Sheikah Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I have no problems whatsoever in believing the Mafia could revive a player to join their cause (ie. their revealed alignment need no longer apply). Obviously Rummy knows more, but it's by no means 'confirmed'.
Diageo Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Sheikah, how do you know that Jonnas couldn't target you? Also, targets and role claim please so we have it all in one day. Dud can you give targets for past nights?
Mr-Paul Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 DuD, can you explain how exactly it works? Do you request to use a dead person's power on someone, or do you just choose a dead person and get something chosen by the GM? We know that Cube and Jonnas had those roles, but that info could easily be made up and you could be a mafia group. Especially after you lied saying you had no power, and two people appearing mafia but being town sounds far-fetched to me. Sheikah, are you definitely immune to Jonnas? He was rainbow coloured, so perhaps he was able to get through to you? DuD, if you explain how your info works it will allay my fears about this being a convoluted power play a lot more, I get very paranoid when we get to this stage and no mafia have been found yet (and I have little useful info!)
DuD Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Diageo actually read my post and you'll understand that is a stupid question. As I posted I talk to dead people as long as ReZ is in the loop so nothing untoward goes on.. that info isn't mine its theirs whilst they were alive.
Sheikah Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Sheikah, how do you know that Jonnas couldn't target you? Also, targets and role claim please so we have it all in one day. Dud can you give targets for past nights? I didn't want to reveal this since the Mafia are sure to have one - when I use my self-targeting ability I camouflage with the sea bed and am immune to targeting from creatures except dolphins and sharks. Jonnas was not one of those creatures. Lots of people have already confirmed not being able to target me. DuD saying Jonnas reached me and found me to be Mafia cannot be true. So far I have self targeted every night since I don't have any usable gems. The only gem I've picked up so far enhances a second gem used so there hasn't been anything anything other than self targeting to do yet.
Dedede Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Vote: Sheikah I got a boost 2 nights ago where I failed to reach Sheikah I would get extra info on him. Stated he was a cuttlefish, he's a scorpion fish. He's also lying about his fishy ability. I think he's claimed to escape targeting AND be immune to Jonnas gemstone type so far. He's a roleblocker also, so he does have a gem type.
DuD Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 You can try and focus on the appearing mafia thing all you like, BUT it is not you that found it out.. IT WAS ME THAT REVEALED IT EVEN THOUGH THE ALIGNMENT INVESTIGATOR AND POWER COP ARE BOTH DEAD.. so explain my benefit in making it up and coming out with it?? The only relevance it holds is the fact that in my eyes it clears EEVIL as town because I very much doubt he would bullshit that when there is another player in the exact same situation. Too much of a coincidence. Why wouldn't I lie about having no power? I've had THE BIGGEST INFO ROLE in the game.. would you have revealed it? No..? didn't think so.. especially seeing as anybody tracking me would see I haven't submitted a night action (apart from N2). My lie has allowed me to collect info all game whilst the mafia thought I was no threat. As I said already: Sheikah is Mafia. I know everyone APART FROM Diageo, EEVILMURRAY, Mr Paul and The Peeps are town. I would be surprised if EEVIL is Mafia..
DuD Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Mafia now have 3 options unless the Town actually grow a pair and lynch Sheikah today. You can kill me tonight.. reveal my alignment and prove I'm telling the truth, uniting the other townies to finish you off. You can not kill at all.. to stop enabling me with extra info. OR You can kill an action role if you know of one. If Sheikah does get lynched i'll obviously be killed tonight as I'll have already been proven to be telling the truth.. but I've already given the town the mafia, so I don't mind
Sheikah Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Vote: Sheikah I got a boost 2 nights ago where I failed to reach Sheikah I would get extra info on him. Stated he was a cuttlefish, he's a scorpion fish. He's also lying about his fishy ability. I think he's claimed to escape targeting AND be immune to Jonnas gemstone type so far. He's a roleblocker also, so he does have a gem type. 1. I'm not a Scorpion Fish 2. You already stated you failed to reach me - now you claim to gave info about me. 3. I've always said I'm immune to certain types, being deliberately vague to avoid the Mafia killing me. 4. I am most definitely not a roleblocker. You can try and focus on the appearing mafia thing all you like, BUT it is not you that found it out.. IT WAS ME THAT REVEALED IT EVEN THOUGH THE ALIGNMENT INVESTIGATOR AND POWER COP ARE BOTH DEAD.. so explain my benefit in making it up and coming out with it?? The only relevance it holds is the fact that in my eyes it clears EEVIL as town because I very much doubt he would bullshit that when there is another player in the exact same situation. Too much of a coincidence. Why wouldn't I lie about having no power? I've had THE BIGGEST INFO ROLE in the game.. would you have revealed it? No..? didn't think so.. especially seeing as anybody tracking me would see I haven't submitted a night action (apart from N2). My lie has allowed me to collect info all game whilst the mafia thought I was no threat. As I said already: Sheikah is Mafia. I know everyone APART FROM Diageo, EEVILMURRAY, Mr Paul and The Peeps are town. I would be surprised if EEVIL is Mafia.. You have lied throughout the game and have failed to come forward instantly with a supposed concrete Mafia verdict. It doesn't surprise me that multiple people have suddenly gained MASSIVE amounts of information (on a person Dedede even admitted earlier to failing to reach) on a day when, assuming the night kill goes down next, you can essentially claim majority votes.
DuD Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I do honestly admire your not giving up, but the only thing that will save you is a lack of activity from the town. Best of luck with that. i don't care if we win or lose now.. i've pegged you all :p
Diageo Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I'm gonna Vote Sheikah because it will tell us a lot about Dud's power, potentially leading to more mafia lynches, and because Sheikah is not able to give us any concrete information anyway.
