Comic Book Discussion

[Paj!]

Marvel as a universe > DC. That's basically undisputable. It's much better developed and more like...it knows where it's going. It feels like a living thing, and since EVERYTHING interacts with each others, your too aware. / that made no sense, but I know what I mean.

 

DC is too much about reboots, reloads, re-this, Earth-2 that blah blah.

 

The only time it was done stunningly was by Grant Morrison. of course I'd say that though

 

I enjoy DC of course, but it's just weaker overall in comparison. It feels like everything you read will be undermined soon enough.

[Daft]

Yeah, I totally understand that. It just doesn't really bother me for some reason. I think it's partly to do with not being a big comic book person Batman, for example, to me is a culmination of the comics I've read. Not what is the actual status quo in the current universe.

 

I'm also a big fan of 'What if's'. Anyone read the first Star Wars Infinities comic? It's an alternate universe where Luke fails to blow up the Death Star. I orgasmed.

 

Yoda killing the Emperor by smashing the Death Star into Coruscant (At the same time killing b/millions of people). Jizz.

 

SO amazing.

 

 

Also, I love how the universe is centred around Batman and Superman (and Wonder Woman). Also, Gotham City. Trump card. An unsung and awesome character.

 

 

Plus, I'm invested in DC now. Batman is just too cool. Speaking of which, finished Dark Victory last week.

 

 

Dick Grayson is so cool in it. The two page spread where his family are killed and Bruce is in the background is freaking beautiful.

 

 

 

Just need to finish off The Dark Knight Returns and then pick up Haunted Knight and A Death in the Family. Can't wait.

Edited May 15, 2011 by Daft

[Happenstance]

Ok then guys, new question for you.

 

Favourite Comic Stories?

 

Doesnt matter what company its from, just what are some of your favourite comic stories that have been told?

 

Mine:

 

Amazing Spider-Man #248 - The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man

 

Marvels

 

Identity Crisis

 

Superman: Secret Origin

 

Spider-Man: Blue

 

Amazing Spider-Man: The Death of Gwen Stacy

 

There are a lot of other stories I obviously love but those ones are definitely some of my favourites.

[chairdriver]

 

I'm so stunned by this artwork, btw.

[Paj!]

Ok then guys, new question for you.

 

Favourite Comic Stories?

 

Doesnt matter what company its from, just what are some of your favourite comic stories that have been told?

 

Animal Man issue 5

 

...y'know. Everything I think of just comes up as entire Grant Morrison runs, since I see his full runs as single stories (because they are really).

 

Flex Mentallo completely counts a single story, it's a 4-issue mini. Yet to be topped by anything ever. But then also shouldn't really be compared to the majority of 'superhero' comics anyway.

 

Outwith Morrison storylines that spring to mind are...Whedon's Astonishing X-Men...hm.

 

I remember liking how good JMS's Spider-Man was, but then that was in contrast to the horror of Howard Mackie/John Byrne *vomits* before him.

[Happenstance]

Comic Release List for May 25th

 

DARK HORSE COMICS

 

