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Surely you're not making excuses for those acts, calling them 'passionate'? I'm not making excuses for them, but they do it for a reason, that is passion, I show my passion for my team by singing as loud as I can and willing them on through the 90 minutes. Not resort the vioolence which the miniorty do. I agree to a certain extent with I'd be scared to take a young daughter to a football match, at rugby it's a non issue. because football is a passionate game, it's loud it's ferocious, but I fucking love it, thats what I live in football is a drug seriously... Fair does to you, I do like rugby and Have nothing against it, I just believe more fool you for concentrating on the bad aspects of the sport rather then the good, when the good certainly overides the bad

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Football in many places around the world (like Italy and Spain) is in shambles. Simple as that. Your argument that "more people go to football so of course there will be more idiots" is paper thin. I've been to both football and rugby matches, and if you understood the mentality of rugby, you'd know that it's the most pleasant, family orientated, friendly of sports. Just like I'm sure cricket, f1, athletics, tennis is. I don't understand the mentality of rugby, but I do not fall for the Rugby is followed by a bunch of angels either, are you saying that no bad person follows a rugby side? I think football is a family oritentated sport, you just cannot go to certain games because the rivalry is so intense...Yet Look at Wigan Atheltic, the only reason they attract supporters because it has no rivalry, if non at all. And if you have looked at my past arguments, I have ALWAYS talked about other countries and their attitude on football Why don't we hear about gangs killing policemen, hooligans and riot coppers fighting, fans wishing and chanting about opposing managers dying years ago? Yes this happens, but I'll be honest with you, it is passion, just some people show it in different/wrong ways. I do not follow really any other sport apart from football , I like seeing the national sides do well in other sports, you'd know that it's the most pleasant, family orientated, friendly of sports I'm sorry but I've travelled to Cardiff many a time and seen Liverpool lose and win finals and any football fan of any team would disagree... I have been with my father to many a game and travelled North East down South and down the East Lancs all over the place, and I tell you something now if Rugby is the most pleasant sport then It would be a hell of a sport. If Rugby is a family orientated sport then why do people kick seven shades of shite out of eachother, Now Don't tell me it is part of the game, surely taking children of a young age to see such acts is wrong? Don't tell me that isn't Pleasant or Family Orientated... Nor This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP29D6ZAY9Y

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Motion I know why you set this thread up and to be honest I can't be bothered doing another marathon... However I feel sorry for you for having such a negative opinion on a sport which Is loved by so many and admired all around the globe, I feel sorry for you that you read sensationalised news items, read the words "Homophobia" and "Racism" in football and automatically asume that such things are rife in the sport... Take for instance that article you clearly have not read anything about it... Ground regulations currently warn that "racial and other discrimination" can lead to ejection, or even arrest if it is sufficiently serious. This problem had been highlighted by the Mobile Phone incident of last season, so to prevent the players being targeted by the fans in the minority this rule has been set up... The issues which you raise which are present in football are issues that are rife present in our society...because society attends football matches Now Society attends football in it's drobes, in a cross section of society you will have "Racists" "Homophobes" General scum, however the one thing everyone in society attending a football matches has in common... Because the football fan base is it's its majority you are more likely going to pick up the scum of the earth then any other sport, however this can not be held against the sport, and what it stands for, Racism, Homophobia is not exclusive to football, it happens on our streets, and to believe that such things stem through football fans is ludicrous... I understand why you like rugby because you are less likely to pick up the scum of the earth because the sport is supported by the minority, however that does not mean, such people do not attend rugby matches because they do... People do not change when they enter a football stadium, they come as themselves and leave as themselves, they are who they are and football does not change them.... All i can say is more fool you for not seeing the pleasure that is the number 1 followed sport in the world (Apart from America)

Such shcoking news, however hopefully Italy can take a leaf out of Englands book and how we have curved Hooliganism to make it an enjoyable game for all:smile:

If such a thing happend then believe me it wouldn't be off the news..., Major hooliganism happens very rarely, the last major incident was in 2001

All have happend yes, but not any more, they very rarely happen in England anymore, but because you read something in a news article, you claim it to be correct....

