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Because it just does. That's the first thing I thought...and I've seen others say it too. Something about the low detail style of the buildings.

Yeah that is a point. Still annoying if you're not a diligent charger though.

That's correct. The only way to charge the joy-cons without a charging grip is to put them on the side of the Switch. If you were viewing your game on the TV you'd have to either switch to handheld mode or stop playing, basically. A really daft choice of Nintendo.

It's 330 euros on Amazon France, £290. What were you saying about Brexit?

Correct, you can't carry on playing unless you stop and put them on the side of the system every now and then. Given these controllers are so expensive it's not like you can just buy a spare either. I think it's a really cheeky cash grab - they're giving you the exact same plastic controller shell with the console just without whatever wiring needs to go in there to actually charge the system. It couldn't have cost them much at all to add the charging version to the pack.

The worst bit is that the console comes with a regular grip which is exactly the same as the charging grip except it doesn't charge the controllers.

Grey. I first saw the multiple colours and thought they looked cool...but the more I've looked at them the less I liked them. Would be better if all the same colour and the frame of the actual console matched.

Happy Birthday.

Well, it's confirmed that the Switch doesn't come with the charging grip - you need to buy the 28 quid charging grip separately to charge spares. Source Can't see them throwing a 28 quid peripheral in with additional joy cons your purchase to be honest.

I know what you mean. On paper nobody should be touching this thing right now - £280, £60 game, threadbare launch, unconfirmed long-term party support, potentially lacking online features. And yet...it's a shiny gadget that's meant to be very solidly built, plus Zelda...

It's only a matter of time - Switch is their next handheld after all.

Holy fucking, fucking shit. Unbelievable. A bulky headset! What on Earth is this guy talking about?!! Why would anyone in their right minds want to do this via a phone at a cost?? Once again we learn how out of touch he and Nintendo are, and once again this still surprises me.

For the price, I'm gonna go with utter bollocks tbh.

Puh-rice-ooh point-ooh!

I have a preorder with Amazon, probably one of the first to preorder. Not planning to keep it unless Nintendo do some mad Xbox shit, reversing policies and procedures left right and center. I like the system (being a big Vita and indie fan) but the price and launch lineup is ridiculous. Completely unjustifiable. The online also sounds really poor. Quite disappointed all in all.

As I've said to others, I reckon it's the ambassador program all over again. Try their luck with the fans to begin with, then drop the price dramatically a few months down the line and offer a few free games. I like the console but the price, features and games seem like madness. Such a shame. I think people comparing this to phones as a way of justifying the price are kidding themselves. It's not a phone, it's a games console, so inevitably it will be compared to other games consoles. It's very expensive.

Really? Normally they don't let you preorder or put a note on the page if that happens, but looks business as usual on the product page. Edit: never mind, seen the note now.

Surprised you aren't agreeing with me on this...It's just not good. I'd pay for a service if it's worth it but what Nintendo are offering just isn't. Party chat through a phone, game rental for a month...What are they doing. £280 with no game packed in, more expensive than the current systems by far. What the fuck.

Something like a VC catalogue subscription! Not paid online for their 1 or 2 titles that you occasionally want to play online. Nintendo just don't have the kind of FPS games that you sink countless hours into online or the established friends lists to keep people there. Nintendo have always been the crappy online providers but people put up with it because it's free. Party chat is being done via a phone app for god's sake!

I just can't get over how fucking stupid everything we've heard is. The price...no games bundled...paid online. What the fuck have Nintendo done...

599 US dollars says hi.

Actually as I recall most PS3 users on here were already signed up to Plus so already paying for it before it became mandatory. Obviously free is better than paying but Nintendo's service sounds poor and I'm surprised they're charging.

Now watch as the people who complained about paid online start to justify it or at the very least sign up for it.

Yep...look back and people are usually saying £250 at most, but hoping for £230.

So in other words nothing to do with Brexit, just a good old-fashioned Nintendo stitch up. Milk the Nintendo fans, then 6 months later drop the price and do an ambassador scheme and they will forget all about it.