Paj!

I did watch it on a small TV while in bed. Maybe it's not condusive to appreciating it. I did like it, just wasn't blown away.

The style manages to blanket the film's flaws for me. Unlike some films I've seen... :p (Ok, I'll try not to bring it up in every thread... )

While I'm no fan of the need Hollywood has to remake everything, I never quite understood Total Recall's perceived "untouchable" status. It was fun to watch, but not much more than a B-Movie with something to say. Unless that's why it's so sacred...?

You're a piece of shit.

Yeah, it's more like it's an 18 for just not compromising rather than for any one particularly mature aspect.

Money talks, trannies walk.

I say early August/Late June. Some of us live in Scotland and can't be dealing with £80 train tickets or whatever. However until 25th June I have my hall accom and on 6th I will be in possession of a flat. So with accomodation sorted, I'd be more tempted to pop down when I'm technically out of the country. I want to come! The Trion needs both parts.

(as one example. (of a terrible film I enjoy) ) (but yeah the 5 minute version I posted is a more enjoyable experience :P )

How much has Sucker Punch grossed so far? Is it a success or flop? Or somewhere in between? The studios must be nervous about their decision of director now. But obviously not if Sucker Punch brings in tha moneh. And I assume/hope Snyder won't be writing Man of Steel himself.

The characters and script of Showgirls are 100x better than Sucker Punch (everything's relative of course). That's almost indisputable. Regardless of what anyone thinks of either film as a whole (both are atrocious technically).

Yeah it's a hilarious video, and yep, better than the film. Though I would say if you enjoyed that you could still watch the film with that attitude in mind and enjoy it, like I did. You couldn't make a video like that from Sucker Punch IMO - Maybe that's the root of why I couldn't get over it's shitness. You can't make fun of it properly. I was just..cringing in the cinema. My friends and I had over hoodies over our faces at points. *shivers at the memory* :p

dr4hkon just knows greatness when he sees/hears it. He may also be a cyclon. This isn't the last song There's no violin *lies on floor, tries to get up but can't*

:/ On a script/dialogue level Showgirls cannot be compared to Sucker Punch, and I'd hope you'd agree, if you have a basic grasp of the English language. On that part there is no debate. The LACK of character and dialogue in Sucker Punch kills it right off. Even though everyone in Showgirls is some form of stereotype, they're written with intent and care, as though the writer has tried to make them compelling characters (wether or not he succeeds or fails is another matter lol!), they just more often and not slip into the cheesy side of things. (Obviously the story and overall product that IS Showgirls is something else to consider...) But yes - I can't not watch this video and laugh hysterically (positively). Life. Oh, NSFW. But yeah, amazing editing. I urge everyone in the world to watch this video. (Since realistically the film isn't worth watching unless you actively choose to, so spoil it now, who cares) ANYWAY. Yeah, no, I can't see any factor that redeems Sucker Punch. It lacks in every possible cinematic department. The end of my opinion on the matter.

I wasn't trying to pick it apart. It's faults flew out at me and all my friends. We all turned to each other cringing and laughing at the same points. I wasn't trying to take it seriously. It took itself too seriously (not COMPLETELY seriously, just too much) to be truly enjoyable for me. An example of a successful shit thing not taking itself seriously I can enjoy would be like...Batman & Robin. Or Showgirls. The premise of this film is fine. I have no problem with it. It's like a sketch for a potentially fun film. All he's done is make an extended, badly paced and realised music video full of things we've seen a million times before. It has no characters. It has no imagination (really). We've seen everything in this film before, done better. The action was a blur, nothing went in. I understand he made this script in 10 minutes (I can't fathom it taking any longer than that) but it's like he then suddenly decided it had to be more of a film, rather than an exercise in lol, which is what I wish it had been.

This one feels like it could be the actual characters.

^ I love. I often (and chair and co) try and link films together. We decided Juno is the sequel to Elektra AND Hard Candy, while Elektra is of course a sequel to Daredevil (officially) - but 13 Going On 30 is clearly a prequel to that as well. Charting the adventures of Elektra Natchios and Juno.

Well, I agree that as an idea, of course it's intentionally..whatever. What you just said. But as a cinema experience, actually watching the film, it is depressingly SERIOUS instead of not taking itself seriously. Basically, it wasn't fun. Or particularly entertaining. It was too often boring or depressing. (or plain atrocious) - for a film like this - it equals a failure to me. I dunno if I'm getting across what I thought properly, but anyway. I genuinely want to know what makes this film worth anyone's time. I don't accept "Don't take it seriously/it's just a bit of fun" because I've seen it, and I tried/I don't see it. :/ Many of the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are spot-on for me. (And one of the positive ones raised an interesting point I agreed with about the reasoning behind the semi-fetishizing/whatever of the girls, something I was trying to work out how I felt about) Anyway yeah, you all hate me and love Zack Snyder bye. EDIT: It looks like I may be going to see it again soon/this week, though I said only when it was the cheapest possible. I want to reassess it, to see what I've missed (even though I know it's nothing).

There was no evidence that this film didn't take itself seriously other than I guess, if you look at the idea from a distance, it seems kinda silly, or just for fun. Which I can appreciate. And probably why I still went to see it. There was nothing fun about the story aspects, which took themselves DREADFULLY seriously. The woeful dialogue, the shit acting...argh. How can I not take something seriously when it's trying so hard to be good, and failing? If it had focused on actually being fun or over the top or whatever, it would've worked so much better. Instead there was so much faux melodrama, clearly without a shred of intentionality behind it. I just...I wouldn't be opposed to a film that was MORE about the action scenes, or MORE about the brothel/mental asylum escape. Just don't try and tack on absolute crap "storylines" and (lack of" "characterisation"/characters into it. I 100% went in with a (relatively) open mind. I love over-the-top things - I've mentioned how much fun I found DOA, which was shit, but entertaining, and had no intention to be anything else. The action sequences were the best thing about it and they were often boring due to the amount of Snyderness through them all. FASTSLOWFASTSLOWFASTSLOWI no longer care. The choreography in them was nice.

... Filth. Oh well. Now it likes me a lot. *shrug*

Charlie Kauffman movies are stunning. Synecdoche is probably one of my fave movies ever. So much to think about. It talks about so much... *drifts off mumbling incoherently*

So does watching someone else play a videogame/have a wank Sucker Punch. I want to go back and read your views on it. Unless you haven't written them out yet. Since I trust your taste more often than not.

But it's just...I can love these kinds of films that have jokes to tell. This was just shit. Nothing about it was ACTUALLY good. The action wasn't particularly good other than a few, "Oh." mildly appealing set pieces that were on screen for about a split second. The pacing was shit, the acting a non-event (I would say shit but I blame the dialogue as much as the acting for the failure), and the dialogue immature and as I said, just served the bring the film down. I would forgive it if it weren't so poorly made. It wasn't even the story I had issue with (which some reviewers have picked up on) or the muddy waters the imagery/metaphors land themselves in. Just. It needed a sense of humour and a sense or awareness of it's own potential for camp greatness. It however had neither. No. Please. Tron Legacy was bad (more like bottom-end mediocre), but a godsend compared to this.

Got Sewaddle into a Leavanny. Ugh Happiness evolutions. Wasted a few vitamins on that mufucka too. :/ Though Leavanny's design does stun me. Now just got Woobat to evolve similarly. Shouldn't be too far off now. Then...need a few more Pokes I can technically catch but are annoying (The element monkeys. Throh, Alomomola) and then really not many more I can evolve by myself in Black. I did get a Petililililil from a random girl in a house which was a pleasant suprise.