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And, as if by magic... More: http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2347526.ece

Not nearly as hilarious as the bindippers

Just applied for tickets to the UEFA cup final, how's that for optimism? :P

Indeed, he's a right bullshit merchant. Before swallowing the stuff he put to you in his latest 'documentary' it might be worth reading this: http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2000/03/16/modified-truth/ http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2026091,00.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,341054,00.html He's a mental marxist nutter who's always making films about how silicon implants prevent breast cancer, GM food is great, environmentalists are Nazis etc, all with the help of his mates from Communist magazine Living Marxism.

I like big butts and I cannot lie. Or, more specifically, I like women who have a body like a woman rather than the body of a ten year old boy.

They don't just print out the picture from the website and stick it on the box you know. And everytime someone changes something on the cover they don't immediately call the web designers on the bat phone and get them to go through every single mock-up on their website and change it, only to change it back again the next day.

I've already given examples of when official box art has been different to what appears on shelves. There's even been differences between official boxart and the final packaging after the game has been released. If you're going to live by a mantra that once it's a month from release there is no way that there will ever be any differences between the mock-up on the website and the physical box, you'll end up tripping up sooner or later.

What I found most interesting was the guy who hadn't eaten meat for 6 months, watched the slaughter of the lamb and resumed eating meat because he saw it was humane, clean and professional. Although a big meat fan turned down the lamb after watching it.

BA is indeed not online, but your reasoning is faulty. Yes, it has to have it on the box. That is not the box. It's a JPEG. As I've said, if you believe pre-release official boxart shots we'd be playing pokemon trozei online and most people wouldn't be able to play red steel. You put far to much sted in early boxart. The other mock up, complete with wi-fi logo, most probably came from ubisoft as well.

Humans are designed to be omnivores (Well, human's aren't 'designed' at all in my opinion, but you know what I mean) Hence tearing incisors rather than the flat, grinding teeth you see in herbivores. Anwyay, watched the lamb episode yesterday morning at work and I was actually surprised by how professional, humane and clean it all was. Actually made me quite hungry and I went to morrisons and bought some minted lamb afterwards. I agree that shutting your eyes and pretending your not eating a little fluffy animal that once gambled round the feilds then got slaughtered for your plate is hypocritical. If you can't stomach that fact, don't eat the meat. I think it's a good programme as well and I can't see how either vegetarians or meat eaters can or should have a problem with it.

I know lots of gamers, serious and otherwise who never even consider playing games online. In my opinion, people on gaming message boards have a skewed perspective of how important online gaming is because there tends to be a much higher number of online gamers on internet forums. In real life, there are many people who have no desire to either play Call of Duty with someone in Norway or argue with him about HD graphics. The official box art for pokemon trozei had the Wifi logo on, even down to the official box art sent to shops for cardboard promo displays. Box went on the shelves, no wi-fi logo. I wouldn't use official box art as gospel because it can change right up to release as they realise what needs to be added/altered (or even be shipped out by the thousand with glaring errors on it, like Red Steel)

I'm not entirely sure if that's irony or not...

The papers and the coppers have picked up on it: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tm_headline=racism-shame-for-hammers%26method=full%26objectid=18711977%26siteid=89520-name_page.html Spurs call themselves the Yids anyway, so it's hardly in the same league.

"I'd rather be a paki than a jew"

The hammers show their class at half time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=styMF2KqgI4&mode=related&search=

You don't think the fact creationism is mentioned in the topic title may give a clue that there will be discussion of the creation of the universe?

Spurs are so bad even Tevez can score against them, West Ham are so bad they can't even beat Spurs. No tears shed for the 'appy 'ammers, they were swanning around like a dog with two cocks when they signed the argies. Hilarious that not only have they both failed spectacularly, but they may get points deducted for signing them aswell.

There's no 'pinnacle of evolution' though - Nothing is 'more evolved' than anything else they just adapt to their surroundings. If situations change cockroaches could be far more well suited to the environment than humans and have an advantage over us.

You played it for an hour and claimed the music was repetitive because you hadn't unlocked more than one music track. Graphically it's one of the cleaner, sharper, better stylised Wii games. Dunno how you can claim Red Steel's graphics 'arn't bad' then slate the graphics of this, after saying in the mecury meltdown thread "its a puzzle game so who cares about the graphics".

I think I actually played one of this series on the PC, the 'london police' version of the same franchise, because it was only about 200meg to download. It actually plays worse than it looks and the 'british' accents are terrible. There's localised versions for germany etc as well.

Alcohol is a drug which "controles" people actions as well though - does that get banned? You see, I have no problem with people who are completely straight edge harping on about intoxicants but people who have totally polar opposite reactions to booze and other recreational drugs I find to be hypocrits to be honest - especially when they give the impression that anyone who takes a 'drug' (ranging from poppers to weed to heroin and crystal meth) immediately becomes some kind of uncontrollable monster. I doubt if you left people in a room with a sword and a big bag of weed you'd find a scene of slaughter either.

Dunno like, factory slaughter methods are no picnic either - Chickens decapitated by machines often end up still alive with half a brain.

Well ornamental swords don't have any more use than replica guns apart from the collectors side of things (you certainly wouldn't want to duel with them). And we've estalished swords being used in crime right across the country. In terms of prison, I think the main problem is that it doesn't work in terms of reducing crime. It's a punishment, but I think punishment is secondry to actually stopping people reoffending - and I don't think harsher sentences makes makes much of a difference, American states with the death penalty certainly don't have lower murder rates. People tend to come out of prison just as likely to reoffend as they went in. I think more emphasis should be put on helping people get off hard drugs and giving them training so they can contribute to society and earn a living on release instead of reverting back to funding their lives through crime immediately on release. It's all very well saying lock people up for 10 years in a 2 by 2 cell with bread and water, but if they come out exactly the same as they went in then nothing's acheived at all. And unless everyone who commits a crime is going to be locked up indefinitely, turning the UK into a floating prison colony, we have to deal with the reality that most prisoners are going to be released at some point.

Wasn't older style schooling more about mindlessly memorising dates, kings, battles and poetry than today though? Regardless of whether you find that harder or not, is it more useful or better at developing your brain?

I'm not condemning alcohol, I'm talking about it as if it's the same subject, which it essentially is. Alcohol was brought up on the last page of this thread. Indeed I agree, just like the war on drugs causes most drug related problems - in particular problems with canabis stem almost exclusively from its illegality and crime related to heroin could be slashed if it was available on prescription rathern than exclusively by giving stolen TVs to drug dealers. But not all drug users effect other people, just like everyone with a sword doesn't stab people with it, just like not everyone with a replica gun uses it to hold up a bank and not everyone with a nuke uses it to wipe out a country. The prison population in the UK rises every year. Are things getting better every year?