Paj! Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Leifeld was better in the early 90's doing X-Force. Digital colouring highlights the shitness, sadly. It worked/was tolerable in his early X-Force as it wasn't sort of...exposed for what it was.
Dan_Dare Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 I just tried to find a Liefeld picture of someone smoking a cigarette. I thought I found one or two, but I was stopped by a few obstacles; 1) I couldn't identify if the objects I thought may have been cigarettes...were actually cigarettes or not. 2) I couldn't find the SOURCE of the smoke in....well...any of them. Hahahahaaha ___ After catching up on Uncanny yesterday, I'm doing X-Men today. It's actually really quite good - feels a bit fresher than Uncanny and despite the obvious 'me too!' element to it, the vampire story was really well handled. Some great action, some cool story, nice little twists and a quality finale. Can't say fairer than that. Art is boss, too. It's sometimes a little too smooth for me, but the action is top class stuff. Really clear, solid framing and really good motion.
Happenstance Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 I think I read the first issue of X-Men but im pretty sick of vampires at this point so I skipped the rest of that arc. I am enjoying the Evolutionaries one though, just finished reading the latest issue.
Dan_Dare Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 It's worth checking out. Marvel vamps aren't really like traditional types popularised of late so you might get in to it.
Happenstance Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Was listening to the comic geek speak podcast yesterday and they brought up a good point about the new DC Universe Presents book that will be coming out in the relaunch. Its supposed to be a book to showcase the lesser known or used characters in the DCU which I think is a really good idea, its one of the reasons I enjoyed the 52 story so much. Anyway, the first story is going to be 5 issues long and if it stays like that then we'll get to see maybe 3 different characters a year. This is one of those books which would be perfect to go back to one issue story telling, 2 at the max so we could actually get to see other characters. Having long arcs in a book like this is a mistake id say.
ReZourceman Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Agreed. 5 issue arcs in comics are MASSIVELY over used anyway. Look at the Viltrumite War. It was 8 issues long, the last was an epilogue and you could argue that issue 1 was a prologue. For the biggest storyline that the entire series has built upto. Yet, crappy reboot/one off/boring/not important stories like on Avengers and New Avengers are common place to be 6 issues. Myeah. ------------ You guys seriously need to catch up with Haunt. This storyline has been awesome and this issue was wicked. Especially the last page. It wasn't a reveal or anything, it was just "LOL next issue will be bad ass". And it contained one of my favourite pieces of dialogue in recent times. Those assholes can suck on my comically large penis.
Happenstance Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Catching up makes it sound like we're just behind on our reading of Haunt, instead of trying it and not liking it :p
ReZourceman Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Yeah but IMHO you guys didn't give it a good enough chance. Like with Dynamo 5. You just decide before things get interesting that its not for you. Invincible is "just another super hero book" up until issue 7.
Happenstance Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Yes but Invincible had enough in the first issue that kept me interested in it, the other two didnt. Dynamo 5 seemed ok but something I just wasnt interested in. Haunt I didnt like at all.
ReZourceman Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Hmmmm. Just read Avengers. Definitely good...and better than last issue but it raises a few questions/it has mild half-mistakes probably/myearh. I won't discuss in depth cos' I can't be bothered but; A) It might have been cooler if the Avengers tower fell in the main Fear Itself book. or B) If it was just drawn better in this. Should have been a big cool double spread. Or couple of double spreads. Wasn't quite as clear cut the way it was laid out and it could have been more epic. C). Yeah. etc
Happenstance Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 I think it fell in this issue because Fear Itself isnt an Avengers specific event but a Cap/Thor one. I do agree though that it needed a bit more spectacle about it. I was kind of happy though, I never really liked that tower as their base.
DomJcg Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Didn't the tower fall before? i'm sure it did... and I liked the tower, better than that mansion anyway. I loved the issue, Romita was on top form and the battle was seriously immense. I know Rulks not dead but seeing Ben destroy/kill things was epic as it was heart breaking
ReZourceman Posted June 17, 2011 Posted June 17, 2011 Romita wasn't on top form. Thing looked like a black mess (probably partly colourists fault too though to be honest). I mean...come on, lets compare Immonen's interpretation to Romita's. Okay...can't find pics of either.
Dan_Dare Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 I really liked the art in Avengers. I think Romita really has a handle on the Red Hulk (Who I really like, despite it all) and having him smash around with Ben was awesome. It looks and feels like two super strong characters knocking the fuck out of one another. Which is a plus. Almost caught up with all things X now. Uncanny X-Force continues to be the best of the bunch, but it also feels weird. The stuff they do doesn't really justify their covert nature from the other X-Men. Planning to assassinate Apocalypse was a maybe, but they only found out he was still a child part way through- until then there's no reason Cyclops and the rest wouldn't have gone after him too. The other stuff I don't think really justifies their separate existence - particularly the Dethloks. It's just not like it used to be where they were out to straight up murder the shit out of evil bastards. Those were the days... It's fucking brilliant anyway. Who cares?
Paj! Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 And I prefer these characters to the ones from the last X-Force.
Dan_Dare Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 yeah. Except Deadpool. I know he's popular but...he's just not right. Deadpool books are satire - he's totally unsuitable for team books, especially ones like X-Force.
ReZourceman Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 I absolutely adore Deadpool in Uncanny X-Force. Remender's doing a fucking amazing job at humanifying the guy. Seriously....the one just after the Apocalypse arc. Where its revealed he hasn't been cashing his cheques after Wolverine ribs him and he storms off. Love. It. Paj, you up on Vince yet? ----- No negative opinions on Beyond the Trailer at least;
Paj! Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 (edited) If up on Vince means the one where Las Vegas is blown up then yes. Tonight I'm gonna catch-up with Adjectiveless X-Men and Astonishing (I forgot it existed). EDIT: HOLY FUCK Serve and Protect is pencilled by Bachalo? I love it. -- Ok well To Serve and Protect is probably one of my fave story arcs in ages! Just back-to-basics superhero-ing, without it feeling like a backwards step or somehow innapropriate. Great writing too, got the team sounding like a team in their interactions, Spidey was done very well, and loved how it felt like a sequel to last year's (?) Lizard story in ASM, with Bachalo back drawing the scaly beasts. Also - But yeah, VERY GOOD, after the meh-in-my-opinion Curse of the Mutants. Edited June 18, 2011 by Paj!
Happenstance Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 You know its things like this that are gonna make me really miss the current Batgirl book:
Dan_Dare Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 Paj! Do you read Legacy? Should I? I hear they're off to spaaaaaaaaace. I might catch up.
Dan_Dare Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 oh you're online, good. I need to catch up on Captain America too. When did the Zemo story start?
ReZourceman Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 Fuck knows, I switched over to trade for that shit. About a year ago at least I think, as I think that is when I stopped.
Dan_Dare Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 Ah you sunovabitch! I have no idea where to pick up :P
ReZourceman Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 To tide yourself over while you find out why don't you catch up on GL, Chew or start Dynamo 5. Make reading Dynamo 5 my christmas present from you. :p --------- And I gave up on my comic guy getting my missing Skullkickers, so just bought them from eBay (weren't even remotely hard to find)....o___0, so I now have the run (my 1 is a third printing so I need to try and find a cheapish first printing. All because my comic guy forgot to order it) ://. Anyway, may read tomorrow or this week sometime. Soon, definitely, just might be a touch of busy/bothered.
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