Mokong Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 Yes, wicked to see Anderson on board for even just one of the films. Why did Sci-fi even bother to cancel the show if they were gonna show the rest of the season?
rokhed00 Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 Why did Sci-fi even bother to cancel the show if they were gonna show the rest of the season? It's all about the money. Colonel Ellis sucks, what happened to Caldwell?
Happenstance Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Third series is Stargate Universe The working title of the third Stargate television series has been unveiled! The series currently exists in the form of a one-page treatment of the story and characters, with the title Stargate Universe, executive producer Robert C. Cooper told GateWorld exclusively. The new series has been conceived to be "a completely separate, third entity," Cooper said in an interview -- "much more so than Atlantis was. Atlantis was much more of a spin-off seires of SG-1 and was sort of born out of SG-1." Like many of the producers ideas, Cooper said, the idea for Stargate Universe was originally conceived as a stand-alone movie. "When we originally were sitting around talking about this we were trying to come up with ideas for a Stargate feature -- not an SG-1 feature or an Atlantis feature, but a feature that would fit into the Stargate franchise that we feel we have created," Cooper said. "We were thinking, 'How do we create a third arm to the franchise that is very connective and that fans will feel is born out of the material that has come before, but at the same time is very much something that stands alone?' "When it became clear that a third series was a more realistic possibility at this point from the studio's standpoint, we figured out how to tweak that idea and give it a little more legs than it would have had as a one-off story. We always, in the back of our minds even in coming up with that concept, felt that it could launch a third series. ... But now that idea has become the core idea for the new show." Stargate Universe will not be set in a different era, Cooper confirmed, neither as a prequel nor in the far future of the Stargate program. "I'm not a big fan of prequels," he said. "I don't think that really works, and I don't really understand people who do think that works. One of the things that we love about Stargate is that is us -- it's our military, it's our scientists, it's our people -- and we're going out into the galaxy and the universe to discover all the wonders that are out there, and dealing with our own limitations versus things that are far more advanced than us. "That's identifiable. It's what we deal with every day, in terms of medicine and science and astrophysics. We're just babies in all that. And we would always want to maintain that in anything that is Stargate-related." In spite of being quite distinct in identity from SG-1 and Atlantis, the new series will be unmistakably Stargate. "It certainly plays into the mythology that has been pre-established," Cooper said. "But it doesn't directly relate to anything that has been in either series." Cooper and executive producer Brad Wright plan to turn more attention to the new show's pilot script after wrapping principal photography on the two Stargate SG-1 movies, Stargate: The Ark of Truth and Stargate: Continuum this June. Stay with GateWorld for the very latest developments! Taken From Gateworld
motion Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I lost faith in these moronic producers years ago. I dread to think how awful this third series is gonna be.
Shino Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Great news! I'm really curious to see how it will be.
AeroScap Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I lost faith in these moronic producers years ago. I dread to think how awful this third series is gonna be. Thing is I think they have gotten better over the years, especially with Atlantis. I am firmly in the Atlantis> SG-1 camp.
The Bard Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Thats ridiculous. SG-1 is infinately superior to Atlantis. Infact, SG-1 is vastly superior to just about any Sci-Fi series.
AeroScap Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Care to elaborate? On both of your statements. I find the atlantis cast infinitely more developed. Whereas compared to them the SG-1 cast is very 2D e.g. Carter is "teh smart one", whereas Mckay is "teh smart one with a supriority complex and a fear of any form of danger". There is jst more depth.
The Bard Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Care to elaborate? On both of your statements. No. No not really. Nyeah.
AeroScap Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I believe by virtue of a reply you have indirectly elaborated on your point; kind forum troll.
The Bard Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I believe by virtue of a reply you have indirectly elaborated on your point; kind forum troll. That's interesting. Of course, it's complete gibberish, but it's interesting nontheless. SG-1 was superior for many many reasons: It's ties to ancient mythology, and human history was part of the draw for me. Atlantis totally lacks any episodes as classic and unforgettable as "Upgrades" or "Window of Opportunity," just to name two out of a selection of over 200. Sheppard is also boring when stood next to the infinitely amusing and endearing O' Neill. The cast in Atlantis are thoroughly disinteresting , walking cliche's. I admit that some of the characters in SG-1 we're stereotypes, but that never came in the way, you felt totally attatched to them. None of the magic that made SG-1 what it was is there in Atlantis, and I kinda doubt it'll be there for this new series either.
