit, if less people don't buy it, it might just have to go down in price to get some sales. That's all there is too it, Activision are greedy, Ubi-soft are greedy, EA are greedy, Sony are greedy, Nintendo are greedy, Microsoft are greedy and every other game company are greedy. Hence why it's called a business, if they continue making great games that I enjoy, I'll buy them, just like how if I enjoy a movie or a book, I'll buy it.

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No because he thinks that hours mean value. I know people spend excessive amounts of time on it but it doesn't equate to value. It's just one factor.

Ellmeister Newbie

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No because he thinks that hours mean value. I know people spend excessive amounts of time on it but it doesn't equate to value. It's just one factor.

 

Give it up, you are fighting a losing battle, he isn't necessarily equating hours to value, all he is saying is the game was worth the 200 hours he put in and reckons that a game is worth £55 if it stands up to that level.

 

I for one agree. Considering I'm splitting the money with housemates this won't be so expensive, but I'm sure Iill enjoy this so much I'd pay the £55 rather than spend that money on stuff that won't preoccupy me or give me as much joy as COD5.

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Let's argue for the sake of arguing, that's always fun.

 

The price hike will make no difference whatsover to me, as it will still be more than worth its price tag. Can't get my head around why you would want the prestige edition though?

Zechs Merquise Newbie

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Can't get my head around why you would want the prestige edition though?

 

Night. Vision. Goggles. They let you follow people. At Night.

 

But seriously, most of the big game franchises do things like this now. Collectors love it and will pay through the nose for it, what's more it boosts pre-orders and generates publicity.

 

I love little extras like metal cases and the like, but this is a bit over the top, but it's still very cool.

Ramar Newbie

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ahahahaahahaha

 

Thats quite the counter argument you've got there Dan.

 

Lets look at it this way;

  • Its cheaper on PC (only £30 on GAME's website)
  • No subscription such as Xbox Live (unless Activision add a multiplayer subscription)
  • Ventrillo or teamspeak2 are far superior to any of the voice comms on the consoles
  • Superior control input with keyboard and mouse

dwarf Newbie

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Keyboard&mouse vs Analogue is just preference. Ok it's faster with a mouse but on an even playing field it doesn't matter and I like holding a controller. It's not like the keyboard and mouse were designed with games in mind.

 

I'd order it:

Wii-mote > Analogue controller > Keyboard & mouse. IMO

Dyson Newbie

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My biggest gripe with PC gaming is the unlevel playing field. Everyone's got different tech and it's extremely easy to hack most things. I think I've really been converted to console gaming.

Zechs Merquise Newbie

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ahahahaahahaha

 

What is funny is the thought that anyone would consider dual analogue more responsive tham mouse keyboard input.

 

Thats quite the counter argument you've got there Dan.

 

Lets look at it this way;

  • Its cheaper on PC (only £30 on GAME's website)
  • No subscription such as Xbox Live (unless Activision add a multiplayer subscription)
  • Ventrillo or teamspeak2 are far superior to any of the voice comms on the consoles
  • Superior control input with keyboard and mouse

 

You're right on all counts, the only thing that puts me off with PC gaming is the initial price of a powerful PC and the fact that the people playing are often super hardcore gamers making it a very high end playing field.

 

If I had the amount of free time I'd like to have then I would get more practice in, but ultimately I have other commitments which prevent me from becoming an uber gamer.

The fish Newbie

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Nice, AC-130's are gonna be hell of a lot of fun.

 

For my fellow weapon nuts, that video was the first the show the AT4 (the rocket launcher used against the AC-130) and the SCAR.

The fish Newbie

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Sorry what was the perk in that? The machine gun thing?

 

Did you not notice the plane flying around in the sky, and the stuff suddenly blowing up? Not to mention the in-plane IR viewpoint?

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