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A lot of what I see at Portsmouth is very familiar in terms of what we went through last season. Couldn't give a foul without showing a red.
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Three goals in 4 minutes for Newcastle against Ipswich. Shearer gets to rub it in at half time as well "Pretty embarrassing if you're an Ipswich player... Or an Ipswich manager"
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But Man United are usually winning by the end of 90 minutes, so in most cases lower stoppage time is actually an advantage for them - hence Fergie tapping his watch and glowering at the fourth official all the time. People aren't saying Man U always get lots of stoppage time, they're saying that the stoppage time is usually short in Man U games except on the rare occasions when they're drawing or losing and chasing the game at the end. A table showing that Man U matches, on average, have some of the lowest added on time isn't really going to stop people raising eyebrows every time they're on the verge of dropping points and pull out a winner in the 98th minute, is it? Quite the opposite.
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Well done on twatting the smoggies 5-0 btw DuD, rounded off a nice day for me. We're getting Marlon Harewood on loan from Villa apparently, although we've been "about" to seal the deal forever seemingly. Reckon he could do a decent job for us in the championship, plus we need strikers with Shola out injured.
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So if you celebrate for 45 seconds 0 time gets added on, if you celebrate for another 15 seconds a whole minute gets added on? It's not that I don't understand the maths, it's just that I watch football every week and I don't see those kind of additions, for those kinds of events, in other games. The referee can justify it however he wants, but if games involving other teams aren't having the same formulas applied people are going to feel agrieved.
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You've already said all this. You simply cannot say that there were nearly as many stoppages in those last 4 minutes as in the entire 45 minutes beforehand. It's absurd. Yes, there was a very unusal event occuring - things like managers getting sent to the stands, pitch invasions, serious injuries, these are things that result in time being added on, not the usual flow of the game, ie goal kicks and returning the ball the the centre after a goal. But no-one 'deliberately wasted time" in this case, a minute from a team scoring to the time of the kick off is in no way unusual, it's pretty much standard and normally incorporated into the normal time of the game (unless 've missed particularly high scoring games ending up with a full 10 minutes of added time). Even if there are no goals, subs or long injuries in a second half there are ALWAYS at least two minutes added on, so all those goals and subs in normal time only added up to two minutes? Really? I'm not saying there should have been more than four minutes "official" stoppage time, I'm saying there's an undeniable descrepancy between how much was added on for your common or garden expected hold ups during normal time and how much was added on for the same hold-ups in added time, ie after the 90 minute mark when Bellamy's goal went in. And let me ask you this - if bringing on subs lengthens the amount of stoppage time by such a high percentage, why do managers, including Fergie, bring on subs late in the game to run down the clock when they're holding onto a lead? I'm willing to bet that it's really not going to take long to see either a) A goal scored by Man United in stoppage time with a minute long celebration that doesn't result in a whole extra minute of stoppage time. or b) Fergie complaining that the whistle hasn't gone wexactly when the announced time finishes, no matter what subs, goals or injuries have happened during that period.
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It's as simple as this - if all of the stoppages, all the goals, celebrations, corners, yellow cards, injuries, talking-tos by the referee, the ball going into the crowd, substitutions and free kicks of the whole 45 minutes of the second half add up to only four minutes then how on earth can there be enough stoppages in those four minutes alone to add another three minutes? So you can give me another example of a top four club being afforded an inordinate amount of time to equalise? How many minutes were actually put up on the board? There's many ways in which the systems are set up to maintain the status quo as concerns the top clubs which have a large foreign following - the premier league gets four champions league spots, and those teams get a huge amount of prize money even if they have a poor run, they get seeded so they only face poor teams, they get byes in other competitions... It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that this goes down to officiating level as well. The same thing that stops someone taking two minutes for a goal kick. If the referee thinks you're taking too long to get the game started again he tells you to get going, if you fail to do that then you get booked. That doesn't mean 20 seconds gets added on for every goal kick, 30 if takes a bit longer because the ball went into the crowd etc. It was a good game, but as a neutral it seems a bit of a tainted victory seeing as the whole country are collectively eye-rolling at the manner of the winner.