Dedede Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I shouldn't really entertain him but as I've already said, I got a boost the night I failed to reach Sheikah which gave me extra info on him the following night. We need a lynch before he unleashes his tidal wave of talking bollocks power to de-rail the thread.
DuD Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 We need a lynch before he unleashes his tidal wave of talking bollocks power to de-rail the thread. Yes Dedede. Yesh. Haha
Sheikah Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 7 players tomorrow means majority of 4. They're obviously pushing for a win. @Diageo - Dedede's backup of DuD to get votes is pretty silly. I said days ago that I was a cuttlefish. His information on me being a scorpion fish was apparently gained a couple of days ago too (when he actually said he couldn't reach me). If I had indeed lied about what fish I was (why I would do this I have no fucking idea) then why didn't he say so 2 days ago when he supposedly found out? His information comes on the last day they probably need to lynch to win and immediately after DuD's info.
Dedede Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 7 players tomorrow means majority of 4. They're obviously pushing for a win. @Diageo - Dedede's backup of DuD to get votes is pretty silly. I said days ago that I was a cuttlefish. His information on me being a scorpion fish was apparently gained a couple of days ago too (when he actually said he couldn't reach me). If I had indeed lied about what fish I was (why I would do this I have no fucking idea) then why didn't he say so 2 days ago when he supposedly found out? His information comes on the last day they probably need to lynch to win and immediately after DuD's info. The mafia obviously have a player that make you un targetable. You had no way of knowing I would be getting extra info you. You just said you could choose to be un targetable as a cuttle fish. This clearly was an effort to encourage people nit to target you, and it's reasonable to assume I wouldn't try and waste my time twice.
Sheikah Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 The mafia obviously have a player that make you un targetable. You had no way of knowing I would be getting extra info you. You just said you could choose to be un targetable as a cuttle fish. This clearly was an effort to encourage people nit to target you, and it's reasonable to assume I wouldn't try and waste my time twice. Remind me, when did you apparently find out I am a scorpion fish?
Sheikah Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Read my posts Oh don't worry, I have. You supposedly found out I was a scorpion fish days ago. I revealed I was a cuttlefish days ago. You have had ages to say this. Your information is false and you are trying to push through my lynch.
Dedede Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Read #213, got it the next day phase from targeting you(this one). Was nice to let you dig your own grave a little deeper. It's good play not to give people parameters within which they can make claims if you hold info they don't know about. This is just sad now.
Sheikah Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Read #213, got it the next day phase from targeting you(this one). Was nice to let you dig your own grave a little deeper. It's good play not to give people parameters within which they can make claims if you hold info they don't know about. This is just sad now. Except you shouldn't have been able to reach me either way. You're not a shark or a dolphin so I will have been untargetable to you. What is your supposed useful info on me anyway? That I'm a roleblocker? That is crap and you know it. Magnus found out roles and was town. I very much doubt you are a role cop and finding out what type of fish someone is seems pretty useless. It's lame that people are resulting to ad hominem rather than focusing on what I'm actually saying.
Rummy Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Right. Clamco spends much time in a sleepy dream state, with visions of a handsome surface dwelling man who deals with moneyhouses and brickresidences(silly surface people), spending time at jobworks, on the 'days' they call 'week' 'end'. Clamco has been quite distracted with such visions. Clamco has yet to completely reconcile with the ocean's occurences in the meanwhile passing of tides. HOWEVER. Clamco can verify all that the DuDFish has claimed as true, Clamco WAS talked to on HighTide by the DuDFish, and Clamco was revived by his powers(coincidentally Clamco wished to recruit the DuDFish on the same HighTide). ClamCo was aware of the DuDFish's powers and revival ability, but did not wish to point out the one-use power as cause for revival so as not to jeopardise the DuDFish who had been so loving to return Clamco from the only grips fiercer than his own - death's. Accordingly, I go with the DuDFish's suspicions, and Vote:Sheikah.
Dedede Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Except you shouldn't have been able to reach me either way. You're not a shark or a dolphin so I will have been untargetable to you. What is your supposed useful info on me anyway? That I'm a roleblocker? That is crap and you know it. Magnus found out roles and was town. I very much doubt you are a role cop and finding out what type of fish someone is seems pretty useless. It's lame that people are resulting to ad hominem rather than focusing on what I'm actually saying. Once more can't hurt I guess. The boost meant I got extra info the following night. EXTRA INFO! Not claiming role cop.
The Peeps Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 There's one thing that's preventing me from voting for Sheikah at the moment and that's the fact that Jonnas apparently investigated both Dedede and Sheikah? Jonnas' role says he could choose between different types of investigation... now this is slightly meta but I don't think ReZ would allow someone with a 'choice' role to do the same thing two nights running. Jonnas said he failed to target mr-paul night 1 so he must've targeted Dedede on night 2 and Sheikah on the night he died. With majority getting low (especially with a lynch and a kill), this really does feel like a push to me. I know Sheikah is at least partly telling the truth because I was unable to target him. I would rather wait another night phase than lynch without being certain at this point. I don't really trust @DuD. I don't know why you're so casual about two townies appearing mafia. It doesn't seem likely to me at all to me but you're not only accepting it but using it to clear EEVIL and put him in your 'good' list. I suspect you're trying to win his trust so he'll vote along with you because you need a townie on your side for tomorrow. Whatever is going on, I definitely think DuD and EEVIL are opposite alignments.
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