Ashley Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 He doesn't act ever. Well he was in CSI and SNL... No wait you were right. He doesn't act. Personally I don't care either. I don't 'get' it and I don't know why he's so popular Twitter has a separate server for him but ah well, popular culture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 He did two cameos, but he's not an actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 He did two cameos, but he's not an actor. Cameo is when someone is themselves, an example would be Steve Martin in that same episode of SNL (he played himself and appeared briefly at the start), an acting job is one that requires the person to pretend to be someone they are not which he did in both the SNL sketches he was in (and at the end appeared as himself and gave Tina Fey flowers and a hug which was a bit creepy) and in CSI. Unless you're suggesting he is a terrorist? As you said, in spite of what his manager is trying to push nobody sees him as an actor. Thankfully, as he's not that good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Sorry, my definition of cameo was wrong, but you know what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raining_again Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 For ages I had heard the name "Justin Beiber" but I had no idea who he was. I had also heard some really annoying songs from a 12-year-old girl. It wasn't until months later that I realised that that 12-year-old girl was actually that utterly random name that was terrorizing Twitter. haha i thought the same! Although I can't say I hate...or even really dislike him... Anyone who does really needs to get a life. (no offence...but really spend your time thinking or doing stuff you actually enjoy.. no?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 I also didn't know who the voice was, thought either a young girl or young boy. Took a while to find out it was him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paj! Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 People hardly buy his music because they don't like it. To them he has a good voice, even if you don't agree. You didn't say that previously, you said he's clearly good because he sells records. Which is not a tru fact. I was just pointing out that record sales do not equal quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 You could also interpret it as me saying that the large amount of sales records means that a lot of people agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Meh, the internet needs someone to hate. When it's not Justin Bieber, it's someone else. I'm not particularly bothered either way. When people express hatred towards him, though, (I've even read people congratulating the guy who threw a bottle at him) it annoys me. Those people are just too far out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paj! Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 You could also interpret it as me saying that the large amount of sales records means that a lot of people agree with me. Not at all. You wrote something completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 A good voice is subjective, I could have put "in their opinion" afterwards, but since "good" is not a quantitative but a qualitative adjective I did not think it was necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paj! Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 You just worded it badly, so it meant something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Clearly with the amount he sold, he does have a good voice [in the opinion of the people who buy it], and people find him good looking. Happy now? Utterly pointless since "good" is an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroicjanitor Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 None of you know who Bieber really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paj! Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Happy now? Utterly pointless since "good" is an opinion. Why not just say "so clearly people enjoy his voice"? :p Solves everything, and just is...the right..thing to say. I know "good" is subjective, that's why I took issue with it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairdriver Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 The fact that he sells a lot of records just supports the already established fact that the majority of our society are uncultured and have no taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Why not just say "so clearly people enjoy his voice"? :p Solves everything, and just is...the right..thing to say. I know "good" is subjective, that's why I took issue with it in the first place. They clearly enjoy his voice and therefore think he is good. Me being one of those people I can say in one of my posts that his voice is good. :p The fact that he sells a lot of records just supports the already established fact that the majority of our society are uncultured and have no taste. No taste for the things you consider good. I could say liking comics is for nerds who have no taste. But I don't make generalisations like that because I'm not stuck up about my views. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paj! Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairdriver Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) No taste for the things you consider good. I could say liking comics is for nerds who have no taste. But I don't make generalisations like that because I'm not stuck up about my views. :p You can't compare a whole medium to one shitty singer. There are some shit comics. In the same way there are shit singers. Edited October 3, 2010 by chairdriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Hey I only chose comics because I know you like them. I could have chosen one singer you like and called him shitty too, and said that everyone who likes him is uncultured and has no taste. But once again, that's just making generalisations. Give me some objective proof that Justin Bieber is a shitty singer who contributes to the fact that the majority have no taste. Maybe you as the minority have no taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairdriver Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 If you seriously believe the quality of all music is completely subjective, I really can't begin to reason with you. I mean, it is not possible to argue Crazy Frog is better than Mozart, and still be telling truths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I dunno, meet a die-hard postmodernist and I'm sure they'd be willing to argue that until the cows come home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 If you seriously believe the quality of all music is completely subjective, I really can't begin to reason with you. I mean, it is not possible to argue Crazy Frog is better than Mozart, and still be telling truths. Better in what sense? Better to entertain a night club? I think not. Better at a dinner party? Most likely. Better because it took longer to make? I don't know how long each took. Better because it is culturally accepted as good music? I guess we just have viewpoints that are too different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I always think of Nina when I see that picture... Sorry, that was totally off topic :p How do I tie this in? How about Nina Simone has better music than the Bieber, in my opinion. There we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 This is actually a really interesting debate. What makes good music? What decides that one piece of music is better than another? Is it down to technical thing? Is it solely a matter of taste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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