Jump to content
N-Europe

Comic Book Discussion

UK

By UK
in General Chit Chat

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 8.2k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • ReZourceman

    2039

  • Happenstance

    1748

  • Paj!

    1191

  • Dan_Dare

    1139

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Daft Newbie

Daft

Posted
Posted
  Dante said:
It is upto #8 and is out in 24th August. Inc #9 and #10 have merged into over-sized one-shot titled "Batman Incorporated: Leviathon Strikes which is going to be release between September - October.

 

Thanks very much!!

gmac Newbie

gmac

Posted
Posted

sweet, Paul Cornell is going to be signing at my local Forbidden Planet in September

 

they had Grant Morrison last month and Marcos Martin a while back but missed those

 

think I might pop along :)

ReZourceman Newbie

ReZourceman

Posted
Posted

I have a few bits of epic insider DC info! I will post as not "obvious" such as below, as the person who bought/brought me this information signed a NDA. :p

 

J S A January by Ge off Jo hns. :p Is a boring piece.

 

Steph Brown is it>? That Batgirl. Ma rch ish. Big plans.

 

Ba tmanINC will continue in a series of one shots in the new year.

 

---------------

 

Fear Itself #5 was FUCKING awesome IMHO. Shits soooooo much on Flashitpoint.

Happenstance Rising Star

Happenstance

Posted
Posted

My only complaints about Fear Itself would be the usual one about them writing it for the trade but also that the "Fear" thats supposed to be happening over the entire planet hasnt really been shown all that well, best ive seen it was the Spider-Man spin offs. Also I dont think enough time has been spent with the bad guy, he basically means nothing to me in this.

 

Theres also something IGN said in their review which I agreed with:

 

  Reveal hidden contents
Dan_Dare Newbie

Dan_Dare

Posted
Posted

So the next Avengers thing post FI is going to be an Avengers War featuring:

 

  Reveal hidden contents
Paj! Newbie

Paj!

Posted
Posted
  ReZourceman said:
I have a few bits of epic insider DC info! I will post as not "obvious" such as below, as the person who bought/brought me this information signed a NDA. :p

 

J S A January by Ge off Jo hns. :p Is a boring piece.

 

Steph Brown is it>? That Batgirl. Ma rch ish. Big plans.

 

Ba tmanINC will continue in a series of one shots in the new year.

 

--------

 

I had to sign an NDA the other day too. It was cool. I felt important.

 

Gail Simone told me on twitter in a vague/obvious way that Steph would be involved in some way.

 

I think we already knew about Batman Inc..?

 

  Happenstance said:
Read Ultimate Fallout #5 earlier, made me think of Ultimates 3 which is never a good thing

 

What part? The

  Reveal hidden contents
ReZourceman Newbie

ReZourceman

Posted
Posted

Ha, cool cover.

 

  Happenstance said:
My only complaints about Fear Itself would be the usual one about them writing it for the trade but also that the "Fear" thats supposed to be happening over the entire planet hasnt really been shown all that well, best ive seen it was the Spider-Man spin offs. Also I dont think enough time has been spent with the bad guy, he basically means nothing to me in this.

 

Theres also something IGN said in their review which I agreed with:

 

  Reveal hidden contents
Happenstance Rising Star

Happenstance

Posted
Posted
  Reveal hidden contents
Dan_Dare Newbie

Dan_Dare

Posted
Posted

I'm enjoying Fear Itself but, as per, I'm actually looking forward to what happens next in Thor, Captain America and the Avengers line. Avengers just seems fucking amazing. There's an interesting teaser image from Marvel too with a new God of thunder pictured who's actually Thor's Celtic counterpart so it'll be interesting to see what that means.

 

X-Men looks set for a major switch up too with Schism and the conclusion of Children's Crusade in the next couple of months. Personally I think the Five Lights story hasn't moved them on enough so here's hoping Wanda reverses House of M somewhat and we get back to what X-Men is really about.

 

Exciting times.

Paj! Newbie

Paj!

Posted
Posted

I haven't been reading Generation Hope at all, but the 5 lights feels like a bit of fizzled story, potential wise. And they just seem to be cluttering the X-Men universe in which established characters aren't getting enough page time as it is.

