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I suppose. Looking at the 360 though, it's around £18-30 sale value on CEX now (model dependent) and even then backwards compatibility only works with so many games. Wouldn't surprise me if the Wii U was worth similar money by the point its successor had formidable BC. Don't get me wrong, I get it has utility but don't get the excitement some have for it. It's surely one of the best things to sacrifice if it means making a better console in other areas.

Can't help but agree with this. Literally can't understand the fuss about Red Dead Redemption compatibility. On the off chance I wanted to replay if I would just boot up my PS3.

Impressed by that price point. Not that it would be a viable thing for over 95% of us, financially, for a generation or so probably.

So very sorry to hear this. Since reading this post about an hour ago I've just been sitting here in shock, so I can't even imagine what this must be like for you. You've always been a great person to have on these forums and I am genuinely very upset to hear this. To have it so together like you have right now is inspiring. Much love MadDog.

Good times.

Yeah, I get that. It's not for everyone, but I can easily understand it being high up the list. It's such a massive game that has taken the world by storm - it has crazy amounts of potential and appeals to young and old alike. I personally love it and think it makes for a great creative and social experience. A lot of other games on that list I would just play and enjoy, then shelve. Minecraft is a game I've always come back to.

Minecraft should beat almost anything put out...it's just an incredible game that you only see once in a while. Its impact on the gaming world has been unbelievable.

It's Nintendo's social media thing where you can post game pictures, doodles and comments, and can see what other pictures and comments other people post. Like its own Facebook but for games.

Well done on putting this together, I think it's a really good idea. I realise this is a Nintendo forum but I thought it was cool when you referenced the popularity of the Destiny topic in terms of a broader discussion of Nintendo and this forum. Referencing the forum and its members (maybe even a little off-topic bants) as well as Nintendo is a surefire way of getting more people here to tune in every episode (ie. not just hardcore Nintendo fans). Well done!

Eh man, can't tell with you when you're taking the biscuit or not. If that was genuine then don't worry about it, I wasn't really annoyed about it. I actually find this discussion quite interesting in terms of seeing who prefers which features.

Must you be so incessantly melodramatic? I don't see any problem with people referencing someone else and relating their own opinions to it. Nobody is calling anyone else a dickhead.

Since people said what features they want in the new update, which naturally leads to comparisons.

Now now, I clearly addressed my comment towards notifications rather than the system OS at a whole. That said...what you said is really not far from the truth. I find it a little funny that you're trying to compare the features of two OS when you clearly didn't know the core features of the PS4 OS. Maybe do a little research before you throw out snarky comments like this?

You can't get pop up notifications of people messaging/inviting you on Wii U so as far as I'm concerned it has no useful notification system. You literally can't matchmake, which is the main reason you even need notifications. We can't seriously be recommending the PS4 take a leaf out of Wii U's book regarding notifications? Regarding the activity log - I'm not sure I ever really checked this or found a need for it on the 3DS. I suppose you would call this information mildly interesting. The activity log is recapitulated within many games themselves anyway, either on save states or a stats page (ie. "total hours played").

Like others say, rest mode. Literally the quickest way to get back into a game - you press the PS button, see the PS logo on the screen, then straight into the game/app.

There is an activity log (in terms of who played what and when) but no friend login notifications (just joining party notifications). They had friend login notifications on PS3 but not on PS4...it's weird. I don't get the need for a home screen redesign though, nor have I heard many people crying out for a redesign. For the vast majority of people it's setup exactly how it is needed - for quick access to the last 4-5 games you played.

They need to add a proper friend list system - I only care when certain people join a party (or come online). Favourite groups just don't really work. Folders is so far down the list of being useful to me - I only play a few games at a time so the current display works well for my uses.

Uncharted 2 is a quality game (and also the best Uncharted game). Glad you enjoyed it.

It's true that they held your attention for hours back then but look at it from a newcomers perspective - most games that make any impact or offer something new to the world of gaming are copied and refined - even if just in sequels from the same developer. It's hard to see how an early monster hunter game can ever be viewed the same way by people who first played MH4U compared with legacy players, for instance. If we go by readjusting how good we think games are as time passes then any old titles in series like Pokemon will progressively become 'worse', as new titles become more and more refined in just about every way. Graphics of old games will age, while gameplay mechanics of new games will become more sophisticated, set pieces more grande, and generally higher tech allows for much more sophisticated game setups. That's not to say new games supersede old games always, but certain aspects of games will usually always age over time. I believe that original games in series that haven't gone on to change too radically often gave you more entertainment as it was a fresh new experience, and not only that; original titles are the ones that displayed these brilliant new idea and broke waves. Those ideas usually have less and less effect the more you encounter them. I think Nostalgia does play a part in forming these judgements (new players to a series won't suffer any franchise fatigue) - but in a good way. A lot of how we feel about games is a product of how things were at the time. Even if an old game no longer stands up to more modern games/sequels in the same genre, I don't think it's right to take away our past praise. Let's not forget the most important thing - what they once made us feel. Not how we judge them as late twenty something all these years on.

Holy shit, without the laughter there is literally no point to it.

Thanks for doing it your way. The tag way does not work on Tapatalk.

Yeah, you guys. Just to put you all at rest because I can see some peeps are getting angsty. Majora's Mask > OoT > Wind Waker > TP > SS Now we can all go to bed feeling a little more comfortable.

I think judging whether a game is timeless or not is a different thing to gauging how great a game it is (or was). If a game released tomorrow blows me away like nothing that came before it, I would say it's one of the best games ever, regardless of whether or not each element of the game gets assimilated and cloned with improvements by masses of games over the next 10 years. In my case, I believe I can look back at a game and remember those that gave me such extreme levels of enjoyment, regardless of whether the same company released 10 sequels afterwards that just took more of the same and refined it. I will always consider Pokemon Red and Blue to be amazing games worthy of every drop of praise they received, regardless of how many games came after; they were the games that blew you away because you'd never had it before. No sequel can ever achieve that feeling again - unless you're new to the series and play one of the later games first. I think nostalgia bias is an interesting one - I would use this to describe people who believe specific aspects of old games are better than what we have today (e.g. random battles with loading screens that take you out of the action). That said, I see the opposite of nostalgia bias to be a worse thing - marking down games that were ridiculously entertaining at the time because they have aged by modern day standards. For me, I don't really care - I'd consider a game amazing so long as it entertains me greatly. If it still seems that great in 10 years, that's just a bonus.

I've been buying stuff for my Japan trip. First up is 2 of these: Tickets to the Studio Ghibli Museum near Tokyo. This place looks seriously ace: We also booked accommodation for the 2 weeks, staying at Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka and at a place in Kanso along the Kumano Kodo walking trail. This includes staying at a couple of capsule hostels! We've also booked some pretty good seats to see Sumo in the final week of the Osaka tournament. I've been buying lots of things for the trip too like comfortable, slip-on shoes, a good 55L backpack, plus plenty of other bits. Then there's the JR rail pass for travel across most of Japan for a couple of weeks and a wifi receiver. Then there's also going to be the amount of Yen to buy - one of the best things I'm looking forward to is the food, which I can imagine I'll be spending a lot on. I really want to go to Nishiki market in Kyoto: It would also be fun to take on some ridiculous food challenges like this: (also one of the cheapest places to get Kobe beef) God damn expensive this will be but cannot wait.

Going to Amsterdam tomorrow, sorry.