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Did they "shaft their fans", though? I get we were hoping for big hitters, but let's not pretend that the games they showed aren't going to be enjoyable (aside from amiibo Festival)

Ok, then stop posting that you don't care. If you didn't care, you'd not be coming and posting it all So really, you do care and secretly want them to improve, as we all do.

He didn't say continue. Reggie is spinning.

It was an apology. All native Japanese speakers I know have said that. I don't know what drugs Reggie is on, but I want some.

Puppet amiibo. Make it happen!

So because I'm not being all "waaaaa Nintendo sucks", I'm "bringing down the atmosphere"? Nice. I do admit, I am getting fed up with some of the people here, and it's interesting how people came out of the woodwork just to be negative after all the positivity Nintendo has had the past year. Also nice to see a staff member resort to personal insults when none were utilised by me in doing so. Great showing there. I'll probably get banned for pointing this out, too.

My issue is Sony presenting it as a kickstarter at their conference. If they had said "Look, Shenmue 3 and we're funding it", I'd be "Oh that's awesome.", but the way they went about it is what I have issues with. The kickstarter was un-necessary. I'm not being a fanboy here. I'm actually very level headed, just not jumping on the toxic hate train doesn't make me a fanboy. I mean hell, look at the like/dislikes on the Steamworld Heist video on Nintendo's Youtube. The toxicity is out of control and indies are being hit by it just because people are grumpy they showed a Metroid spin-off. It's that toxicity that annoys me. Nintendo messed up with E3, yes, but this is beyond ridiculous and is bleeding over to here, as if this place wasn't toxic enough already.

Where did I say Nintendo's E3 wasn't bad? I have agreed that they missed the mark. Yeesh. Just because I'm not jumping on the toxic vitriol train you guys and the rest of the Internet is does not mean I think it was good. Also it is not a great precedent to set. It really is horrible for it to be a massive focus at an E3 conference. It's terrible and indicative of how the industry is failing, despite Kickstarting games being a fantastic thing. Also, again, "winning" as a concept that people keep throwing around every E3 is utterly moronic. Exactly. That's the point I'm making. They should have just said that from the get go, not just go with the kickstarter bull

God, you're such a fanboy it's ridiculous. You can't see that the Kickstarter thing was horrific anda very dangerous precedent to set? I also didn't say E3 news doesn't trickle out. I said that the idea of "winning E3" is ridiculous.

Think they said on Treehouse that the aim is for this year I agree that Shinen should be snapped up by Nintendo. They're amazing. They managed those awesome graphics in Nano Assault Neo in 45 MB of space. It's incredible.

Xenoblade was out in the 12 months. I agree it shouldn't have had a big focus at this E3, and thankfully it hadn't. Yoshi is out next week so it's just out of the 12 month period of E3. Again, it shouldn't have had a big E3 segment, especially one that long. Yikes. Mario Maker is 2015, sure, but it was originally Early 2015 and then got delayed. Who cares who won E3? That's such an Internet fanboy bullshit thing. It should be one company showed this, it was awesome, another showed this, it was also awesome. Why does one have to "win". Also, the kickstarter thing isn't incredible, it's fucking diabolical and disgusting. The Shenmue Kickstarter at the conference left a horrifically bitter taste in my mouth, despite the fact Shenmue is awesome.

That was because it had to be proven.

Hope so. That's still two years away. I've said before that Sony had a fantastic E3, but it was a year early. The stuff they showed would have made for a fantastic E3 2016, but in 2015, the stuff that generated all the hype and the "Oh my god, Sony has won E3" statements is just too far away.

Hype last year for Nintendo didn't translate into sales. It's erroneous to assume it always does. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but Nintendo seemed to forget that it appears to be what people want to see at E3. Sony did it to sugarcoat the fact that the have practically nothing for this year whereas Nintendo showed things for this year (and the Wii U does have a solid lineup for the year) but nothing for beyond that. Both need to find a middleground and Microsoft had that.

