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@Cookyman for your ShopTo pre-order, just a heads-up, just need to go into 'Pre-Orders' on your account and you just need to confirm it. Think you have until 24/09 to do so? Seems like ShopTo has done a good job if that's the case, though they do say it doesn't guarantee stock on Day 1... Will be sticking with GAME myself I think just to be on the safe side

I mean, worth noting that this is a PR/marketing guy, and the very same one who said there'd be plenty of notice about pre-orders going live. That's a load of marketing fluff I've seen more complaints about that, and rightly so, in my opinion. "pre-orders will go live tomorrow" not being shown at the end of the Showcase, retailers having pre-orders going up only an hour after the Showcase, and people waking up to it being sold out. That and the lack of clarity on what would be there at launch during the Showcase was so weird to me. Biggest missteps for me of their marketing campaign. Like I've mentioned before, PlayStation's marketing of these games coming to PS4 (or rather, lack thereof?) is what makes this strike differently, at least to me, when compared with Xbox, even if it is essentially the same thing. They didn't mention it during the Showcase or before this for that very reason, so perhaps it is disingenuous to an extent, but let's not pretend that first party experiences already available on PS4 and Pro weren't already of the highest calibre, and with consistent hit after hit. This will just be the best way to play them. Remember, Sony has much more riding on PlayStation than Microsoft does Xbox, and those 112.1 million PS4's in the wild not getting support of some kind would be leaving money on the table. Guess we have reason to doubt being able to ride mechanical dinos in Horizon now though, as Guerrilla mentioned it wouldn't be possible on PS4, which is my biggest takeaway from this. I was hyped for that possibility!

Yeah it's a weird one. Think news outlets are probably running with it a bit far, just as they did with Xbox (which was a weird one too, but here 'eroding trust' seems a little OTT to me - if anything you've just got people holding back on picking up a PS5), but hey, they've got to make a living, and all the points it raises are true. Just feels like pouring fuel onto a conversation I think most are tired of by this point, but oh well Secured the Charging Stand from ShopTo, so I am good to go on the hardware side of things! Now just got to wait for the games to drop

GAME's online stock allocation is gone...

Digital Edition already sold out on Amazon! Holy smokes!

Heck yeah!

Looks like it's already having issues on the app not giving the option to add to basket, but seems to be working on desktop/desktop mode

@Eddage DE up at Amazon, go! Direct link. Looks like it's working on mobile atm too, but any issues might be worth checking it out on desktop!

Working atm But yeah, that's a solid return for them! between S2 of Mando and Squadrons, October has shaped up to be a really nice month for Star Wars fans. Can't wait!

Live at Curry's but the site is seriously struggling, if anyone wants to give that a shot. From what I can see Amazon UK is saying that they will restock. Argos opening pre-orders on Friday (tomorrow).

Also @Eddage ShopTo have updated their images for the consoles and are now showing the full price for both consoles next to the £0.01, but it is showing as 'Pre-Order' and not 'Register Interest' despite this. This was in the last 15 minutes or so from what I can tell, so might be worth keeping an eye on it, or seeing if you can already secure it! Link for Digital Edition. EDIT: Welp. Looks like they might be back down. EDIT 2: Looks like they've changed the wording back to it registering interest. But worth keeping an eye on!

I have no idea how it should be spelt to be honest, I'll just accept whatever they put in front of us Mostly just got caught up in everything else to be honest, so not quite for the same reason I missed out Bugsnax in June

Yeah, the messaging has certainly been a bit shaky from ShopTo. I don't even think their pre-orders are live yet (can't see anything on their Twitter and I was also one of those to register), so I imagine it's just a case of people waking up to the pre-orders going live at a few places last night. Think I'll be sticking with my GAME pre-order for the hardware (minus that charging stand which I'll need to get elsewhere), after checking what they're offering for delivery vs ShopTo (who I had been planning to go with) I don't think there's going to be a much safer guarantee than the Royal Mail 24h Tracked GAME are offering for free. Still waiting for software to go up at places other than GAME, though I noticed Miles Morales was listed as £51.99 at GAME. Not sure if that's the final listing, as it's $49.99/€49.99 overseas, but if it is £51.99, well that seems a little bit steeper than I was anticipating. That won't stop me from trying to get a copy, mind And like you said though, still plenty coming to PS4, and some of these games are too! I'm finding myself on the fence about picking up CP2077 at launch now, just knowing that there's going to be that next gen upgrade down the line and also because I plan on getting Miles Morales and Demon's Souls on the same day means it'll be a while before I get to one of those games (and Age of Calamity is the day after!). Much pondering shall be done today I think

