arab_freak Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 "System of a Down's new album, Hypnotize, was leaked online yesterday. It was found on Demonoid (a torrent site) and another German System fan site. By tomorrow, it will be on G2 (Shareaza). It is excellent." Like some other guy said: "Good news for us, bad news for them".
Pit-Jr Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 When they name albums 'Steal this Album', they cant really get angry about it.
jayseven Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 who said they got angry about it :P I really can't imagine the band themselves would actually be too bothered.
Twozzok Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Actually, after Mezmerize got leaked, they said they were going to do everything possible to not have Hypnotize leaked, so sucks to them :P
ViPeR Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Ah well I can wait. I have two of the songs anyway as they played them live.
dukkadukka Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 just wondering, what is the moral stance most of you take on "stealing music"?
dabookerman Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 just wondering, what is the moral stance most of you take on "stealing music"? im not fussed, they get enough money as it is, it would be the same as recording of the radio right....and plus im buying the album anyway
Hostile Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 I fucking love piracy. I steal everything. If it was possible to illegally download food and water, I'd live off that.
Kurtle Squad Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 just wondering, what is the moral stance most of you take on "stealing music"? Yeah....When 'stealing' from big companies, it's not quite the same as say, stealing a handbag. I don't really like piracy though and much prefer to own the official thing. I'm least bothered about film piracy...they get anough money as it is. (That anti-piracy thing at the start of DVDs and such REALLY pisses me off)
jayseven Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Oooh.. MORAL stance ey! Well let's see. On the one hand, it is stealing. You're watching something you're supposed to pay for, you're listening to something you're supposed to pay for. Why are you supposed to pay for it? Because it's the laws we are supposed to abide by if we want to live in this society. If everyone obeyed laws without question then there would be no need to have the laws. Also, check out the credits list for a movie- that's a LOT of people who need to earn a living from these oft-pirated things. But then there's teh argument of 'education'. I mean, that whole idea that because we can listen to any music we want, we do listen to a wider range of music and learn about different styles and artists. I think an increase in music listening leads to an increase in purchasing CD's. I mean, the majority of the album's I've bought in the last 12 months were all played to death on my PC first. I think the problem is that people don't actually want to live in this society, so they have less respect for the rules. The whole idea of freedom means people express their liberty just by opposing the laws of their society, by questioning what you're told to do you reject authority. I'll stop writing now before I go too far off the point. (I was about to write about Faith and stuff...)
dukkadukka Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 emo, you always seem to end you posts just as they're getting interesting
arab_freak Posted November 13, 2005 Author Posted November 13, 2005 I agree. But hey, it's time for Emo to play wrist violin with my kitchen knife.
Tyson Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 I honestly couldn't care less about my effect on the industry as I'm sure it's minor. But then there is the fact of "if everyone thought like that." Well, I'll download it, but I'll still buy it. Edit: Wow, that was uncalled for Arab Freak.
dukkadukka Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 I agree. But hey, it's time for Emo to play wrist violin with my kitchen knife. fuck you, that's horrible.
rizz Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 This album was better than I thought it would be, still, its no SOAD or Toxicity imo. Moral stance? Hostile has it pretty much sussed :P
arab_freak Posted November 13, 2005 Author Posted November 13, 2005 fuck you, that's horrible. Learn to detect humour, k?
dukkadukka Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Learn to detect humour, k? and maybe you should learn some manners. depression is not funny, and neither are you.
Twozzok Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 The fact the RIAA and the like don't see, is the human beings sense of ownership.
#1cubeplayer Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 I'm sure they'll be pretty pissed about this. I download music and I feel guilty about it. Someone makes so much less money because of my downloads.
Pit-Jr Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 People that can afford to buy every CD they love, generally do just that. Musicians are now aware of the times they live in, thats why they do other things besides sell CD's to earn money , i.e. concerts, t-shirts, dvds, movie soundtracks, etc. Thats the music business now, any musician that plans to get rich has to be aware of the piracy issue beforehand and work around it. Even Metallica, the most vocal opponents , now have live video concert footage and mp3's for sale on their website because they realize they cant stop piracy, they must adapt to it.
rizz Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 The only reasons Metallica's record sales have gone down is because they've released crap for the last 15 years. Piracy or no piracy :P
#1cubeplayer Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 aran freak seems to think he owns r-e I second that. The only reasons Metallica's record sales have gone down is because they've released crap for the last 15 years. Piracy or no piracy :P And I second that.
Pit-Jr Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Metallica cant keep releasing And Justice for all every 2 years, though it seems thats what ppl want. At least all their albums bring something new to the table, even if they cant surpass Puppets and Justice
#1cubeplayer Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 I don't expet them to make another Ride the Lightning either. The thing is that the quality of their music has dropped considerably over these past years.
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