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I've never known a game ending to cause so much debate. It's actually more interesting than if we had a real, good ending . I find it hard to believe what we've been given is the end. Something also bugging me is the voices during the Illusive man/Shepard/Anderson scene. Just can't quite work out what they're saying. The whole scene is bloody strange anyway as Shepard is the only one really who should be there. The other two seem to be like the Angel and Devil on your shoulder. No way Anderson and Illusive man made it into that beam.

Oh no I didn't mean the ending on the planet. The dreams where you see the kid then he goes up in flames. The last dream your sitting with the kid smiling. Whilst real you is watching from afar. I can't help feel there's a deeper meaning to these dreams... The more I think about the Indoctrination theory the more it makes sense. From a direction/audio point of view everything after you get blasted is just 'off'. Like the weird background noise constantly, the voices...In the ending how does the Illusive man have the power to make Shepard shoot Anderson? Saren didn't have that power, not instantaneously like that. It's just all too surreal like you say. The synthesis option is a weird one, especially as it only appears once you get complete military strength. If we're continuing with the Indoctrination theory, full military strength would mean the biggest threat to Harbinger. So it's way to counter is to give an even more pursuasive option to Shepard, in order to stop him. It worked in my case as I saw this being the final end to the cycles. Though in reality it probably just turned everyone into reapers. I think if nothing comes out of this I'll probably keep this theory as the real ending. It's better

I didn't quite understand the last dream you have. Where your looking at yourself with the kid.

I regret choosing synthesis, I just didn't want to kill the Geth.

This guy certainly has a lot of good points. Also if he is in any way right. I'd feel like an idiot...I should have chosen to destroy the fuckers.

I thought it might have been. He burned off my Terminus Armor....the bastard. Still don't get how that happened...

I have so many questions about the game and the ending it's beyond count! A lot of people seem to think that we just want a 'happy' ending. I couldn't give a shit if they all died and the reapers won at least it'd be closure. It just feels like a kick in the nuts that everything I went through for the whole 3 games was basically for nothing. The destruction of the reapers storyline (which I'd treat as a renegade option) seems to be the best! That in itself is a shit ending because the entire universe is screwed anyway as they're all trapped in the Sol system. I don't appreciate the game culminating in 3 really crap choices from space kid. However do you guys/gals not feel the whole ending as a little 'off' pretty much after Shepard gets blown up before the beam? A few questions I have; Why is space boy the same kid Shepard has been dreaming about in the whole game? How the hell did Anderson end up in the Citadel? More to the point how did the Illusive man end up there!? When Shepard ascends to space boys hideout, where is he? It looks as if he's standing next to the beam which would mean he's in a vacuum? How is it people in London are in the Normandy at the end? No fight with Harbinger? Was that him on the planet in front of the beam? I would expect a fight/conflict of some sort! I chose the synthesis ending. So why does the green energy cause the Normandy to crash? Does this mean it caused all the other fleets to crash/blow up? The Crucible was planned as a weapon the entire game. I even picked up several war assets indicating it would 'target reapers'. So why is it suddenly a control device? I can take a bittersweet ending. If Shepard/Anderson have to sacrifice themselves then fair enough. The way it actually panned out was just shit. No explanation whatsoever what happened to everyone. Apart from the randoms who appeared on the Normandy. Was anyone else pissed that the final scene was Joker?? I mean what the shit! How did they think any of that ending was good. Poor, poor execution to such a great franchise.

In reference to the ending

I don't know if this has been mentioned but I don't want to look through all the spoilers. Basically my romance with Liara didn't continue from the Shadow Broker DLC. She's still acting as if we only 'romanced' in ME1. Anyone else have any issues?

R.I.P GAME. Just switched to Shopto. Cheaper too...

I don't think I'll be able to stop myself downloading it in all honesty...

What does the demo involve exactly? I'm not on a media blackout or anything but I don't really want to see anything massive storywise...

I always thought they were loosely connected anyway. The Red Alert timeline has gone pretty crazy now though. I'm a bit of a veteran of the series. I was gutted that the only way I could play the recent installments was on Xbox but to their credit the controls were done pretty damn well in Red Alert 3 and Kane's Wrath. Really enjoyed the C&C 3 series however Red Alert 3 was intentionally cheesy and cartoonish and I don't think it should've been. The previous 2 were wild in terms of story but at least they were semi-serious about it. Being able to build on sea was a nice touch but all the units just looked daft. Moving around these ridiculous looking tanks with huge oversized canons...kept thinking they'd just shoot and a flag with 'BANG' on would come out. Very disappointed. Really lament the loss of Westwood studios. Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 were my favourites so i'm interested to see what a new studio can do with it. I think a merging of the story lines would be really cool. Not too much of a push for the imagination considering both Allies and Soviets have time travel.

I call for a new system. The "Don't take me seriously" tag.

If their updates are as frequent as their release dates for games we could expect one...well a year at least.

Thanks for that people it's been a great help! I'm hopefully going to borrow someone from works power pack. I wonder if my Wii simply couldn't handle Zelda . Not sure i'd buy a new Wii for it though...

Right guys/gals. Not sure if anyone can help me at all but basically I plugged in my Wii this evening and nothing. No light. Completely dead. It's a launch Wii. Is there any way to tell if it's the power supply or the console itself? I hadn't used it in months until Zelda came out. It's been in Standby most evenings. I don't really want to replace the console if it's the power supply...any advice would be grand.

Pretty much sums up my impressions and i'm at exactly the same point. I'm a little disappointed in the music. I was thinking "Yes! Fire world, hopefully some dark and brooding music like in OOT". It starts and it's just....too happy. Like all the music so far. Also i'm really not getting to grip with the controls. It never really seems to do what I want in a battle and (now this is ultra picky) I don't like the way Link holds the sword as he's running around. He essentially holds it the way you are, which for me is straight forward, and he just looks a bit like an idiot. I'm hoping it'll change my view deeper into the game.

Played this for a good few hours. I'm liking it so far, it's definitely different. The highlights so far for me have been the story and the cinematics. Controls have been a little fiddly and took a while to get used to. Music has been pretty good but not stand out so far. Some of it has really worked and some still hasn't moved on from the 'plinkety plonk' style of TP (like as if it's all done on xylophone).

Got mine today. Will play it after work. Just listening to the CD, it's pretty epic!

Good to hear. I do think they've overdone it on the challenge maps though. I mean, there's shitloads there just for 1 character. Let alone playing them with an extra 2!

Got this today and absolutely loving it so far. Plenty of nods to old Mario but Mario 3 in general. Just little things bring a smile to my face. I'm a bit shit so I keep dying on stupid things, and i'm only on world 2! My only concern is that the world map is pretty shit and the worlds aren't themed. Then again neither were the ones in Mario 1. I guess they found it too difficult to not redo the same themes.

That must be a bitch. I really wasn't expecting it to come via seperate post. Let alone a day early. I can't complain as I have Super Mario 3D Land to contend with.

That's the thing i've never had an issue with just collecting it at the end of the day. Usually it says wait 8 hours. Not frigging 24! I'm going to try my luck after work anyways.

Question guys and gals. I was at work when mine came, got home to a collection slip. Why the shit does it say 24 hours before collection!?! Surely I can just go down at 4ish and pick it up. Where the hell else is it going to be?