The fish Posted December 17, 2008 Author Posted December 17, 2008 Oh, that's just great. The CPU, the case fan, the graphics car (9800GTX+), the HDD and the DVD drive all just go shipped, despite my 3 emails asking them to cancel the order. Looks like I'm stuck with them now. EDIT: Ok, because of this, I've been streamlined into having a budget of about £170 for case, PSU, RAM, and Mobo. So far, thinking of getting this: PSU: OCZ Stealth Xtream 500W PSU Case: Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Mid Tower Case RAM: OCZ 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Which leaves me with £70-£80 for a Mobo. Ideas, anyone? Oh, and will that case be big enough for the Graphics card? EDIT: Ooh, according the a forum thread about which Mobo's work out of the box with an E8400 (seems to be a common problem), and the ASRock Penryn 1600SLI-110dB I was looking at does!
Ten10 Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 The GTX is 11.125cm by 26.7cm (W L) your case dimensions are 20.3 cm x 48.6 cm x 41.3 cm (W D H) So judging by this one would say yes, but I don't know if it would hit your hdd bay. But checking the reviews people seem to have enough room
The fish Posted December 17, 2008 Author Posted December 17, 2008 The GTX is 11.125cm by 26.7cm (W L) your case dimensions are 20.3 cm x 48.6 cm x 41.3 cm (W D H) So judging by this one would say yes, but I don't know if it would hit your hdd bay. But checking the reviews people seem to have enough room Judging by piccys of the case, there are several HDD slots. Reviews suggest if fits easily. What do you guys think of this Mobo? According to a list of E8400 OOTB-compatible ones, it'll work. Is there anything I'm missing here? The only thing I can't see is specific SATA II compatibility, or is that going to be lurking under an alternative name?
Nolan Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 General Storage Controller ATA-133, Serial ATA-300 In the extended specifications. I skimmed through and didn't see it and did a crtl+F search for SATA and got nothing. Otherwise looks like a good board. And hey, you never know maybe you'll get lucky and your refund will come through despite the parts shipping
The fish Posted December 17, 2008 Author Posted December 17, 2008 In the extended specifications. I skimmed through and didn't see it and did a crtl+F search for SATA and got nothing. Otherwise looks like a good board. And hey, you never know maybe you'll get lucky and your refund will come through despite the parts shipping So, will it work with SATAII?
Nolan Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#SATA_3Gb.2Fs SATA II is a misnomer apparently. It's the same as SATA 3Gb/s. Idk why I read Serial ATA, and didn't make the connection that it was SATA::shrug:
Ten10 Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Anyway in regards to the mobo its a great one in my opinion. The DS3L version doesn't support raid but no big deal if you won't use it
McPhee Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Ok, because of this, I've been streamlined into having a budget of about £170 for case, PSU, RAM, and Mobo. I've always found the best way to build a spec is to start by choosing the Case and PSU, then deduct the amount for the HDD, DVD and RAM (as these 3 are pretty fixed amounts). Look at what's left, find an appropriate motherboard for that amount and then split the rest 60/40 in favour of the graphics card. The case and PSU are the bits that will still be with you in five years time, the rest will likely get upgraded. What do you guys think of this Mobo? It's great, in fact it's the one i suggested earlier :p What conclusion have you come to on the graphics/cpu front?
The fish Posted January 5, 2009 Author Posted January 5, 2009 They shipped the 9800GTX+ I think he said. Aye, and the E8400. Ok, I've ordered everything. EDIT: Buggery-bugger. My Mobo is PCI-E , and yet every decent graphics card (with a few pricey exceptions) is PCI-E2.0. Anyone got any ideas?
Nolan Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 PCI-E and PCI-E by 2.0 is essentially the same thing, you'll be fine.
DCK Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 PCI-E 2.0 is faster, but the difference will be very minimal (e.g. 1/2 fps if even) because your graphics card won't need the increased bandwidth.
The fish Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 PCI-E and PCI-E by 2.0 is essentially the same thing, you'll be fine. That's contrary to what Wikipedia said. However, the guy I spoke to on the phone said the same as you, so I've ordered it. It, by the way, is the Radeon 4850 - I took DCK's/McPhee's/others' advice. It's nice that I'll finally get this all together; it should arrive tomorrow morning.
Nolan Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 That's contrary to what Wikipedia said. However, the guy I spoke to on the phone said the same as you, so I've ordered it. It, by the way, is the Radeon 4850 - I took DCK's/McPhee's/others' advice. It's nice that I'll finally get this all together; it should arrive tomorrow morning. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, plus there are a few different PCI ports. PCI- long single port generally used for soundcards video tuners occasionally modems. PCI-e(xpress) short, about 3cm (including the casing around the port) used for a variety of things similar to PCI but faster. PCI-E(xpress) x16 A long port like PCI, but a bit longer and usually the interface isn't one long piece. PCI-E(xpress) x16 2.0 An update on the PCI-Ex16 interface, fully backwards compatible. A bit faster more effecient is the easy way to say it. both x16 ports are commonly just Video Cards. If I really wanted to confuse you I could start talking about AGP(so glad we moved aay from those), or the (usually horrible) PCI PCI-E GPUs that are made occasionally. Also, I think almost everyone here suggested the 4850>9800GTX+.
The fish Posted January 6, 2009 Author Posted January 6, 2009 If I really wanted to confuse you I could start talking about AGP(so glad we moved aay from those), or the (usually horrible) PCI PCI-E GPUs that are made occasionally. Also, I think almost everyone here suggested the 4850>9800GTX+. I know all about AGP's, my dad's computer has said slot. I knew all that stuff about PCI-E, I'd just never even heard of PCI-E 2.0 before, and got freaked, thinking it was, like PCI/PCI-e/PCI-E, totally incompatible. Looks like it's similar to the whole USB1.1/USB2.0 thing... Thanks for all your help in this lengthy, needlessly stressful campaign of mine.
Nolan Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 AGP comes in like more varients than PCI though, mostly dependant on Voltage. depending on whatever those may be 2x 4x or 8x. -_- I do like to help though, otherwise.....I wouldn't.
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