Happenstance Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Sorry, our bond will just have to stay broken :p Its basically like ive mentioned before, I just love superheroes and its very rare that i'll read a comic that isnt about them. Probably just Walking Dead actually.
ReZourceman Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Sorry, our bond will just have to stay broken :p Its basically like ive mentioned before, I just love superheroes and its very rare that i'll read a comic that isnt about them. Probably just Walking Dead actually. Ah, then I implore you to read the second and third issues then. Theres not actually super heroes, I just think you should read it.
Happenstance Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Ah, then I implore you to read the second and third issues then. Theres not actually super heroes, I just think you should read it. Fine, but then you have to admit that you love ALL of Jeph Loebs current work and that you want him to write sequels to Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum!
ReZourceman Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I would but I'm physically unable to. My brain and body will literally not allow me to do so.
Happenstance Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Have you read Spider-Man: Blue by Loeb before?
ReZourceman Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I've got one issue.....but havn't read it/it at all.
Paj! Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I have! It didn't jump out as great but Tim Sale's art does.
Happenstance Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Its really good, one of my favourite Spider-Man trades that I own
Paj! Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I love: Ms. Moonstonemarvel: Agh! I don't need this shit! Morgana Le Fey: You stand in defence of Victor Von Doom, whore?! Ms. M: "Whore"? Nice. Lady, you are crazy! And I have an M.D in psychiatry, so when I say you're crazy...you're crazy. *Morgana swings pink energy sword of death, but...* Ms. M: Yeah...Intangibility. How about you? *BAM! Morgan is blasted off her steed*
Dante Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Blackest Night: Superman 1 Preview Awesome cover.
Happenstance Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 5 Creepiest Sex Scenes in Comics Suprised Sins Past wasnt in there
gmac Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 anyone else picked up The Marvels Project? some more fine work from Brubaker and Epting imo
Paj! Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) So I caught up with the Sisterhood of Mutants arc of Uncanny X-men (since I started it, then skipped straight to the current Dark X-men arc). I like Fraction's writing, and normally, I'd be all over a story about super sexy teams of randomly put together femizon mutant bitches. But it was ruined by Land's art. Ignoring the fact he's a copier/tracer/whatever, it just doesn't work as illustration for a story. The art often leaves me confused as to what's going on, or it's just..weird. The thing is, I really like his men. His guys look a bit like Cassady's Astonishing X-Men stuff (almost, but obviously not as good). But his women are ALL copied from what appears to be adverts for shampoo or something. They look sort of the same, with really strange and unnatural hair going all over the place. Madelyne Pryor made no sense to me. She looked like someone else. She always looked like she'd just asked someone if they wanted a quick fuck. Might've been that weird, old woman fur ruffle thing she had on, but still. His Emma Frost in close-up panels always looks like she just finished sucking someone off too. This of course, isn't helped by the fact it's been found he traces from porn for his action shots. Now every strained face in a battle seems to turn into some old man fucking a young woman up the ass. His art is dynamic sometimes. But I wonder how much of that is the colourist. I compare it to Chris Bachelo, who I love. I also caught up with a storyline I never finished, way back in X-Men 197-199, "Red Data". His art is beautiful and frenetic and very unconventional. Sometimes it is hard to tell what is going on, but going through the art is rewarding, and the messiness of each scene gives the story more action and excitement. EDIT: Brian Cronin of Comic Book Resources remarked that Land's art in Uncanny X-Men #510 is "possibly has the most harmful art to a story that I’ve seen in a comic," saying that the Land's limited supply of poses and use of the same models for multiple characters "results in terrible art and particularly terrible storytelling."[1] That's the issue I was talking about the storytelling being awful (art-wise), as well. Edited August 17, 2009 by Paj!
Dan_Dare Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Yeah, Land blows pretty hard. It's really worth reading though for Fraction's writing. For like...the polar opposite of The Land Effect you should totally read Invincible Iron Man. Salvador Larocca is on pencils and, by Jehovah, he's incredible. Even his X-Treme X-Men run pales in comparison. (for all it's considerable faults, there's no doubt it was a gorgeous run)
Paj! Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Salvador Larroca is definitely up there with the very best Marvel has to offer. Looking back, Larroca's art was the only compelling thing about X-Treme X-men. So when Igor fucking Kordey took over, I wanted to burn every story I read.
Dan_Dare Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 haha yes. He also presided over the only compelling bit of the book when it kicked off and actually had a really good premise.
Paj! Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 I don't remember what happened. Let me think; - Vargas + Psylocke being killed + Beast being accelerated. - Storm and Thunderbird have a holiday in sydney (...). Plan on having rampant sex with Lifeguard and Slipstream. They join the team instead. Some very confusing story follows, basically Sage and Lifeguard beat Lady Mastermind, yay. - Space rape lords build a neverending tower in madripoor + Storm is forced to be queen + Rogue and Gambit stabbed by Vargas - Rogue, dressed as Psylocke does or doesn't *dun dun* kill Vargas - Somehing else in Madripoor. Probably. - Oh that issue where they're all having dinner at Rogue's mansion she'd never mentioned before. Shadowcat gets pissy because someone made a joke about her dead dad or something. - Elias Bogan and the case of fucked up story. Some boy kills all his family and friends in alaska, Emma doesnt want him handed over to the authorities. Storm and Emma fight, then team up. Ohnoes Bogan has Emma under control. X-Men win. - SOME UTTER SHIT THAT COINCIDE WITH X2. Shadowcat basically has another shit adventure. - Some more shit with shit art. - Oh lord. Storm: The Arena. Kill me now. Worst idea for a story ever? I hated. - Then Bogan returns. And I stop reading. Nice to look back.
Dan_Dare Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 ah but at the start (Vargas attacks!) they were after Destiny's diaries trying to discover some prophecy stuff about the fate of the world etc. and because the diaries mentioned Xavier and several other X-Men, they had to go underground, effectively on the run from their own people if need be. precognition is always good. That's a compelling story right there. Good job they totally fucking dropped it and replaced it with a motherfucking alien invasion. And yes. The Arena. Somebody should have been executed for that.
Paj! Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Exactly, I liked the premise at the start! I got it. But then...Psylocke dies and it's like "QUICK WE MUST - OH SHIT ALIENS". Oh fuck, forgot that awful story with the bitter lesbo with one eye who hates Rogue and took her to court or something. And Mystique was there. SOME SHIT ASS story.
Dan_Dare Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 God I can't even remember that. Shocking. You know, since then it's taken Fraction to get me back in to X-Men. That's damage done!
ReZourceman Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 I find Lands work on Uncanny near-impossible to follow. It obliterates the amazing writing. Ahem.
Paj! Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Is that you? You aren't doing the art for Cast. Oh wait. That's Aquafire. Kinda makes Cast sound more official than it actually is. But good on getting it in a magazine!
ReZourceman Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Kinda makes Cast sound more official than it actually is. Fuck yeah it does. :awesome:
gmac Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 sigh Land is back on Uncanny for the Nation X arc however the Captain Britain team (Cornell and Kirk) are doing a Dark X-men mini that might be worth a look
Paj! Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Is that not Dark X-Men: The Beginning? Or is it going to be after that? I need to get Dark X-Men:TB 2, read the first one, and most of Dark Avengers, on Dan's recommendation, it's great. Need to get issues 5 and 6.
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