dazzybee Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 NSMB never did 420k in a day, that was its first week wasn't it? Galaxy should match that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khilafah Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 pretty sure NSMB done that in at least 2 days. Isnt the first two days the highest selling in Japan. I always thought it slowed down after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 its worrying if that is true as the casual games cannot last forever. Nintendo has to attract the hardcore gamer. Plus if Mario does not do aswell as we all think it should 3rd parties will be put off from releasing more traditional games. You bought the japanese game...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khilafah Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 after reading this article it seems like sales should pick up.. shame Opoona totally bombed! The first day numbers are in for the latest releases in Japan, such as Ace Combat 6 on Xbox 360 and the Wii duo of Opoona and Super Mario Galaxy. According to Japanese blogger 'sinobi', who regularly updates with early sales figures, Koei's Wii-exclusive RPG 'Opoona', developed by Artepiazza (the team working with Square Enix on the Dragon Quest DS remakes), has only sold around 2,500 copies on its first day, which is 10% of its initial stock. Whilst the game has been getting positive impressions in early previews, as well as good coverage in magazines like Famitsu, it has failed to light retail up like some thought it might. If the game can scrape to 10,000 units by the end of the Media Create sales week it will be mightily impressive. As for one of the other big releases this week, Bandai Namco's Ace Combat 6 on Xbox 360 opened to queues outside certain stores across Japan, as 360 owners were eager to pick up the new flight title. As a result, the game has passed 35,000 units to start with, which for a game on a system that has not yet sold 500,000 in total, that is definitely good going! The one everyone has been watching, though, is Super Mario Galaxy. After Super Mario Sunshine on the GameCube was seen to be a major sales disaster in comparison to previous Mario games, Galaxy was the ray of light for most Nintendo fans. For reference, Sunshine sold 280,000 in its first week on sale back on the system that has now only just sold over four million. Now, with the Wii at about 3.7 million, Super Mario Galaxy has sold...only about 130,000 on its first day! Shocked? Quite a lot of forum-dwellers certainly appear to be, especially given how New Super Mario Bros. whipped through 900,000 units in its first week on DS last year. However, the pull of the 2D and 3D Mario series is very different and considering the game is tracking slightly ahead of Mario Party 8 as well at this point indicates it could well go on to sell between 280,000-300,000 by the software chart update next Thursday. With retailer pre-orders of 700,000 as well in Japan, it seems Nintendo could well be looking towards stretching the game's sales through to the holiday period to get a larger boost then. Certainly, according to sinobi, retailers are pleased with the performance so far, which is positive news. But will the game significantly boost Wii sales? Tune in to Cubed³ next week to find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy2211 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 First day sales mean absolutely nothing. Jesus Christ, has no one seen the model Nintendo have for marketing games? They just keep their games in the charts for years and slowly rack up sales. I mean look at Mario Part 8, It sold about 400k in it's first week. That's a pretty solid figure, but it's been in the top 5 in Japan ever since and is still selling 20k plus every week. Mario Galaxy will just do that, except on a greater scale. It's clearly a bigger game in America and Europe (hence why here it's the number title, but Wii Fit is in Japan). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaggis Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 That first Gif made me lol Dante. I'm sure the game will do fine, no need to worry. It's Mario afterall. There's no way it will dissapoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khilafah Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 okay guys. I only just started playing it. graphics are really nice. easily the best looking game on Wii at the moment. The way you can walk around planets is mental. oh and the music is amazing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Ironflame Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 1up review just gave it a 9.5, I need to read it in detail but what I noticed is they put down the limitations of the Wii hardware as a negative... Okay it seems it has minor flaws which suggests it should have got a bit higher IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 1UP Review! No single series has defined videogames like Mario. This is not mere opinion but rather cold, hard fact: Donkey Kong invented the platformer, Mario Bros. made it cooperative (or competitive, depending on your personality), Super Mario Bros. perfected it, and Super Mario 64 made it work in three dimensions. Even Mario's spin-offs have been hugely influential, whether through Super Mario Kart creating the mascot racer or in Super Mario RPG introducing action and timing to turn-based role-playing games. Sure, the medium would have evolved just fine without him, but through the years he's consistently led the way to better, more polished game design. Of course, this makes for high expectations -- Mario's slightest misstep is usually treated as abject failure. Certainly he's starred in some genuinely lackluster titles, but even solid but quirky outings that would have been adored under the auspices of a less-revered franchise are often panned by critics and gamers alike. Super Mario Galaxy should be free of any such contention. It