Charlie Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 retro-lover said: Thing is, i've never had the blue screen of death since i can remember.I never have to restart my pc except maybe if the internet cuts off (which is BT's beef), those new mac vs pc ads a bullshit. Really? I can't remember how many times I've had it, admittedly not as many since moving to XP (3 years ago maybe) but on 98 it was seriously all the time. I really can't remember on the Windows 3.1 computer (6 years ago?) but I don't seem to remember it.
Jasper Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Quote P o s t i n S h o r t(1):Blue screens of death exist, Windows is slow on most computers I know, mac does it's job well. And no, i'm not a macfan, i've been a double-user for years and these are my general impressions on both systems. retro-lover said: Thing is, i've never had the blue screen of death since i can remember.I never have to restart my pc except maybe if the internet cuts off (which is BT's beef), those new mac vs pc ads a bullshit. Those are the rare occasions. Not that i'm a total mac-fan, but I have to say: every windows computer I know has loading problems (it takes ages), doesn't respond when you're asking it to do a simple task, like trying to connect to a server and keep screens locked on your desktop without a way to delete theml - taskmanager doesn't help since loading up taskmanager takes as long as the window needs to close. I sometimes literally at there for three minutes watching Windows close a damned window. Not that there are no loading problems on mac, but since I learned to shut down photoshop when I put my laptop te sleep, it starts fast and smooth. Macs are ust fantastic computers in thaat way. Bluie screens of death were like graves to a graveyard for windows 98: ikt occasionally poped up to remind you that it isn't flawless at all. Mikcrosoft has rid of them in the past years, but many things about the OS are still very oddly put together. Yes, I know, long post again. (1) I introduced the Post in Short feature for all you lazy readers of my posts! Isn't that nice of old uncle Jasper? Post in Short will be inclujded in every long, epic, novel-like post if I feel like it. All content subject to change. Sorry, guys.
AshMat Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 Maybe it's just because i take good care of my pc. Running crap cleaner at least once a fortnight, monthly Defrags and Disk Cleanups. Etc. I didn't use it alot, but i don't think my 3.1 laptop ever had issues. Though our Windows 95 pc might've had it a few times.
Charlie Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 retro-lover said: Maybe it's just because i take good care of my pc. Running crap cleaner at least once a fortnight, monthly Defrags and Disk Cleanups. Etc. I didn't use it alot, but i don't think my 3.1 laptop ever had issues. Though our Windows 95 pc might've had it a few times. Yeah, if you keep good care of it things wont go wrong, thats why non-computer literate people get a lot of problems with computers and computer-literate people don't. The thing is, with a Mac it will work find whether you keep good care of it or not.
AshMat Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 Yes but if macs kick off like they are doing, and more people get them, you'll have non-pc literate people who treat their macs like they do pcs, and then they will screw up.
Caris Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 they wont haha, they just dont do that. Anyone who has Vista can they tell me or print screen what themes you can have for it? thanks xx
Jasper Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 retro-lover said: Yes but if macs kick off like they are doing, and more people get them, you'll have non-pc literate people who treat their macs like they do pcs, and then they will screw up. Here's the catch: I haven't taken any cleanup actions in the past year and a half on my mac and it still runs smoothly. The point is, Macs are just incredibly good systems.Not taking care of a Mac doesn't really make huge difference, not taking care of your windows every month makes the quality go down. Honestly, i'm serious about that. Quote they wont haha, they just dont do that. Anyone who has Vista can they tell me or print screen what themes you can have for it? thanks xx Get your ass on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista#Visual_styles Apparantly, it's exactly the same like in XP: one new style and all classics on top. Nothing special, then, but then again, Macs have two types: the blue one and the granite one. Pretty boring stuff.
CompSci Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 Caris said: they wont haha, they just dont do that. Anyone who has Vista can they tell me or print screen what themes you can have for it? thanks xx theres only 2 themes classic, alaa windows 2000/xp and areo (to which u can change the colour, the tranperancy settings of it as shown below)
Caris Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 Ah cheers for that mate, btw how you liking vista in terms of speed and stability(sp). And what are games like on it?
