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How disappointing... A remaster of a 2 year old game? No wonder they didn't show much of it! Pretty dodgy and misleading of them if this is true.

I didn't think anything could make this thing look uglier but putting it next to the Series X and showing just how enormous it is has done it And it looks like it could be even bigger, the BD drive looks pretty small there compared to the PS4/Series X

So Spider-Man is their big launch game? It's weird how they barely showed any of that, I can't really think back to the trailer, might have to watch it again. So in terms of (big) first party reveals it's that, Horizon 2 and Ratchet. I think I got it into my head they would make Horizon their launch game so to not even get a date for the sequel is disappointing.

Playstation have never had strong first years, but at least with Spider Man at launch (?) it feels like they're learning, and there's enough good looking games there to tide people over I think.

That was ok. I wouldn't say much of it looked "next gen" Horizon 2 was always going to show up, shame no gameplay and even bigger shame it isn't a launch game. Not even a 2021 date suggests it's a while off

Phew. Hopefully I can throw a bag over that ugly thing. Looks like something a concept designer from the year 2000 would come with if you told him the brief was "futuristic"

Wow, that's one UGGGGLY console

This has fallen off a cliff. Hopefully a strong finish to end things... Astrobot game looked ROUGH. Not quite the PS5 impression you want to give

Started well but the middle is really dragging for me Horizon 2 to finish off will redeem it

Sackboy might have looked ok if it wasn't playing at 15fps

Stray looks beautiful. "Please don't be first person like Cyberpunk"

10 seconds of gameplay was enough to tell you that was a Japanese developed game

That was a weird GT gameplay segment lol

I usually temper expectations with things like this but it's been years since Playstation has revealed anything big, and with the show being an hour long my expectations are through the roof. Exciting!

Stating the obvious but I imagine Covid is delaying things a fair bit. Nintendo's E3 show would have been this week and with that I imagine we'd have had a new big update, possibly even released that same day. Maybe something like that is around the corner, who knows.

I know it does, I'm the one who told you about inflation when I was explaining why games are cheaper than they've ever been these days. And so does Ashley, because he brought it up after your £50 cheaper comment. How many people bought an Xbox One X though really? And anyway I think £500 would be steep but just about manageable at a push. I was speaking mostly about any price over 500. Ridicule will come at any day and age, be it at the PS3 reveal or nowadays, the reasons may vary but it can still happen with one slip up. More so these days in fact with social media being everywhere. I said that no one has inflation in their minds when they think of a product in 2017 and a similar product in 2020. Tech improving in a new generation is a given.

You're the one who said it was £50 cheaper in the first place, till Ashley brought up inflation. Not that anyone actually considers inflation when the timeframe is just three years anyway. In terms of mindshare £50 is 2017 may as well be £50 in 2020 to most people. Point is you can't compare a luxury product meant for hardcore gamers with the base model of a new gen. The price needs to be much more accessible in the latter's case. So no, I didn't find a super powerful console like the Xbox One X to be prohibitively expensive. Playstation were ridiculed at the PS3 launch, for a number of reasons, but price was a big one, they could get away with £500 for the PS5 but any more than that... Better tech isn't a reason why prices should increase, it's expected. Otherwise the PS5 should be 100x what the NES cost.

Different situation. The Xbox One X was a premium product that was marketed as a more powerful Xbox One, a luxury meant for hardcore gamers. It was also, as you say £50 cheaper. These new consoles are the base hardware of a brand new generation. It's a very different sell.

I get that these consoles are super powerful beasts of terraflops and stuff, but Playstation got ridiculed for their PS3 price tag, and it took years for them to claw lost ground back, are they really going to risk another disaster like that with a price over £500? Even £500 seems steep though I suppose 1 grand giant phones have maybe desensitised people to spending a lot.

After two barren weeks, Redd is around. The academic painting is real if anyone wants it... Shop: No flower watering needed :-)

No surprise its just a week later, looking forward to it. "cool audio work", uh oh, getting horrible flashbacks to that flute segment in Sony's E3 show a couple years back

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