Happenstance Rising Star

Happenstance

Posted
Posted

The Hope and 5 lights storyline really does seem to have just fallen to the side with no real progression or point. Kind of annoying considering all the build up it had from Messiah Complex all the way up to Second Coming.

Dan_Dare Newbie

Dan_Dare

Posted
Posted

On the other hand, Aaron has used Idie (yeah?) brilliantly in Schism so far...They're good characters, but their arrival hasn't had the impact that was promised. Considering that Hope went all Phoenix Raptor and shit, which is probably the most potent visual in X-Men history, it's not come to much at all.

Happenstance Rising Star

Happenstance

Posted
Posted

Idie is Wolverines new project right? If so I don't think she's been used well at all in Schism, it's felt very forced like they just want Wolverine to have yet another teenage girl to mentor.

Paj! Newbie

Paj!

Posted
Posted

I'd rather she just went all phoenix-y, and then mutants started to (re)gain their powers, or even...like...just that the 'x-gene' was reinstated, but the X-Men didn't have to deal with it until people's powers emerged. There's previous generations of New X-Men currently being ignored, there's no need to focus on yet another. New Mutants have their series which is a good thing (but I don't read it, but plan to I guess), but Gen X are nowhere - Jubilee is a vampire after years of obscurity, Chamber got his..chamber back in Age of X and Husk had one mission a few years ago in Carey's series (he's good about using unused characters). Think the rest are all dead. Then all the student X-Men, who of them all only Pixie is ever used properly.

 

Just seems silly. Also the tendency to use the same cast in all the satellite books liek Astonishing and Adjectiveless. I'm not gonna read them anymore don't think.

 

And what abotu Armour? Whedon built her up well and she was used decently by Ellis after him but everyone else seems to forget she exists. Pixie is the new Armour.

Daft Newbie

Daft

Posted
Posted

If anyone is interested Supergods is worth a read. Grant Morrison is pretty interesting/quirky/smart and ever so slightly full of himself and punchable (mostly in a good way). He sounds like he'd be a lot of fun down the pub.

Paj! Newbie

Paj!

Posted
Posted
  Daft said:
If anyone is interested Supergods is worth a read. Grant Morrison is pretty interesting/quirky/smart and ever so slightly full of himself and punchable (mostly in a good way). He sounds like he'd be a lot of fun down the pub.

 

Considering I love him and going to see him talk in promotion of it, I haven't read it yet.

 

I kinda already know what it's about having read/studied/based my life on his works.

Happenstance Rising Star

Happenstance

Posted
Posted

My Iron Man blu ray turned up today so I'm just watching it. God damn it I need more movies in this Marvel universe to hurry up and come out, I just love them. Its reminded me just how awesome The Avengers movie is gonna be.

 

Do we know which other characters Marvel still have the rights to that haven't already been announced?

Daft Newbie

Daft

Posted
Posted
  Paj! said:
Considering I love him and going to see him talk in promotion of it, I haven't read it yet.

 

I kinda already know what it's about having read/studied/based my life on his works.

 

Last week I was camping with Rufus who does T ank Girl now and he was telling me about this time when Morrison massively shat his pants on a flight and din't notice until he got to his hotel room because he was so off his head. Sounds like a laugh.

 

Also, I really want to go to the San Diego ComiCon one year.

ReZourceman Newbie

ReZourceman

Posted
Posted
  Happenstance said:
Well I prefer their reviews. They take a more critical view which I appreciate and a lot of the time agree with. Its not laughably bad at all, its just not the same as yours.

 

Well I disagree, I think it is laughably bad in the sense that I can't understand what they're talking about, what they could be referring to and that some things that flat out got wrong;

 

(Spoilers ahead)

 

  Quote
The fifth chapter in a seven or eight-issue event book tends to be the most boring, as the story is usually in the midst of transitioning between acts. Civil War #5 was particularly dull and uneventful. Fear Itself #5 doesn't necessarily meet with the same pitfall. This is probably the most action-packed installment yet. Unfortunately, the conflict remains as emotionally hollow as ever.

 

The showpiece this month is the epic brawl between Thor and the Worthy-possessed Hulk and Thing. The fight is a grim counterpoint to the scene featuring the trio in Fantastic Four #588. It's also a great deal of fun to watch as it unfolds across numerous pages. Thor puts up a hell of a fight despite being dangerously outmatched, and the brawl merely ends in a stalemate as might be expected. If certain issues of Fear Itself were lacking in terms of action, this issue goes a long way towards making up for it.

