Sheikah Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 Sooooo.....did E3 convince you to buy another console? lol - I have to give it to you, I loved this post. To be fair I already own them all, but in terms of games I'm more interested in those coming out for PS3. Particularly FFXIV.
McPhee Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 (edited) Yup, i'm passing the blame. Never seen that thread in my life before. I guess i could argue though that you weren't just discussing illegal stuff but were in fact encouraging people to buy a PSP and engage in illegal activity with it instead of buying a Go. Suddenly the moderation across forums is more consistant and in fact you're lucky to be getting away without an infraction. Also, that thread is from AGES ago, moderation standards change over time. We've even had a rules re-write since then so the point is pretty moot. No, I don't understand the immorality of not paying the developer a second time for a game I already own, and I'd imagine if I posed that question to others, neither would they. Is anyone making you pay twice though? You can still play the game on the PS1. The only reason you'd be paying twice is if you want to play the game on the move, but was that the premise you were sold the game on in the first place? Paying twice and breaking the law to play the game on the PSP are two separate issues. If you don't want to pay for the game twice then you simply don't get to play it on the PSP. It's not difficult. For some reason you seem to believe that you're entitled to play the game however you see fit and use the contents of the game disk however you like. For what it's worth i'd agree that making you pay for the same title twice is crappy. However i don't agree that this fact entitles you to modify game and console to get to the same effect. Edited June 7, 2009 by McPhee
Sheikah Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 (edited) Is anyone making you pay twice though? You can still play the game on the PS1. The only reason you'd be paying twice is if you want to play the game on the move, but was that the premise you were sold the game on in the first place? True, you could play it on the PS1. But that's just more mess by my TV, and to be fair, I could just play it on my PS3. Meh, I have a portable device, and I'd like to play it on that. Just like how people have a portable MP3 player, and want to play their CD music on that, instead of the traditional CD player. Also, there's no way for me to play the PS1 games I actually want to play on PSP, because they're not even on the store! This is unlike music, where you can pretty much always purchase a track off iTunes instead of ripping from CD! Paying twice and breaking the law to play the game on the PSP are two separate issues. If you don't want to pay for the game twice then you simply don't get to play it on the PSP. It's not difficult. For some reason you seem to believe that you're entitled to play the game however you see fit and use the contents of the game disk however you like. Provided I am not selling, making a profit on, distributing or screening the game, I have no moral qualms with it. I've bought the game. People have bought a music CD. They want to rip said data and play it on a different device. When you can discredit this as any different to digital music then I will concede to your point. Edited June 7, 2009 by Sheikah
MATtheHAT Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 My Gamespot experiment:http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26909960&msg_id=312783963#312783963 Yeah i played it and thought 'meh'. Didn't understand how to do Ryu's hadouken it was so hard, was amazed at my skills when I managed to shoot a fireball though! it was incredible I don't know what I pressed. But overall it just was boring and ps3 is better than xbox really. Nice bit of Trolling there Matt. Will be keeping an eye on that one.
McPhee Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 My Gamespot experiment:http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26909960&msg_id=312783963#312783963 Post something like that in this cess pit and watch what happens :p http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/streetfighteriv/forum.html
Aimless Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 When you can discredit this as any different to digital music then I will concede to your point. You've had to crack your device, breaching the terms of use. There is no sanctioned method of doing what you have done, it is not an advertised feature. Honestly I don't think anyone cares that you're ripping PSOne games to use on your hacked PSP. However, when you're advocating this usage to other users and leaning on it as an argument as to why no one should buy this new device it's hardly surprising that you're ruffling some feathers. We could argue the morality of your actions indefinitely, but what you are doing is illegal whether you like it or not.
Sheikah Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 You've had to crack your device, breaching the terms of use. There is no sanctioned method of doing what you have done, it is not an advertised feature. With most music CDs the same applies: 1. It is not advertised on the case to rip the contents, and; 2. An additional program or tool for ripping is often required for many CDs (at least in my case). Given you're not acquiring any BIOS files, I really don't see Sony throwing a major fuss if people wish to play their own games. If you illegally downloaded games, I'm sure they'd care. Anyway, gonna shut up about this now. It's just going around in circles and getting a bit silly.
dwarf Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 With most music CDs the same applies: 1. It is not advertised on the case to rip the contents, and; 2. An additional program or tool for ripping is often required for many CDs (at least in my case). Given you're not acquiring any BIOS files, I really don't see Sony throwing a major fuss if people wish to play their own games. If you illegally downloaded games, I'm sure they'd care. Anyway, gonna shut up about this now. It's just going around in circles and getting a bit silly. Well it isn't often required anyway. iPods and Zens allow you to rip, and it is actually legal, key difference. But yeah, your last sentence was called by me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I think if Microsoft's exclusives were more 'must haves' then E3 might've convinced me, but at the end of the day there's more than enough on PS3 and Natal really isn't working on me.
The Lillster Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 It may get a bit busier, and I guess it all depends if people decide to make more threads or something. If its all compressed into one thread, then...it's not going to make a huge difference, heh. Yeah, it's quite a nice forum as a whole, I think. There were always be a few pricks here and there, but there's considerably less than other forums. Ever want a laugh? Look at the GameSpot forums. Bluddy awful. They make a new thread for eveeeerything. Why have one thread talking about something? Why not six?! Gah. Exactly bigger doesn't necesserely mean better. Neogaf is the worst, so many pricks who think there some kind of experts or professional analysts.
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