STAR WARS FORCE UNLEASHED GN VOL 01 NEW PTG $15.99

STAR WARS CLONE WARS ADVENTURES TP VOL 08 NE $6.99

BPRD TP VOL 10 THE WARNING NEW PTG $17.99

STAR WARS CLONE WARS TP VOL 03 LAST STAND ON $16.99

BPRD TP VOL 07 GARDEN OF SOULS NEW PTG $17.99

BERSERK TP VOL 21 NEW PTG (MR) $13.99

STAR WARS CLONE WARS ADVENTURES TP VOL 10 NE $6.99

STAR WARS TALES TP VOL 01 NEW PTG $19.99

STAR WARS CLONE WARS TP VOL 01 DEFENSE OF K $16.99

BERSERK TP VOL 17 NEW PTG (MR) $13.99

BETTIE PAGE QUEEN OF HEARTS TP NEW PTG $19.99

BLADE OF THE IMMORTAL TP VOL 10 SECRETS NEW PTG $16.99

BPRD TP VOL 03 PLAGUE OF FROGS NEW PTG $17.99

BPRD TP VOL 11 BLACK GODDESS $17.99

CONAN ROAD OF KINGS #5 (OF 6) $3.50

KING CONAN SCARLET CITADEL #4 $3.50

MAGNUS ROBOT FIGHTER #4 (OF 4) $3.50

MIGHTY SAMSON #3 $3.50

ROBERT E HOWARDS SAVAGE SWORD #2 $7.99

STAR WARS CLONE WARS GN VOL 02 CRASH COURSE NEW PTG $7.99

STAR WARS DARTH VADER & LOST COMMAND #5 (OF 5) $3.50

STAR WARS LEGACY WAR #6 (OF 6) $3.50

STRANGE CASE OF MR HYDE #2 (OF 4) $3.50

 

DC COMICS

 

ACTION COMICS #900 2ND PTG (NOTE PRICE) $5.99

ACTION COMICS #901 (DOOMSDAY) $2.99

AMERICAN VAMPIRE #15 (MR) $2.99

AMERICAN VAMPIRE HC VOL 02 (MR) $24.99

BATMAN BRAVE AND THE BOLD EMERALD KNIGHT TP $12.99

CARTOON NETWORK ACTION PACK #60 $2.99

DC COMICS PRESENTS GREEN LANTERN WILLWORLD #1 $7.99

DETECTIVE COMICS #877 $2.99

DV8 GODS AND MONSTERS TP $17.99

FLASH #13 (FLASHPOINT) $2.99

GOTHAM CITY SIRENS #23 $2.99

GREEN ARROW #12 (BRIGHTEST DAY) $2.99

GREEN LANTERN #66 (WAR OF GL) $2.99

GREEN LANTERN CORPS #60 (WAR OF GL) $2.99

GREEN LANTERN CORPS REVOLT OF ALPHA LANTERNS HC $22.99

GREEN LANTERN EMERALD WARRIORS #10 (WAR OF GL) $2.99

HOUSE OF MYSTERY TP VOL 06 SAFE AS HOUSES (MR) $14.99

INFAMOUS #6 (OF 6) $2.99

JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL TP VOL 06 $24.99

JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA #51 $2.99

STRANGE ADVENTURES #1 (MR) $7.99

TOM STRONG AND THE ROBOTS OF DOOM TP $17.99

UNKNOWN SOLDIER TP VOL 04 BEAUTIFUL WORLD (MR) $14.99

WONDER WOMAN #611 $2.99

XOMBI #3 $2.99

 

IDW PUBLISHING

 

ARCHIES JOKE BOOK HC VOL 01 BOB MONTANA $29.99

ART OF AMANDA CONNER HC $29.99

BARKS BEAR BOOK HC $34.99

COBRA ONGOING #1 $3.99

DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS #7 $3.99

GI JOE ANIMATED TP RENEGADES VOL 01 $7.99

GODZILLA KINGDOM OF MONSTERS #3 $3.99

LIL ABNER HC VOL 03 $49.99

SUICIDE GIRLS #3 (OF 4) (MR) $3.99

TOP 100 SCI FI MOVIES SC $24.99

TRANSFORMERS 3 DARK MOON MOVIE ADAPTATION TP $17.99

TRANSFORMERS PRIME TP VOL 02 $7.99

TRUE BLOOD TAINTED LOVE #4 (MR) $3.99

 

IMAGE COMICS

 