Ah, pop this right next to The sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Yeah so I think we'll stick with Ragnarok until stated otherwise

PlayStation blog has been updated and confirms that Naoki Yoshida will be serving as producer, while Hiroshi Takao will be the game's director. More information will be coming in 2021. With more information coming in 2021, I think this is a sign development is going well, as has typically been the case under Yoshi-P, so wouldn't be surprised at all if it's released by the end of the next financial year (March 2022). And if they do run into development trouble, I think we can expect timely updates - they've been very transparent about how it took them roughly five months to transition to and optimise working from home because of COVID-19, and once they had finally returned to their typical workflow, announced the delay of everything in the XIV schedule by five months. Would be great if they continue that level of transparency with this project too, though I do hope they don't run into any trouble in the first place!

Mando S1 having a great time at the Emmy's it seems. I'm sure there'll be more wins by the time I wake up

Yeah, I think it should be fine? We'll see I guess I registered a while back with them, imagine it should be the case we get an email tomorrow at some point and then can just confirm the payment method. Ideally. Got one secured with GAME at least as a backup, but yeah, would much rather go with ShopTo. Had a really good experience with them on both the customer service and delivery front for games, so I'll see. Will be trying to get that charging stand I couldn't get from GAME from there at least! probably the games too

Do you have a link by any chance Cookyman? All I'm finding are the 'Register Your Interest' spots

Damn, these are some nice looking retail boxes!

Looks like it's out of stock at Smyths EDIT: and GAME. Damn.

Yeah, so this is probably the biggest reason why they should have clarified it during the Showcase I'm sure it'll all be cleared up in the next few hours, going to be a weird time for now though!

Only place online pre-orders seem to be live at in the UK is GAME right now. Have pre-ordered the console, extra DualSense, PULSE 3D headset, and media remote (would have been the charging stand too, but sold out) from them, though would prefer to order from ShopTo with DPD 24, so will keep an eye out at least and cancel with GAME if so. Release is on a Thursday and I'll be working that day anyway (might need to book the Friday off!), so as long as it gets there before I finished I'd be happy, so I'll probably keep it! Will likely wait on the software and charging stand to go up elsewhere. Has anyone had any recent experience with GAME's online pre-orders? It seems fine from what I've looked up, but would appreciate hearing any experiences others have had

Alright yeah so that's some weird messaging, will have to update the title in a bit! If that's the case feel like they should've made that clear like they did with VII Remake, if I recall that was "Coming first to PlayStation 4". But then again, I guess Square Enix signed off on it, so Also that really does look great, haven't played any of those games it's mentioned that Suzuki worked on, but anecdotally I've only seen and heard good things from them, and it looks brilliant here, so I have high hopes!

Yes, this was the big thing which stood out as missing for me! Felt letdown we didn't see it in all honesty, I'm looking forward to seeing the changes they have in store for us. I'm hoping we still end up with that hardware teardown Cerny mentioned way back in March (have my doubts seeing as it's been so long, but we'll see!), so it'd be nice if this was part of that if they do still have plans for it!

I'm not really going to get into it too much, because I spilled a lot out on the last page, but like I said before, I'm just happy more people get to play what will be good games. Like I said, I think the messaging is very important - that my gut instinct was different here than it was when we first heard about Xbox saying a similar thing for Halo Infinite and then their other games is a big sign of the messaging being better. But yeah, not much else I can say. I know you weren't too hot on this going in anyways @Dcubed, but I'm happy with it and that's all I can really attest to. We don't need to see eye-to-eye, because I can understand a bit of where you're coming from, and objectively I agree. It's just that messaging for me, it's okay if you disagree. I think you're coming down a bit harsher on PlayStation than anyone here ever was on Xbox, but that could just be me misreading things. I think it was more under the "is this messaging working?" line of thinking more than anything else, but I could be wrong about that - that's where I feel I had been coming at it from, at least, but maybe I wasn't that clear myself. I'll leave it there. As @drahkon kind of hinted at, I don't think any of us want to get involved in a heated debate over this.