FFXV has also been in development for a while. It was shown in what, 2006? Where is it now? When is it coming? Just because it has been "in development for a while" is in no way an indicator that it's imminent

Well I'm sure they've learned from Sony that they can show a CG trailer for something over 2 years away and people will go batshit crazy so hopefully they won't make the same mistake again.

It'd have more potential to sell than if it were on the Wii U.

GCN adapter is back in stock http://store.nintendo.co.uk/wii-u-accessories/gamecube-controller-adapter-for-wii-u/11028551.html

I agree, but it doesn't fit the game.

Yeah, what possible reason would there be to upload directly to youtube. It doesn't make sense for this game

Where did that come from? Nothing new about that has been made clear. All he did was explain the origins of Starfox 23 years ago Nintendo has supported the Wii U more than any other console. That's the thing. Yes, they messed up with third parties but that doesn't mean that they haven't been supporting it themselves. Therefore, the statement is erroneous. It's not an opinion or an interpretation.

Say what you will about the content of the Digital Event, but the tone and presentation was top notch, and Treehouse has been awesome again this year. Nintendo are still doing brilliantly at presenting their info, they just messed up on what info to present. I never said otherwise. I know there were droughts due to the lack of third party, but the notion that Nintendo didn't support the Wii U is erroneous As for how long the games are, you can say that for every non-open world game these days.

I'm expecting an apology Direct in a few weeks, like we had in June 2012

Oh sod off. Nintendo have supported the Wii U very well. Let me get the list out. Here is a list of first party published titles for the Wii U up to the end of 2015 New Super Mario Bros. U Nintendo Land Sing Party Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (Published by Nintendo outside of Japan) Lego City Undercover Game & Wario Pikmin 3 New Super Luigi U The Wonderful 101 The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Wii Party U Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games Super Mario 3D World Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Sonic Lost World Wii Fit U Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Mario Kart 8 Wii Sports Club Hyrule Warriors Bayonetta 2 Bayonetta Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker Kirby and the Rainbow Curse Mario Party 10 Splatoon Super Mario Maker Yoshi's Woolly World Art Academy Atelier Fatal Frame: Oracle of the Sodden Raven Xenoblade Chronicles X Devil's Third Star Fox Zero Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival Total: 36 Plus download only: Art Academy: SketchPad Pokémon Rumble U NES Remix Dr. Luigi Wii Karaoke U by JOYSOUND (Europe only) NES Remix 2 Pushmo World Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars amiibo tap: Nintendo's Greatest Bits Total: 9 So that's 45 Nintendo published titles on the Wii U. So don't go parroting around bullshit that there was nothing. There's an average of just under one (0.97) first party published retail title a month for the Wii U Now, just to be an ass. I'm going to compare PS4 retail titles Killzone: Shadow Fall Knack Driveclub Infamous Second Son LittleBigPlanet 3 Minecraft MLB 14: The Show (Retail version in North America, digital download only in PAL) SingStar: Ultimate Party[5] (PAL only) The Last of Us Remastered The Order: 1886 Bloodborne MLB 15: The Show God of War III Remastered Until Dawn Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection Tearaway Unfolded Total of 16 Sony published retail titles on PS4 over 25 months. That's an average of 0.64 a month They did do more download titles and have funded & published a lot of indie titles, so granted they do have that. That takes them up to 52 titles for the PS4. And Microsoft Dead Rising 3 Forza Motorsport 5 Killer Instinct Pin Ultimate Edition Ryse: Son of Rome Zoo Tycoon Forza Horizon 2 Halo: The Master Chief Collection Killer Instinct: Combo Breaker Pack Kinect Sports Rivals Minecraft Project Spark Sunset Overdrive Forza Motorsport 6 Gears of War Ultimate Edition Halo 5: Guardians Rare Replay Rise of the Tomb Raider ScreamRide State of Decay: Year-One Survival Edition Total: 19 Again, over 25 months, that's an average of 0.76 retail titles a month. So yeah, don't spout your bullcrap here. Nintendo have supported the Wii U, very much so. They even had equivalent launch support for the Wii U to the PS4 had

Well said