AeroScap Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Well with time you get classics. I always found the ancient mythology with Egypt kinda weak, caus you will get high tech super soliders then suddenly you are in a pre-fab egypt themed pimp den! Window of opportunity was class, not so sure about upgrades but the episode "2010" is FANTASTIC. From Atlantis you have top notch episodes such as "The Return" both parts, Critical Mass, Grace under Pressure, McKay and Mrs Miller (best performance by hewlett), The Ark (fantastic set), The Real World (fantastic tori episode with psychological mess around plot), Allies (for it's fantastic plot) and "The Siege" triology. Fantastic cinematography! I'd give you the O'neil> Sheppard but McKay is the comedy.
The Bard Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 McKay is alright. For me though, it's always gonna be SG-1 > Atlantis.
Happenstance Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I also prefer SG1 over Atlantis but I still enjoy watching SGA. I also like McKay but to be honest watching him complain every episode does annoy me a bit, it just gets boring. Still i look forward to seeing Amanda Tapping on Atlantis next year as she works really well with Hewlett.
motion Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 SG-1 seasons 1-6 = masterpiece of sci-fi/adventure SG-1 seasons 7-10 = utter shite. '200', 'Bounty', 'Family Ties' and probably 'Unending', EVEN MORE shitty. Atlantis = getting better as the show goes on but no where near the quality of SG-1 (s1-6), character wise, story wise and enemy wise. McKay = an annoying, predictable, whiney moron. Oh look, McKay's shouting this week again, what a surprise. All IMO.
somme Posted April 2, 2007 Author Posted April 2, 2007 I enjoyed the first season of Atlantis way more than any of the ones after. It held so much promise, a whole new galaxy, a whole city to explore, but we got lumbered with the Genii, the most boring enemy ever. The wraith were interesting but don't seem much of a threat anymore, and the replicators are...not as interesting as they could be. We rarely see the Stargate, which I miss, as the new DHD looks cool.
somme Posted February 17, 2008 Author Posted February 17, 2008 Second Spin-off Premise Leaked Stargate Universe Revealed! Tuesday - October 30, 2007 | by Darren Sumner & David Read [David to write intro] The new series will deal with the Ancients and their original program of building and distributing Stargates from planet to planet. Just how was this feat accomplished? What did the Ancients plan to do with all those thousands of Stargates once they were out there? Read on and find out. THE PREMISE "It's got to be two things that are contradictory: It has to be very different from Stargate, but it also has to feel like a Stargate. And to do that what we wanted to do was literally live up to the name -- the reason it's called Stargate Universe -- is because this is one step further out into the universe aboard a ship that was launched by the Ancients to cross the universe in exploration millennia, millennia, millennia ago." Did he say ... ship? Yes, and we're not talking about the kind between Sam and Jack. Stargate Universe looks to be a ship-based series, which will help set it apart from its two predecessors. But this isn't Stargate Daedalus -- like the city of Atlantis, the ship was built by the Ancients. "They had planned to go there and to see what was out there, but they all ascended and no one ever went to it. When we find out it's still out there and can be reached by using the ninth chevron on a Stargate, and that's what the ninth chevron is for." The ninth chevron, a mystery since the Stargate was first opened! In the Stargate SG-1 Season Two episode "The Fifth Race," we discovered that the normally unused eighth chevron is required for an extra distance calculation, allowing a gate (which can typically only connect to other gates in its own galaxy, using seven chevrons to dial an address) to dial a different galaxy. The mysterious ninth chevron, Wright indicates, enables a Stargate to connect directly to the advanced Ancient exploration ship no matter where it is in the universe. THE SHIP So the Ancients only launched the ship -- and ended up ascending before they could take up the mission of exploration across the galaxies. "That's what the Ancients did, because they knew with the faster-than-light travel that they had at the time ... They sent out two ships. They sent out one millions of years before it -- or certainly tens of thousands of years before it. The Ancients sent out a ship to seed Stargates, and this ship was to follow it up." The first ship manufactured Stargates them and sets them down, apparently automatically. "That's what the first ship did, and then this ship