 

Stalemate? Hulk gets thrown into space and The Thing is effectively killed. That is not a stalemate.

 

These pages are where Stuart Immonen and friends shine best. Immonen delivers a brutal sequence of panels where every hit is felt and where the choreography is far more ambitious than "punch, doge, repeat." The generally high level of detail falls a bit in isolated cases, but regardless, this is one of the more visually arresting chapters of Fear Itself.

 

Unfortunately, there isn't much else at play in issue #5 that proves particularly memorable. Tony Stark's palaver with Odin is engaging and dramatically written, but not as heavy a focus as it should be. Here is the lone hero who seems affected by Fear Itself on a profound and emotional level. Tony's portion of the story barely advances beyond where it was in issue #4, and Matt Fraction seems to again be counting on Invincible Iron Man to give the character the space he needs.

 

Not a heavy focus on a character in a universe-wide crossover. He had plenty of "screen time", and then they go on to say that he counts on Iron Man's own book to give the character the space he needs.....gee, no fucking shit. :/

Meanwhile, the pages focused on the Avengers are just downright dull. Steve Rogers' return as Captain America continues to unfold with little fanfare or emotion.

 

Little fanfare? Its a warzone, everyone is scrambling around. There isn't time to go "Oh look, Steve put his old costume on". I don't get this criticism at all.

 

Steve's portrayal shows nothing of the torment over Bucky's death or the general desperation of his situation.

 

He is a soldier in a war......mourning time comes later, and its not as if he has been completely emotionless, as is shown in Immonen's great facial work.

 

He seems simply resigned to failure. Nothing in the scope or scale of this event is yet able to outclass classic conflicts like the Kree/Skrull War or Infinity Gauntlet, so why do heroes like Cap and Spider-Man act as if the end of the world has already arrived?

 

Already covered this above, but I will go deeper. Infinity Gauntlet - wasn't that just Thanos? Everyone vs one guy, the threat is immediate and single, there is no time to simply back down. SI and Kree Skrull war - I wouldn't say we saw more destruction or desperation in those! Fear Itself started with riots, then full scale war and invasion, the blowing up of the White House and D.C., the falling of the Avengers Tower and New York alight with smoke and fire.....now.....there wasn't anything in either of the Skrull centric stories that was anywhere near this symbolic and on top of all of that, as I said above not only is there a god-like new threat - Serpent, but several villains have been elevated to epic status, and then the heroes have had casualties, lost some heroes to other places/dealing with other situations AND had some heroes possessed into evilness. I think the "Fear" part of Fear Itself shines massively throughout all of the tie ins and the main book itself.

 

As usual, the conflict lacks that greater sense of context it really needs to function. A few panels showcase some speechless, innocent bystanders cowering in the background, but that real, palpable sense of fear is still absent. Fear Itself continues to offer up some cool beats, but nothing to truly set the conflict apart from what has come before.

 

Apart from everything I listed above. :/

 

Fear Itself as it stands doesn't operate as a proper metaphor for our times like Civil War did. I wish it did, and that the worst Western Civilization had to worry about these days was big people whacking each other with hammers in the streets.

 

Ha! Whut. Not every comic needs to be a metaphor or analogy for real life. This is comic books, super heroes and escapism! If you want real world similies then there are plenty of other books to choose from. Seriously I don't see why this is a remotely valid comment.

 

I truly hope that these last two issues will finally achieve that deeper emotional connection that has only been sporadically apparent across Fear Itself and its tie-ins.

 

Meh. Maybe this person isn't reading the right tie ins. Specifically Avengers Academy, Secret Avengers (Hell there is a real world metaphor for this person!) and Avengers all spring to mind. I mean....just....what?

 

So thats why I think its laughably bad and not just simply a difference of opinion. :)

 

  Happenstance said:
My Iron Man blu ray turned up today so I'm just watching it. God damn it I need more movies in this Marvel universe to hurry up and come out, I just love them. Its reminded me just how awesome The Avengers movie is gonna be.

 

Do we know which other characters Marvel still have the rights to that haven't already been announced?

 

As far as I'm aware it is simply anyone who isn't Spider-Man/X-men originated. I'd be interested to see the contract/terms actually.

 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...