Guest Jordan Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 Stability? As long as it installs and you have a machine with a 3.0+ PC stat, you'll have zero problems. I'm running it on two machines with completely different set ups and configurations and its perfect. Games wise? Well, companies are still nailing down drivers so its around 3/4 proformance at the moment. But its still pretty good...
Caris Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 I think i speak for all when i say, how does CSS run... And HL2
Guest Jordan Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 Caris said: I think i speak for all when i say, how does CSS run... And HL2 I get 40-60 fps on CS: Source even on my shitty computer all at max settings (only 2X FFAA though) at 1440X900. I expect HL2 to be around the same.
triforce_keeper Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 W00T!!! Just ordered my Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade from Ebay for £85 including postage. Be with my Friday :D:D And its not OEM
Guest Jordan Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 You guys hear about how you can use an upgrade copy for a clean install without an XP serial?
triforce_keeper Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 Jordan said: You guys hear about how you can use an upgrade copy for a clean install without an XP serial? Annnnnd why would you wanna do that? lol
Caris Posted February 14, 2007 Posted February 14, 2007 Jordan said: You guys hear about how you can use an upgrade copy for a clean install without an XP serial? Nope, i orderd home premium oem, once there is more 64bit support ill get ultimate 64. Thats providing the DRMS arnt to bad like i heard you say.
Jasper Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Jordan said: You guys hear about how you can use an upgrade copy for a clean install without an XP serial? You can! Here's the trick: instal Vista without a Key - it will actiate a 30-day trial period, wich is avaible on the 'upgrade' disk without the need for Windows XP. Than, after you ran this '30 day upgrade' to viste, install Vista on this computer running Vista. You don't need XP for it, so install your Vista with Key on the Vista you were trialing. Here's a link: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/clean-install-workaround-for-vista-upgrade-discovered/
Bogbas Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Caris said: Nope, i orderd home premium oem, once there is more 64bit support ill get ultimate 64. Thats providing the DRMS arnt to bad like i heard you say. At the moment it's not a big issue because HD content isn't really mainstream yet. I just plan on using a pc as a heart of a home theater system. So not being able to use digital sound outputs for hd movies and the need to get HDCP equipped hardware puts me down. As for games, microsoft has stated that it expects 10-15% decrease in game performance compared to xp (it was because of the new windows driver model I think). I don't think that the graphics drivers for vista are fully optimised yet. But the performance will get better when amd and nvidia get their drivers working better.
Caris Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 So Vista will be fine for music? Cause i can live without downlaoding movies, i just need my music.
Shino Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Caris said: So Vista will be fine for music? Cause i can live without downlaoding movies, i just need my music. Everything works just fine, the only real problem right now is fiding compatible drivers for Vista AND 64bits.
Shino Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Choze said: Newer games with DX10 hardware actually get performance boosts in Vista. Yes, ALL of them.
Caris Posted February 19, 2007 Posted February 19, 2007 I'm on Vista now, put my Mac downstairs for abit see what i make of this, so far im really impressed but i guess only time will tell if it is really good or not.
Ten10 Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 This is probably old news now, but has anyone heard about the work around that allows you to clean install vista using an upgrade version of the software saving you about £100? Microsoft say if you do this its against the terms and conditions, most people say "We don't care."
Jasper Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 Ten10 said: This is probably old news now, but has anyone heard about the work around that allows you to clean install vista using an upgrade version of the software saving you about £100? Microsoft say if you do this its against the terms and conditions, most people say "We don't care." Perform an isntall without key (trial version will install) and then run the install with key, running on vista. See previous post. Or it refers to how to do it if you do'nt have XP.
McPhee Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 Just installed Vista. All i can say is what a breath of fresh air! Ive been stuck with Sabayon Linux for months, and although the Sabayon boys are doing a cracking job the OS was just too darn complicated (more a Linux problem in general). I really am impressed with Vista, running Home Premium but with Aero turned off because my comp cant handle it. It looks good and is running well, even though half my software is being emulated (seems to be a lack of Vista versions around ATM). Only problem ive had so far is getting the WiFi to work, using a USB dongle until i can get the built in card to work. More down to Acer than Microsoft, i need a certain driver for the 'button' on the front of the laptop that controls the Antenna.
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