is an exceptional game by any standard, Mario or otherwise. It doesn't invent new kinds of gameplay, but it represents something that is perhaps equally important: A rethinking of how 3D platformers should work. The decade since the N64's debut has seen the genre struggle (and generally fail) to move beyond simply piling needlessly complex controls and obsessive-compulsive item collection on Mario 64's foundation. Galaxy strips away those encumbrances, revisits the essential concepts that made its esteemed predecessor so enjoyable, and then expands on them in new and intriguing ways. Granted, it's not a perfectly clean break; Mario still does plenty of collecting. But those elements are far less obtrusive here than we've been conditioned to expect by 10 years of lazy mimicry. Coins simply offer extra lives (plus bragging rights), and while unlocking certain stages requires a fair number of star bits -- candy-like fragments sprinkled throughout the world -- they're abundant enough that you'll meet your requirements in the course of normal play. The previous games' red (or blue) coin collecting missions do return in the form of purple coins -- but these stages aren't required to beat the game. (As a matter of fact, you can't even play them until you defeat the final boss.) To make collection even less of a chore, Galaxy uses the Wii Remote as a cursor that allows you to gather star bits by simply pointing at them, regardless of how far away from Mario they happen to be. In fact, Wii functionality is incorporated into Galaxy more subtly and effectively than in any action game to date, and it allows for a simplified control scheme that nevertheless offers Mario more varied control options than ever before -- an amazing accomplishment in itself. Only a few sections of the game are entirely reliant on advanced Wii functionality (using the tilt controls to steer Mario atop a rolling ball, for instance), but these are quarantined entirely within stand-alone stages and never intrude on the basic run-and-jump action. The streamlined controls are more than simply a reaction to the overbearing interfaces common in modern platformers, too. They're born of necessity, as the worlds Mario travels through really are literal worlds, tiny planetoids scattered throughout more than a dozen different galaxies, and this lends Galaxy's platform gameplay a feel unlike any game before. How many times have you been able to take a running leap that sends you flying so far that you circle a planet's circumference a few times before landing? How often has a game let you jump into the air only to land on the surface of a different world altogether? How many times have you found yourself scurrying about a platform and dodging half a dozen hazards while ducking for power-ups and negotiating rapidly fluctuating gravity? Galaxy constantly tosses you into these situations, and it does so in a completely casual manner that makes them feel like a natural extension of its Mario 64-derived gameplay. And at times, you probably won't even realize how off-the-wall its level design actually is until you stop to consider how fresh it all feels. You've never done these things before in a videogame, but Galaxy makes even the wildest challenge feel almost second nature. Its subtle, intelligent visual design deserves much of the credit for easing players into the unfamiliar; everything you can do (and must do) is indicated by the shapes of platforms, by the placement of telltale shadows on the ground, or by NPCs pantomiming your actions. Only in the latter half of the game does the design falter -- a copy-and-paste level here, too much doodad collecting there, all topped off with a mind-bending final level that might be a bit too demanding for neophyte players who cut their teeth on Nintendogs and Brain Age. Galaxy demonstrates the difference between a good game and a great game: attention to detail and reliable, consistent game rules. The worlds you'll visit in the course of collecting the game's 120 Stars frequently challenge the assumptions you take for granted when you play a platformer, but the new rules that come into play always operate consistently within their context. There are no "gotcha" moments, no cheap sections of memorization, even in the most challenging special stages. Intuition, logic, and reactions will win the day. Excellent reactions, mind you -- Galaxy is unforgiving at times, like the best classic Mario games. Anyone can beat Galaxy with enough persistence, but complete mastery of the game demands genuine skill. Given the Wii's limitations, Galaxy's visuals are absolutely impressive -- especially when you notice that you can look around and see all of a galaxy's planets at once. Still, gamers with HD sets will find themselves wishing the Wii could output at a higher resolution, if only to make the bright, colorful graphics look that much cleaner. It fares even better on the audio front; aside from an abundance of too-chirpy sound effects, Galaxy will leave your ears dazzled. The music ranges from great to amazing, without a false note to be heard. The orchestrated themes are as vast and majestic as befits a game that spans the universe, and the sly interweaving of dynamic sound and classic motifs creates a soundscape that is quintessentially Mario yet uncharacteristically sophisticated. In Galaxy, Nintendo finally makes good on its grand ambition this generation (with only a few small snags): to create a game that anyone can play, but laden with enough depth and intricacy to satisfy its hardcore fans. Galaxy's hub-based design offers much more flexibility than its predecessors; at any given time, a dozen or more new levels may be accessible, including plenty of tricky alternate stages that offer races and time attacks or that challenge Mario to survive massive boss encounters with a single point of health. The levels themselves are designed to be approached however you like, too -- those who prefer to take their time