Daft Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Salvation isn't a reboot. After the holocaust that was T3, I'll consider it a reboot.
Cube Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 After the holocaust that was T3, I'll consider it a reboot. From what I've heard, Salvation isn't a whole lot better. Still, luckily they can be ignored, thanks to TSCC erasing T3 (and therefore all the Future War films).
flameboy Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 For the most part yes T3 was tosh compared to the other 2 but I think one thing it did really well was the ending. I thought it was quite poignant and John's realisation was a great moment. Although its premise that Judgement Day is inevitable did unwrite all that was created in the second film... I think the biggest problem with Salvation is it misses the point of what made the terminator films great. Yes the odd flashes of war in the other films were awesome but it was the fear the potential of this war created that made the films so great. That suspense that what was being played out now had an effect on that awful future. Salvation kinda plays its hand with this from the start with it being in the midst of the war. The trailers all look shite as well... Don't even get me started on the scrapped leaked ending to Salvation either...what a canon fucker that would have been...
Gio001 Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) After the awesome first terminator film the followups became too politically correct / mainstream lots of shooting but no (edit little ) killing. A bit A teamish. Better special effects but no soul. the same happened to Robocop after the 1st film. Edited May 24, 2009 by Gio001
flameboy Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 After the awesome first terminator film the followups became too politically correct / mainstream lots of shooting but no (edit little ) killing. A bit A teamish. Better special effects but no soul. the same happened to Robocop after the 1st film. What's political correctness got to do with it? I can see the arguement for mainstream though. Although I do not agree with, the nuclear holocaust overtones and the relatively bleak endings to both T2 (Arnie getting lowered into the pit of molten steel second greatest tear jerker after ET "dieing") and T3 stops them from quite being mainstream. The popular cult rise of the terminator as a figure did lend itself to this more mainstream idea. I get the sense Salvation is trying to be a war film in the vein of apocalypse now or something but really it is just a dumb action war film with some Terminator lore shoved in.
Shorty Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 For the most part yes T3 was tosh compared to the other 2 but I think one thing it did really well was the ending. I thought it was quite poignant and John's realisation was a great moment. Although its premise that Judgement Day is inevitable did unwrite all that was created in the second film... Surely T2 left open the idea that it was inevitable? The T2s arm is left in the machine the factory, and the original ending (a peaceful future with an old Sarah and no Judgement Day) was cut and replaced with one about the uncertainty of the future and the line "if a machine can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too". Still, I think T3 ruined everything about the series.
flameboy Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Surely T2 left open the idea that it was inevitable? The T2s arm is left in the machine the factory, and the original ending (a peaceful future with an old Sarah and no Judgement Day) was cut and replaced with one about the uncertainty of the future and the line "if a machine can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too". Still, I think T3 ruined everything about the series. Well I guess so...but they technically did rewrite history with their actions...I know the ending left it ambiguous but there was a sense that they were truly altering events throughout the film, something that T3 lacked as there was never a sense that events would change. I'm not trying to say T3 is a great film I want to make clear, just it does have some merits however slight and think one was the poignant ending.
LegoMan1031 Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 Well got this off lovefilm this morning for 360. Just completed it now. Bad game, i'm not going to miss this at all! Was easy to complete on hard though, only one or two sections had to re-try a few times which made a easy 1000G! I recommend that no-one buy this. Rent it if you really want a go.
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