68 (SIXTY EIGHT) #2 (OF 4) CVR A NAT JONES $3.99

68 (SIXTY EIGHT) #2 (OF 4) CVR B NAT JONES & JAY FOTOS $3.99

BREED COL VOL 01 BOOK OF GENESIS TP (MR) $17.99

BROKEN TRINITY TP VOL 02 PANDORAS BOX $19.99

BUTCHER BAKER RIGHTEOUS MAKER #2 VAR CVR 2ND PTG (MR) $2.99

BUTCHER BAKER RIGHTEOUS MAKER #3 (MR) $2.99

CARBON GREY #3 (MR) $2.99

DAOMU #4 (MR) $2.99

DARKNESS #91 (MR) $2.99

DARKNESS ORIGINS TP VOL 03 $19.99

HACK SLASH #4 CVR A SEELEY & BADILLA (MR) $3.50

HACK SLASH #4 CVR B JONES (MR) $3.50

HALCYON #5 (OF 5) $2.99

IMAGE FIRSTS DYNAMO 5 #1 (PP #968) $1.00

IMAGE FIRSTS ULTRA #1 (PP #968) $1.00

MAGDALENA ORIGINS TP VOL 02 (OF 2) (NOTE PRICE) $16.99

MEMOIR #4 (OF 6) $3.50

MISSION #4 $2.99

SKULLKICKERS #7 $2.99

SUPER DINOSAUR #2 $2.99

TATTERED MAN ONE SHOT (MR) $4.99

TURF #5 (MR) $2.99

WALKING DEAD #85 (MR) $2.99

WALKING DEAD WEEKLY #21 (MR) $2.99

 

MARVEL COMICS

 

5 RONIN HC AJA CVR DM VAR ED $19.99

5 RONIN HC CASSADAY CVR $19.99

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #662 $3.99

ASTONISHING SPIDER-MAN WOLVERINE #6 (OF 6) $3.99

CAPTAIN AMERICA #618 $3.99

CAPTAIN AMERICA MAN OUT OF TIME PREM HC $19.99

CAPTAIN AMERICA OFF INDEX TO MARVEL UNIVERSE GN TP $24.99

CHAOS WAR X-MEN TP $15.99

DAKEN DARK WOLVERINE #9 POINT ONE $2.99

DEADPOOL #37 $2.99

EMMA FROST ULTIMATE COLLECTION TP $34.99

FEAR ITSELF BOOK OF THE SKULL 2ND PTG VAR (PP #968) $3.99

FF #4 $2.99

HULK HULK NO MORE HC $29.99

INCREDIBLE HULKS #629 $2.99

INVINCIBLE IRON MAN PREM HC VOL 07 MY MONSTERS $19.99

IRON MAN 2.0 #5 FEAR $2.99

MARVELS PROJECT BIRTH OF SUPER HEROES TP $29.99

MIGHTY THOR #2 $3.99

MMW ATLAS ERA JUNGLE ADVENTURE HC VOL 02 $59.99

MMW ATLAS ERA JUNGLE ADVENTURE HC VOL 02 DM VAR ED 159 $59.99

MMW DAREDEVIL TP VOL 02 $24.99

MMW DAREDEVIL TP VOL 02 DM VAR ED 29 $24.99

MYSTIQUE BY BRIAN K VAUGHAN ULTIMATE COLLECTION TP $24.99

NAMOR FIRST MUTANT #10 $2.99

ONSLAUGHT UNLEASHED #4 (OF 4) $3.99

ORSON SCOTT CARDS SPEAKER FOR DEAD #5 (OF 5) $3.99

PIXAR PRESENTS CARS #1 $5.99

POWER MAN AND IRON FIST #5 (OF 5) $2.99

PUNISHER IN BLOOD TP $16.99

RUNAWAYS TP VOL 04 TRUE BELIEVERS DIGEST NEW PTG $9.99

RUSE #3 (OF 4) $2.99

SECRET AVENGERS #13 FEAR $3.99

SECRET WARRIORS #27 $2.99

SPIDER-GIRL #7 $2.99

SPIDER-MAN #14 $2.99

SUPREME POWER MGC #1 $1.00

THUNDERSTRIKE TP YOUTH IN REVOLT $14.99

ULTIMATE COMICS CAPTAIN AMERICA PREM HC $19.99

ULTIMATE WAR PREM HC $19.99

UNCANNY X-MEN #537 $3.99

VENOM #3 $2.99

WOLVERINE #9 $3.99

X-MEN EARTH'S MUTANT HEROES #1 $4.99

X-MEN LEGACY #249 $2.99

X-MEN SPOTLIGHT $3.99

[ReZourceman]

I will do a post about my favourite stories soon.