was the follow-up ship that was sent to explore the worlds where the Stargate had been placed." The Ancients were not only seeders of life, but they were also explorers. "Very much so," Wright said. "Very much so. They were looking for other beings such as themselves. And if you go backwards across the universe, you're going through time because you're going back in the history of the universe. Not that it's time travel, but you know what I'm saying. You're going to an older part of the universe. "And that's going to present stories and themes such as solar systems, entire civilizations where entropy has increased in the system so much that energy, in any form, is incredibly valuable. And here comes this ship rich with energy from a younger part of the galaxy. And they're going to want it. They're going to think we're rich. In fact, that's not going to be the case." THE TEAM In SG-1 and Atlantis, the basic formula for characters seems to be a core team of four people and a base leader. The team is made up of men and women who each bring their unique skills to the mission; some are military, some are not. While some of that will no doubt carry over to the third series, expect Stargate Universe to take a slightly different approach. "It doesn't quite work that way," Wright said of the team of four and a base leader. "There will be a team. It won't be, necessarily, a team of four -- and the base leader is going to be different. There is not going to be a base in the traditional sense." It may be too early to know if any established characters will be crossing over from either SG-1 or Atlantis, as Rodney McKay (David Hewlett) was brought over after a handful of memorable guest appearances on SG-1. That decision happened late in the game, during the casting process. And while Atlantis was cast largely with unknowns, Wright did say that he would love to cast an established, name actor in one of the new roles. "I would love to do that, but the casting process is always difficult," he said. "It's hard depending on when you're trying to do it. We had such a limited timeline for Atlantis because they picked us up so late in the day. We were writing in mid-November, we couldn't cast until January, and we had to shoot in mid-February. So that was kind of crazy." THE ENEMY Exploring multiple galaxies and parts of the universe where even the Ancients have never been means running into civilizations they never met, let alone seeded themselves (as is the case in the Milky Way and Pegasus Galaxies). The show's premise clearly sets up some good potential for interesting new enemies. So, what's it going to be? Snakes that take over your body and impersonate gods? Space vampires that suck the life out of you with their hands? "This is part of the pitch, so I'm not 100 percent sure this is going to be how it pans out: Robert and I have been talking about not having a 'Goa'uld' or a 'Wraith.' Certainly not up front. Enemies is exactly how we want to pursue it, as opposed to defining this bad alien force that defines the entire galaxy, [which is] what the Goa'uld and the Wraith were." HERE'S THE PITCH "We're pitching to SCI FI," Wright said. "Robert and I are actually going down this Friday to talk to SCI FI about Universe. ... That's all I can tell you. They may not buy it." Wright and Cooper intended to write the show's pilot script last summer, after finishing principal photography on the SG-1 movies Stargate: The Ark of Truth and Stargate: Continuum. "That didn't happen because we didn't want to do it in a vacuum, and it was something we might have done," Wright said. "We considered doing it. But to be frank, I felt rushed into Atlantis. And that's always the case, I'm sure. But I thought, 'If we don't have to, why are we? Why don't we do this properly? Why don't we take the time to do this properly?" What if SCI FI doesn't buy? While it would be next to impossible to get the show picked up by a major broadcast network, or to make enough money through a syndication deal, there are other cable networks in the U.S. where Universe might be a good fit. SpikeTV has been ramping up its production of original series in recent years. G4 is a new player, grabbing rerun rights to genre favorites like Star Trek and LOST. FX is a network that does well in key demographics. And then there are premium cable channels such as Showtime, where Stargate SG-1 began a decade ago. But, of course, SCI FI Channel is the most likely and most logical home for a third Stargate television series. The network's current strategy is to air original programming year-round -- but more than one of its new shows in the last year failed to be renewed (notably The Dresden Files and Painkiller Jane). So the need for new shows with a high chance of success is high. Stargate Universe could