and explore will frequently find themselves rewarded when they stumble upon unexpected alternate paths leading to hidden stars. And those who like to "break" games or perfect speed runs will find much to love in Mario's huge repertoire of skills, power-ups, and tantalizing, just-out-of-reach platforms -- which simply beg for mastery and exploitation. Galaxy channels the spirit of Super Mario Bros. 3 in many ways -- the bite-sized stages, the vast array of specialized power-ups, the airships -- but none are as remarkable as its exhilarating sense of freedom. In short, Galaxy is one of the most impressive, engrossing games in recent memory -- and quite the contrast to the rest of this year's triple-A gaming crop, which tends toward the dark, the M-rated, and the first-person perspective. Gaming may be growing up (per se), but gamers will always appreciate beautifully polished gameplay and inventive design...even if it's sugarcoated with squeaky baby stars and a goofy cartoon of a hero. Galaxy proves that Mario matters just as much today as he did 25 years ago, and that makes him one of a kind in this medium. But don't play Galaxy simply because Mario is the timeless godfather of gaming. No, play Galaxy because it's fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Great review, but what's the point in posting it completely here, instead of just linking it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Great review, but what's the point in posting it completely here, instead of just linking it?? Sometimes 1Up site does not upload right and i did for the lazy people on here. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoDesiato Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Great review, but what's the point in posting it completely here, instead of just linking it?? Great review, but what's the point in just linking it, instead of posting it completely here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0Zm1c Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Yeah I've had problems with their site in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Great review, but what's the point in just linking it, instead of posting it completely here? Oh, I dunno... cramming up the forum database maybe...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaggis Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Oh, I dunno... cramming up the forum database maybe...? It's just a review thats been posted, it's not the end of the world. 1UP messes up for me sometimes so it was nice of Dante to post it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoDesiato Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Oh, I dunno... cramming up the forum database maybe...? ...you're worried about a text cramming up the forum database? Seems like an odd reason. But whatever. I like your sig, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 ...you're worried about a text cramming up the forum database? Seems like an odd reason. But whatever. I like your sig, by the way. Ok, ok, I got the point. It's just that in other forums I frequently see admins talk about these issues. And what would cram up the database if not text? Not images for sure, cause images are just as long as their URLs, the rest is stealing bandwidth from where they are stored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khilafah Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 completed the 1st world and the game really is amazing! level design is out of this world. Man I am so in love with this game. it gives you that same feeling when we all played Mario 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 What would SMG be like on the SNES? Find out here: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/87793.html Oh, and some guys I believe from 1up talking about the game, interesting video: http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/15949 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Piranah Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Only criticisms in whole IUP review: Only in the latter half of the game does the design falter -- a copy-and-paste level here, too much doodad collecting there, all topped off with a mind-bending final level that might be a bit too demanding for neophyte players who cut their teeth on Nintendogs and Brain Age. Still, gamers with HD sets will find themselves wishing the Wii could output at a higher resolution, if only to make the bright, colorful graphics look that much cleaner. It fares even better on the audio front; aside from an abundance of too-chirpy sound effects, aside from an abundance of too-chirpy sound effects, Good review though, I gave it a thumbs up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 To be honest I think people don't think enough about this, but spherical levels are a huge revolution as far as 3D gaming goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0Zm1c Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Prey had planetoids. They weren't used much during the course of the game though. Also, the main menu in Psychonauts was a planetoid. I believe there might have been some in the game itself too, but I can't remember. So, whilst it's no doubt the best, Mario Galaxy isn't the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Prey had planetoids. They weren't used much during the course of the game though. Also, the main menu in Psychonauts was a planetoid. I believe there might have been some in the game itself too, but I can't remember. So, whilst it's no doubt the best, Mario Galaxy isn't the first. Those didn't really affect the gameplay at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0Zm1c Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Prey's gravity mechanics really messed around with the players sense of orientation, so I don't know what you mean by it not affecting the gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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