 

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Regarding next weeks releases;

 

- All THREE GLs in one week? Jesus Christ. Now that is a fucking treat.

- Not a surprise, but STILL no Guarding the Globe. Sort it fucking out. :/

- Wasn't expecting it being there because I know that (two weeks ago I think) it still wasn't done, but its a shame that Invincible's schedule is struggling so much, despite there not being epic space battles to draw now. I think is persual (sp) of "Every issue should be better/more detailed than the last" is pushing him into dangerously slow territory

[Happenstance]

Glad to hear your favourite stories are coming, I was getting worried it'd just be Paj answering the question!

 

Yeah I was suprised about all 3 GLs in one week, how many more issues does this story have left anyway?

[ReZourceman]

I wondered the same. I'm pretty sure its just one, as I seem to remember on the checklist it was 3 months worth, and then an issue of just Green Lantern in the fourth month (which would make it ten parts too, nice and concise).

[gmac]

yeah it's a 10 part story (just enough so they can put out 2 trades )

 

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now with regards to favourite stories

 

Batwoman: Elegy - Detective Comics #854 - 860

by Greg Ruck and JH Williams III

 

Astonishing X-Men #1-24 and Giant Size

by Joss Whedon and John Cassaday

 

Walt Simonson's Thor run Thor #337 - 382

epic story after epic story

 

Planetary #1 - 27

awesome book by Warren Ellis and John Cassaday, glad I didn't get it in single issue format though, 11 years from issue 1 to issue 27

[Dante]

DC Comics has released solicitation for August.

 

My favorite covers:

[Dan_Dare]

I need to read more DC, I think.

 

hit me

[gmac]

I can highly recommend Secret Six by Gail Simone

 

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Cory Walker is doing another couple of issues of Invincible, hopefully this means Ottley can catch up and get back on a regular schedule

[ReZourceman]

Cory Walker is doing another couple of issues of Invincible, hopefully this means Ottley can catch up and get back on a regular schedule

 

Doubt it. Don't even get why its being solicited. 85 in August. We're 6 issues behind. :/

 

Rest of the solicits, there is some awesome stuff. Awesome Super Dinosaur cover.

 

http://imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?p=902842#902842

[ReZourceman]

[chairdriver]

[i kinda hate "realistic" art, which looks goodbad.]

[Happenstance]

DC Looking To Relaunch Everything In September?

 

DC recently stated that Flashpoint #5 would be the only comic they would be shipping on August 31st from the entire company. So what’s to follow it on September the 6th?

 

Ten years after the world changed, looks like the DC world will be changing too. Bleeding Cool has already talked about a major renumbering of DC’s books post-Flashpoint. And it looks like that will occur the first week of September, across the DCU board, with everything going back to #1.

 

And the DC solicitations for August do seem to back that up. There’s a lot of finality going around…

 

Brightest Day Aftermath: The Search For Swamp Thing (3 of 3)

 

The search ends here as John Constantine finally finds out Swamp Thing’s dark motives

 

Action Comics #904

 

Now it all comes down to a weakened Superman versus the monster known as Doomslayer in this, the epic finale of “Reign of the Doomsdays”!

 

Detective Comics #881

 

This is it – the finale so twisted, so shocking we can’t even begin to give away details here! Be there for the extra-sized conclusion of the acclaimed run by Scott Snyder, Jock and Francesco Francavilla.

