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Yeah, I was hoping they'd have released it for this, too. Seems a bit weird that they haven't.

It isn't just delayed third party titles that cause issues, it's the gimped third party games. Due to the Wii U "not selling", most third parties just don't put the effort in to optimise the games for the system. As such, you'll see frame rate issues like with Arkham Origins, missing features like with Arkham Origins, and even missing DLC such as with Assassin's Creed 4. It makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Console doesn't sell. Third parties say they support the console. Third parties don't put full features into their games. People don't buy them. Third parties complain their games don't sell. Hell, it happened with EA (even though they clearly ditched the Wii U before launch) with their late, gimped, ports such as Mass Effect 3 (at full price...same price as the trilogy on the 360/PS3) which then didn't sell and caused them to say that there wasn't a market for them. With NFS which wasn't a rushed port, they undershipped it.

Take the plunge and buy it. Worth every penny

I am the complete opposite. I have never had this many games in the first year of a console's life.

You will be able to share the Nintendo Network ID from your Wii U onto the 3DS, and merge eShop balances from next month, however.

And that means the games they released are bad? Ok.

What is wrong with their software lineup? Sure, we had the drought at the start of the year, but since then...

Jeez, someone has turned pessimistic. Nintendo's not out of the race at all...the Wii U is just a blip. We know outright that they've started plans for their next console. Chill Nobody asked for Rumble...that became a staple of controllers. Typically, the things nobody asks for are the ones that stick through. Only exception is online for games...though that is killing the local multiplayer scene. My friend is having a "PS4 party" for people to come round and play next week...I have no idea what games we'll play because so few of them have local multiplayer. It's ridiculous.

You have painted the issue with perception of Nintendo games quite well. When they introduce new features or modes, they typically get dismissed as gimmicks, despite them being imaginative.

This week in Europe Wii U Sonic Lost World Demo Coaster Crazy Deluxe €6.70/£5.99 The Mysterious Cities of Gold: Secret Paths €14.99/£13.49 EDGE €1.99/£1.79 (Ends February 1, afterwards €3.99/£3.59) Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag €69.99/£55.99 LEGO Marvel Super Heroes €49.99/£44.99 LEGO Marvel Super Heroes Demo Ben 10 Omniverse 2 €44.99/£36.99 Barbie Dreamhouse Party €29.99/£29.99 Monster High 13 Wishes €29.99/£24.99 Wii U VC Brawl Brothers - SNES - €7.99/£5.49 Price Reductions Wii U Rayman Legends (Ubisoft) - €29.99/£23.99 (Permanent, was €44.99/£36.99)

This week in Europe 3DS Sonic Lost World Demo Ben 10 Omniverse 2 €34.99/£28.49 Barbie Dreamhouse Party €29.99/£24.99 The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds €44.99/£39.99 LEGO Marvel Super Heroes: Universe in Peril €39.00/£39.99 Chevrolet Camaro Wild Ride 3D €2.99/£2.50 (End December 12, afterwards €3.99/£3.30) Word Wizard 3D €2.99/£2.50 (End December 12, afterwards €3.99/£3.30) My Exotic Farm €24.99/£19.99 The Cube €7.99/£7.19 Jewel Match 3 €6.99/£5.99 Christmas Wonderland 3 €4.99/£4.49 3DS VC Donkey Kong (NES) €4.99/£4.49 3DS Video The Legend of Zelda: The Misadventures of Link - Episode 1: Tunnel Vision Price Reductions 3DS Reel Fishing Paradise 3D (Funbox Media) - €3.99/£3.59 (Permanent, was €13.99/£12.59)

Brawl Brothers SNES this week

The Wii U is 1 year old today It has been a great year, software wise, despite the drought at the start of the year. Of course, marketing and sales have been a disaster.

Both, of course :p You're right though, I probably shouldn't have included it. I apologise.

Of course it is :P Just putting things a little into perspective. It wouldn't be the first time for any of the gaming companies to miss targets

Not really. Just exclusive Pokémon: http://www.serebii.net/xy/exclusives.shtml

People saying it's all about market share...that's a load of hooey. It is important in the generation? Yes. Is it an indicator of future success? No. Look at PS2 -> PS3 PSP -> PSV Xbox -> Xbox 360 GCN -> Wii All drastic changes to the marketshare. Nintendo messed up the Wii U...that's not a question but a statement. They forgot that there are idiots around who can't tell the simplest thing. They also tried to do something new, which while amazing, is hard to explain to players without them getting their hands on it, unlike the Wiimote. Nintendo just have to ride it out, making their great games (which review higher than PS4 titles I might add) which people love them for, and turn a small profit for this generation. Is it the ideal solution? No...but it's the necessity. They could go for a slight rebrand like the PS3 did, that may help matters... Just have faith. If Nintendo make great games still, why does it matter

And I'll forever say that for as long as those specific games look generic :p

I never said the games were grey :p Nor do I ever say they look bland. I say they lack soul often, but never grey or bland.

Out of date fruit can poison your feet? Holy crap! Really you can tell by texture and consistency. If it feels normal, it's fine. If it's too soft, throw them out

Pretty sure people could rattle off a list of Nintendo games. Just did a check and those games aren't dated. Infamous isn't until March. Drive Club is just listed as "Early 2014". Daylight is a broad "Q1"...so March. Planetside 2 is just 2014 Sounds an awful lot like the Wii U line-up...sure it has a few exclusive games in March, but everything else is few and far between. Nice that it's "early year is always quiet" with Sony, but with Nintendo it's "Nintendo has a severe drought. They have failed. Iwata should be fired"

Yeah, it's a good thread and after the people got banned, it turned into a great one. --- It seems GAME's deal of £220 for the NSMBU/NSLU bundle of the Wii U comes with download codes for the full pass for Wii Sports Bowling & Wii Sports Tennis. Now that's a good bundle. Nintendo should make it a standard

So? They're doing bloody both, and they're done by different studios with Wii Party U done by one that mostly focuses on things such as that. The way you're acting is as if they delayed DKC for this game, which is absolute bollocks. It was delayed because they needed more time to work on it. It is as simple as that.

Yes, but using your logic the core audience is gone from the Wii U as well. These games are to lure people to them. Why is it that for you they can try to lure the core audience and not attempt to lure back the expanded audience? Just because that audience has shifted to smartphones does not mean it can't be done and should not be attempted.

Why would I ask them to make Wii U Music? All I'm saying is that they have as much right and logic to make Wii Party U as they do Donkey Kong Country. Just under half that, but the Wii U did better than 360 and PS3. It's why I question if it's shipped or sold-through. Shipped I'd accept willingly, but sold-through is a bit much considering several reports of stores having stock that isn't being shifted. If true, then hooray. I'm happy for Sony as the PS4 is a fantastic bit of kit, ignoring the errors and faults that people keep reporting. Will definitely pick one up when it has a game lineup that isn't generic. Though it's best not to assume that it's going to keep momentum such as this. Wii U had a fairly decent launch, selling 3m units in the first month worldwide...then it dropped off. Sony has some of the same issues the Wii U did and that is that it has a rather large drought coming until March, so I hope they do manage to keep some momentum.