Exactly, I don't appreciate being called a racist/homophobe and a chav all because I go to a football match... We are only going around in circles with Motion, and he isn't backing down, because he is to ignorant to realise that the flaws and the wrong understanding of the game of which he is posting...

Wether I have stereotyped or not is irrelevant, you are doing it now and in the argument of which we are having... I care about what you call it because it is wrong... If I called Rugby a game for pussys because all they do is feel men up and pass oval balls to eachother and is watched by snobs , I call it Snobby, how would you feel?

Motion you are not getting abused.....Please

Motion you are yet again stereotyping the sport....it's showing the ignorance and lack of knowledge you have of the sport... Believe me I AM RIGHT

Is it not possible to argue that football itself is more of a passionate participants sport than others such as Cricket and F1, and therefore necessitates an encourages the diffidence of its spectators? Nail.Head

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No you haven't said anything, you have just said how football is full of hooligans and implying football hooliganism is the epitome of how bad the country is....Well ok not that far, granted you don't like the game itself... But the stereotypical views anger me....Seriously....I am far from a chav and am neither what you have said but your feelings are so strong you believe it to be the case Motion 2000 No hard feelings...

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Their are multiple Points of view..... I understand where he is coming from, but his view point has been manufactured by the media which halts his understanding and generates a stereotypical and a hatred towards a sport he quite clearly doesn't understand.... "What you have not seen, you will never understand" Liverpool Flag...

Motion...Seriously You Do know nothing about football Boring 0-0 Scorelines says it all for me....You don't understand the game and never will,

Why won't you answer???? Maybe you never really went to one You have no idea how much I know about the sport, you have no right to tell me that I've only read up on it. You stupid little wanker, I've had enough of your holier than thou attitude. I'm telling you I know more about the sport than you think. DEAL WITH IT. .....If you did know alot about the sport then i thought you did then you would be speaking sense, not rubbish, the rubbish alot of people participating in this thread believe is the case.... You my friend are a stupid little brat who has a hissy fit everytime someone DARES to challenge your views that chavball is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Again, I don't give a fuck if you think my feelings are plastic. I think yours are plastic quite frankly. There you go, another stalemate. "They are not your own" More bullshit, keep it coming, this is funny. And I feel so sorry that your love of the game has twisted your appreciation for differing points of view. I don't believe football is the greatest thing since sliced bread, however It plays a huge role in my life, it is a passion My feelings plastic, what about the tears I cried when Liverpool Won the European Cup, is that plastic?, I'm not ashamed to admit that... You have a hatred which is blinded by sensationalism which you have read, you just hate football and are finding things to pick out at it just to make your arguement more credible, well I got news for you, it doesn't... Oh and as for the love of the game and by appreciation for differing points of view, well thats why I will never support any other team.... The Let's Kick Racism Out of Football campaign Motion 2000, do you even know what this campaign is about? It was set up to try and settle the racial differences in football, and they beat racism, racists are now banned from football matches and have been for many a year... The organisation now plans to extend its input into Eastern Europe were it is rife sadly Don't go googling stuff, which you know nothing about because it's so clearly evident

May I ask what Premiership games you have been to and what internationals? On What Evidence? You don't know nothiong about the sport,you read it up and claim you know Feelings?, your nothing more then a mouth piece, a puppet playing along to the tune of sensationalism (If their is such a word) Your feelings on the matter are plastic, they are not you own and you are simply believing what you read.... I feel sorry for someone who can have such a bad outlook on a game which is loved by so many around the world Oh Please.....Don't get upset now, you posted in a thread which I asked does anyone seriously follow football?, You replied with a point of view which was always going to be criticised, you got slated it's like someone posting that Sony is the greatest Gaming Company of all time on these boards....Imagine?