 

Batman Gates Of Gotham #5 (pushing through two issues in August)

 

And in issue #5, it’s Batman vs. The Architect! The downfall of a major Gotham family! The betrayal of Damian Wayne! It’s all here in this final issue, plus the untold fate of Gotham City’s first Super Villain!

 

Superman #714

 

Superman hits Seattle for his last stop on his “Grounded” walk across the country, and it is in that city where everything will come to a head!

 

Superman/Batman #87

 

It’s the brutal final chapter of “The Secret”!

 

Add that the Green Lantern books are in “epilogue” mode, the Wonder Woman finale has been pushed to August,

 

Gotham City Sirens #28

 

A secret that goes back to the very first issue of GOTHAM CITY SIRENS will be revealed at last!

 

Birds Of Prey #15

 

In the concluding chapter of “War and Remembrance,” Lady Blackhawk and the original Phantom Lady are in the clutches of an enemy whose evil has lain dormant for decades!

 

Superboy #11 (pushing through two issues in August)

 

Then in #11 Jeff Lemire and Pier Gallo bring the saga of “The Hollow Men” to its explosive conclusion!

 

Supergirl #67

 

But before she can leave, first she has to save the kids of the Silk Pajama Society, stop the bad guy from unleashing his devastating plan upon the world, and attend one last orientation session!

 

Wonder Woman #614

 

The all-new Wonder Woman reaches the end of her epic “Odyssey” and comes face-to-face with the malevolent force behind it all!

 

Adventure Comics #529

 

The final, fatal battle for the Legion Academy freshman class. Is this the end of the Academy at Cosmic King’s hand?

 

Legion Of Superheroes #16

 

The finale to the battle with the Legion of Super-Villains!

 

T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents #10

 

The T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents make a final stand against The Iron Maiden in the present, as a bitter truth about the villainess and Colleen is revealed in a look back at the past. One of the most critically acclaimed books of the year reaches the shocking finale of its latest chapter

 

With Green Lantern books on epilogue, Teen Titans getting two issues out to hit and #100 in August and even more “things will never be the same again” solicitations than usual as well, everything is lining up for a big big change in September.

 

So why is everything going back to #1? And what does the end of Flashpoint mean for the rest of the titles?

 

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/05/17/dc-looking-to-relaunch-everything-in-september/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool+Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29

 

 

If that does indeed happen then i'll be very interested to see what happens with all the books and characters.

[ReZourceman]

Now THAT has me excited about Flashpoint.

[Daft]

So...wait...DC are doing a massive reset? Someone explain this to the layman.

 

Also Gates of Gotham #5?! I haven't even received the first issue.

[ReZourceman]

So...wait...DC are doing a massive reset? Someone explain this to the layman.

 

Also Gates of Gotham #5?! I haven't even received the first issue.

 

With DC its a decadely thing. :p

 

Well, we don't know exactly what this means but it elludes to the fact that the finale of Flashpoint will have very major repurcussions throughout the DC universe.

 

I'm willing to wager Abin Sur's return will be one of them.

[Daft]

Sweet. I love #1s.

 

GIVE ME BATMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN.

 

Wait, is this EVERYTHING? So like Batman Beyond, too?

[Happenstance]

Well we don't know yet, we don't know how Flashpoint will end.

 

All the books resetting to #1 doesn't have to mean a reboot but all them doing it at once does seem to signal some big changes.

[ReZourceman]

Ooooh could explain GL Sinestro.

[Daft]

SPEAK EEEEENGLIIISH!!!!

 

Well we don't know yet, we don't know how Flashpoint will end.

 

All the books resetting to #1 doesn't have to mean a reboot but all them doing it at once does seem to signal some big changes.

 

What do you mean 'all' the books?

[Happenstance]

SPEAK EEEEENGLIIISH!!!!

 

 

 

What do you mean 'all' the books?

 

I can only tell you what that article I posted has already said, thats all the news we know on this.