dwarf Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 Maybe he isnt into good games :/ Nah, having played the masterpiece, although short, it just screamed 'out of date'.
canand Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 Maybe he isnt into good games :/Nah, having played the masterpiece, although short, it just screamed 'out of date'. Its just becuse I dont them doesent mean I dont have good games.
Deathjam Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 ...ANYWAY what do you guys think will be the shape for Kid Icarus. 3d or 2d? Old school hardcore gameplay (game boy game was as pretty hardcore as they come) or something to facilitate the casuals?
Guest Maase Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 Canand, you're not making any sense xD Anyway, i still think the big surprise will be... MARIO CHESS!!!111, the fanboys are gonna get so glad xD
Owen Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 ...ANYWAY what do you guys think will be the shape for Kid Icarus. 3d or 2d? Old school hardcore gameplay (game boy game was as pretty hardcore as they come) or something to facilitate the casuals? 3D, set in Ancient Greece (did i get that right this time?). You'll probably fly around different Greek Locations or something...
Guest Maase Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 Hum... Kid Icarus, Sandbox in Ancient Greek Areas and some Heaven Areas... Many side quests by villagers and angels, big quests, a giant map with lot of diferent things to do... and great bosses, that's all i ask
Tellyn Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 I'm actually expecting a 2D Kid Icarus on either the DS or WiiWare. Nintendo don't know how well Kid Icarus would perform, so rather than make a potentially risky epic 3D update, I think they'll do a beautiful looking 2D update on the DS or WiiWare, sticking to Pit's roots.
Guest Maase Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 Oh, camon... Tellyn... They risked Mario in 3D (Super Mario 64), they risked Zelda in 3D (Zelda: Ocarina of time)... God... THEY RISKED METROID PRIME IN 3D AND IN FP (Metroid Prime)... why the hell wouldn't they risk Kid Icarus in 3D with so much feedback :\
Tellyn Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 Because the feedback comes from the smaller internet community who demand a new version of Kid Icarus, not the majority of the Wii audience. Kid Icarus was last seen over 15 years ago, that's a longer gap than Metroid. If they were to bring him back in 3D, then the game flopped, we wouldn't see any future games in the series since Nintendo would brand it a failure. Now, if they were to ease the audience into Kid Icarus with a risk-free 2D title and get it a bigger fan-following, a 3D title in the future would fare a lot better. I don't know, maybe I'm speaking crap but that's the way I see it.
Deathjam Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 Because the feedback comes from the smaller internet community who demand a new version of Kid Icarus, not the majority of the Wii audience. Kid Icarus was last seen over 15 years ago, that's a longer gap than Metroid. If they were to bring him back in 3D, then the game flopped, we wouldn't see any future games in the series since Nintendo would brand it a failure. Now, if they were to ease the audience into Kid Icarus with a risk-free 2D title and get it a bigger fan-following, a 3D title in the future would fare a lot better. I don't know, maybe I'm speaking crap but that's the way I see it. Hate to say it as I would prefer the "epic 3d update" but what you said makes perfect marketing sense. Like looking into a text book :P
BeerMonkey Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 wii fit 2 nintendos more casual appoach this time round hasnt got my anticaption up (even thou ninty has produced some quality games like SMG, SSBB)
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 shigeru miyamoto once said against Bungy that he easily could create a Halo kind of game. (that has been almost a year ago) so may be something about that?
Tellyn Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 shigeru miyamoto once said against Bungy that he easily could create a Halo kind of game. (that has been almost a year ago) so may be something about that? His statement was "I could make Halo. I just don't want to."
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 His statement was "I could make Halo. I just don't want to." it was indeed but it made a big fuss all over the world so may be he got tempted to still do it (some were i hope he will)
darkjak Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 Oh, camon... Tellyn... They risked Mario in 3D (Super Mario 64), they risked Zelda in 3D (Zelda: Ocarina of time)... God... THEY RISKED METROID PRIME IN 3D AND IN FP (Metroid Prime)... why the hell wouldn't they risk Kid Icarus in 3D with so much feedback :\ Because Mario was a bestseller for the SNES, so it was logical to take the step to 3D for the following generation. Especially in those days when games didn't cost as much to develop. Dev costs have skyrocketed the last years. Kid Icarus hasn't had a game for 15 years, and that's probably because the original two games didn't sell well enough. Taking a franchise noones touched for 15 years (that's 3 generations without KI, even if you don't count the Wii), and then just decide to make an epic AAA game seems risky, albeit not impossible. You however do have a valid point considering the way it turned out with Metroid. The thing is that Metroid Prime was quite controversial within Nintendo itself. Miyamoto basically told Retro to scrap the controlls at one time, when they actually were "real" FPS controlls. Plus that there only was one generation without Metroid of course. Why is everyone so much into kid icarus. Has it been confirmed or something? I myself believe in some franchise that's been on both previous generation consoles, like Starfox, F-zero, 1080.
Deathjam Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 Because Mario was a bestseller for the SNES, so it was logical to take the step to 3D for the following generation. Especially in those days when games didn't cost as much to develop. Dev costs have skyrocketed the last years.Kid Icarus hasn't had a game for 15 years, and that's probably because the original two games didn't sell well enough. Taking a franchise noones touched for 15 years (that's 3 generations without KI, even if you don't count the Wii), and then just decide to make an epic AAA game seems risky, albeit not impossible. You however do have a valid point considering the way it turned out with Metroid. The thing is that Metroid Prime was quite controversial within Nintendo itself. Miyamoto basically told Retro to scrap the controlls at one time, when they actually were "real" FPS controlls. Plus that there only was one generation without Metroid of course. Why is everyone so much into kid icarus. Has it been confirmed or something? I myself believe in some franchise that's been on both previous generation consoles, like Starfox, F-zero, 1080. Probably because of Pit's spontaneous addition to smash bros brawl. If consumers like him in that game, they may want to know more of him, and what better way to do that than produce a game that allows them to play as their new fave character. It's a subtle but perfect way ressurect the franchise. Plus the gameboy game (only one i played) was awesome and deserves a follow up.
Guest Maase Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 What? I tought it was already confirmed, if its only by that, then i don't believe it... You will be very disappointed xD
Deathjam Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 Wait a minute. Is there a mario party game out on the Wii yet? If there isn't then i fear that there will be one soon, possibly announced at E3 as "something for the casuals"
ShadowV7 Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 There is, Mario Party 8. There'll still show a Mario Party 9
Deathjam Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 There is, Mario Party 8. There'll still show a Mario Party 9 Curses. Well we have been warned.
triforcemario Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Probably because of Pit's spontaneous addition to smash bros brawl. If consumers like him in that game, they may want to know more of him, and what better way to do that than produce a game that allows them to play as their new fave character. It's a subtle but perfect way ressurect the franchise. Plus the gameboy game (only one i played) was awesome and deserves a follow up. Of course, I really enjoyed that new Ice Climbers game when they suddenly appeared in SSBM, and the new series of Game & Watch games as well.
Owen Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 There is, Mario Party 8. There'll still show a Mario Party 9 I honestly believe they won't do anymore Mario Party's after one more online orientated one...Which would be quite cool!
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Kid Icarus...Whatever...whatEVER! Just show me Pikmin 3 pls. k thx bye.
Owen Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Kid Icarus...Whatever...whatEVER! Just show me Pikmin 3 pls. k thx bye. Pikmin 3 is the dead cert for E3, it's odds are like 2/1 to be shown. (No betting on E3 obviously, just a example).
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