be paired with Atlantis (as Atlantis was paired with SG-1), or it could air during a different time of year. One thing that Wright is clear on: Don't expect Stargate Universe to debut online. "The online thing kind of went by the wayside just in terms of business between MGM and Apple," he said. "I don't mind saying this out loud: We live in a world where I'm trying to put in visual effects and sequences that look fabulous on widescreen HD images, and I did not want to launch a series that would appear on a three-inch wide screen. Yes, it's a perfectly valid medium for a lot of television. Not for me. And certainly not for a show like Stargate." WHAT IS NEXT? While the script for the show has yet to be written, Stargate Universe is definitely moving forward. The pitch to SCI FI Channel could result in a green light, or at least a script request. Should the cable network pass on the show, MGM could certainly pursue other outlets. The script may, in turn, lead to a partial or full-season pick-up. As sets are built and the production wheels begin to turn, we expect to see breakdowns for each of the show's main characters. Stargate's principal photography at The Bridge Studios in Vancouver, British Columbia typically runs from March to October. It is still early enough that, should SCI FI jump at the chance to green light the show, it is not too late to begin filming in March for a premiere sometime in 2008. That would create an enormous time crunch, however, similar to the rush to get Atlantis going in late 2003. If Stargate Universe misses that window, expect either an order of less than 20 episodes or a 2009 premiere. There you have it. The working premise for Stargate Universe has been revealed, and we wish Brad Wright and Robert Cooper all the best in selling the new show and entering the next phase. With the mother series Stargate SG-1 over, it is a critical time for determining how far the Stargate franchise will reach beyond it. Keep in mind that this concept is in an early stage of development, and some change is inevitable -- especially once a network is on board. GateWorld looks forward to keeping you up-to-date on the development of the new series, and to exploring brand new galaxies in Stargate Universe Seems OK...but not the best. It's only a premise though and one that could change completely. This article was meant to be on gateworld.net but was leaked them asked to be removed by the writers. Oh and the first SG-1 DVD movie, "Ark of Truth" was leaked a couple of months ago. It's...OK. New episode of Atlantis was good this week though...Teal'c was in it!
The Bard Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 Man, I loved SG-1 so much, started watching it again, musta spent more than 300quid collecting the DVD boxsets, lol. Might start watching Atlantis, although it didn't seem anywhere near as good on first impression. I haven't seen either of the films though, so looking forward to them coming out . Jaffa! Kree!
Strider Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 Man, I loved SG-1 so much, started watching it again, musta spent more than 300quid collecting the DVD boxsets, lol. Might start watching Atlantis, although it didn't seem anywhere near as good on first impression. I haven't seen either of the films though, so looking forward to them coming out . Jaffa! Kree! I'd advise you to start watching Atlantis, i saw afew on sky and didn't think i'd like it, but i did. I sort of prefer it to SG1 in some ways. Watched all the Atlantis episodes here good quality too. Funny this thread popped up now, i'm just this second watching 'The Ark Of Truth'.
somme Posted February 17, 2008 Author Posted February 17, 2008 I just got used to carter being in charge and now she's leaving and Woolsy, (Doctor from Voyager) is coming in. I miss Weir.
The Bard Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 I'd advise you to start watching Atlantis, i saw afew on sky and didn't think i'd like it, but i did. I sort of prefer it to SG1 in some ways. Watched all the Atlantis episodes here good quality too.Funny this thread popped up now, i'm just this second watching 'The Ark Of Truth'. Phail. Yeah, I'll check it out, it is Stargate after all .
Hellfire Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 Interesting that you bumped this thread, cause Im gonna watch Stargate: The Ark of Trugh now :P
Happenstance Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 Im still planning on waiting for the Ark Of Truth dvd as the leaked version was apparently missing some CGI that'll be in the final version. I do enjoy Atlantis and watch it every week but I dont think its as good as SG1 and probably never will be. Doesnt really have the same feeling between the team for me.
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