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Actually, hang on - your calculations are bollocks are well. The times you quote include the time Owen was celebrating. 90:00+5:28 GOAL - Michael Owen 90:00+6:58 The final whistle is blown by the referee. If Owen scored at 95:30, spent about a minute celebrating, then there should have been yet another minute added on at the end. You know as well as I do that if Man U had taken the lead in the 90th minute, 4 minutes of stoppage time had been added, Man U were on the defensive and the ref didn't blow till 97 minutes that Ferguson would have spent the last 4 minutes of stoppage time screaming blue murder into the face of the fourth official in a manner that would get most managers a touchline ban. If the FA cave to pressure from the big four it just encourages them, you're right.
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Gerraway man, everyone knows the exact reason behind it - it was Man United. You can do all the calculations you want but no team outside the top four would have been afforded that much time to get a winner. Week in, week out teams score in the 90th minute and don't have their celebration time added to stoppage time.
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Where was the minute for Owen's celebration? There were four goals in the second half before injury time and I'd wager it was about a minute after each before the next kick off, so that means it should have been four minutes extra time just for goal celebrations, before you add subs, injuries etc. If that's really why there was so much added time then every game should have about 8 minutes added at the end of each half. If Man U had taken the lead in the 90th minute and city were pressing, after 4 minutes of stoppage time Fergie would have been going fucking apeshit tapping his watch in the fourth official's face.
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You don't add the exact time the celebrations took after a goal man, if you were that anal about it every time the match stopped then the matches would last about 3 hours, the ball's only usually in play about 55 minutes over the course of a 90 minute match.
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Fergie's magic watch earns Man U another 3 points
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Charles Darwin Film Too Controversial For America
BlueStar replied to Dante's topic in General Chit Chat
Met a girl the other day who didn't believe in dinosaurs. -
Made me giggle what world is Evra in?! He won't get a babysitting job at Man U, they've already got a Nani.
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Women's football might be OK if the goalkeepers weren't absolutely abysmal without exception.
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Got both t-shirts today, got the print in a tube separate a few days ago. With both packages they labelled them in such a way that they avoided any import charges.
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Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi to be freed from prison??
BlueStar replied to danny's topic in General Chit Chat
More info has recently come out about an innocent man put to death in (surprise, surprise) Texas. Long version http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grann?currentPage=1 Short version http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/opinion/01herbert.html?_r=1&em TL;DR version: Willingham, an unemployed twenty-three year old man in a small town in Texas, loses his home and his three infant daughters to a fire. Unscientific arson investigators decide Willingham burned down his house to kill his daughters so he can drink beer and play darts. Psychopathic psychiatrists say Willingham is a psycho without ever examining him. An ambitious prosecutor goes for the death sentence. Willingham's small-town lawyer is convinced of his client's guilt and never tries too hard. A mentally disturbed jailhouse snitch testifies against Willingham, cementing the case. Willingham is sentenced to death. All this happens in the early 90s. In 2004, a few weeks before the execution, a leading expert on explosives examines the case's evidence and opines that the evidence is all bull. The people who handle clemency never read the expert's report on the Willingham case (or read and disregard it). On February 17, 2004, Willingham recieves a lethal injection and dies. -
I think everyone should get their avatars tattooed on themselves for easy identification. Only had this done yesterday so it needs some healing and maybe a touch-up.
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No chance in hell of that punishment standing, not against such a high profile team with a rich russian oil baron able to lean on people.
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Person Starts To Play Video Game At What Age?
BlueStar replied to GoodManGamer's topic in General Chit Chat
Think I got my Commodore 64 when I was about 4 years old. Seen a video of me playing it and holding the joystick backwards, which apparently I found easier -
We're currently losing 2-1 to Huddersfield, dunno if some of our first team aren't even on the bench because we don't care about the cup and don't want to risk them, because they're next out the door or because Hughton wants to make a point about how paper thin our squad will be if they go.
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We've got that dodgy Uncle Fester character who failed to take over Sheff Wed involved in our takeover now, reckoning he's got loaded American backers behind him.
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Caster Semenya has a vajayjay but should it be a peepee?
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Anagram of Caster Semenya - "Yes, a secret man." -
Well my order was about $50. I'm hoping they'll do the good old DealExtreme trick of marking it as a gift but American firms don't seem as willing to do that as our shady far-eastern cousins. I'll let you know if I get stung by customs and by how much.
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