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Complaining does an awful lot, actually. Bear in mind that Nintendo have made zero sales on the Switch so far, just like Microsoft had made zero sales of the X1 when it reacted to the complaining after its reveal. Already more Switch games seem to have been announced for launch which feels like a reaction to the launch lineup complaints. So in short, be quiet. No, you asked for an apology if Nintendo do announce online features in a direct prior to launch since this would prove him wrong and you right. So, if Nintendo don't announce these features prior to launch, you will admit you were wrong, right?

And will he expect an apology if they don't?

This is ludicrous. You want people to preorder and buy your console, you explain what they're getting. It's as simple as that.

Nah man, just that I've seen you argue both sides to suit your argument.

Magnificent.

No time required on that one. Quite simply, no.

And how do you know they are? Like I said, best to wait for proper comparisons before passing judgement. They don't look like the same time of day to me. The Wii U version sunset seems further along. It would also benefit Nintendo to show the Switch off in a slightly more favourable light (ba-dum-tish) since they obviously want the Switch to sell, and this literally is the only game that is selling it at launch.

Better to wait for the proper comparisons though before passing judgement. The lighting looks quite different between shots and there's the obvious difference in development stage they were taken so it's hard to tell anything from that.

Haha, you got him there.

Yeah but are you happy about that? Freezing your bollocks off? :p

I think you place way too much importance on RRP. The v2 PS4 controllers have just come out, like you said, but already Tesco are selling them on at 40 quid. I should think that Sony are therefore selling them for a reasonable price to retailers. As is often the case with Nintendo, their RRPs may be close to competitor RRPs but this ultimately means little to the consumer; their stuff often stays quite close to RRP. In my experience, anyway. We'll see how quickly them Switch joy-cons go down in price. I don't think anyone wants a pure console in the sense of it lacking pretty essential features, or at least implementing them sensibly. It's like saying your house is pure because it lacks central heating.

That sucks... would it be worth contacting them in a few days to see if you get though to someone else a bit more lenient? :p

There's also another couple of factors Ronnie - a lot more people are playing PS4s than anything else, by quite some margin, and probably for much longer periods of time (on account of the large number of games and numerous multiplayer titles). Inevitably you're going to hear more cases of controllers being worn out. I think this discussion is not really hitting the point though to be honest - you can expect controller wear across the board (in fact, virtually every console controller I can remember has had wear issues through extended use). Build quality isn't just durability but the actually quality and feel of the controller itself, which I don't believe the Wii U Pro controller had. Partly I believe that's due to the fact it was an optional controller and didn't have the same degree of thought put into it.

It sounds like you have had really shit luck. I'm still using my launch system pad and have clocked probably a thousand hours in Destiny alone. Then again you also get some people who are really rough with their controllers. I'm sure I saw some totally wrecked PS2 controllers at my friends' houses back in the day and I did wonder quite how they fucked up their controllers so badly. A slightly unrelated observation, but I'm always in awe at how many people seem to completely ruin their phone screens too.

Yeah, this really is more of an indie-style eShop title.

Yeah, I reckon for some reason the March release date was set and everything else (Zelda, launch games, online) has had to be rushed to be ready for the launch. Looks like online had to give.

This is sad news and gives the impression of business as usual with regards to online for Nintendo.

I'm hoping the app is just a means of controlling the voice chat and that you can have a wireless headset that works with the Switch. And that you can see some sort of voice chat display on the TV/Switch as well as the phone.

I would love for them to react to the criticism like Microsoft did...even if it's just a few changes or clarifications. They need this launch to be a hit.

Not to mention Clown asked me about my opinion of stick placement, then proceeded to tell me to wind my neck in!

Why do they have to be the same? Nintendo are all about producing different controllers. The Wii U supported a wide variety of controllers, some of which had the right stick up top, some below. There's also no reason why they couldn't have gone right stick up top and left stick down below. Or you know, designed the switch to be symmetrical.

Nothing to do with the joy-cons, this is the Switch Pro controller we're talking about. They could have done whatever they wanted basically. Sticks below buttons always in my opinion - makes buttons much more accessible. Whenever you get the left stick above the D-pad the D-pad tends to be a bit shit.

Yeah, I think it's because they explained it in the context of ice cubes and their position that did nothing for me. Would have been cooler if they'd have explained it in the context of a game. Or maybe they did explain it. I think I basically watched the highlights.

Clearly important enough for them to change the design this time round. On an unrelated note, is anyone else totally nonplussed about rumble HD?

They're not the same thing, but the build quality is cheap as well as the design being a bit poor. The controller has a cheap and plasticy feel and weight to it and it's actually pretty flat and amateur looking. The buttons are hard and I remember it being uncomfortable to play Mario Kart for long periods of time with the accelerate button held. The controller is generally not as comfortable to hold as the other two, in my opinion.