Tellyn Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Yes, I love my Wii. I think it's 'that Nintendo charm' (sounds like an American sitcom) again, I love the games, software, controls, everything. I'd love it even more if third parties started to give a damn. Well d-pads are common design - pcs, xbox, gc, ps have similar shaped pads. Where as this new controller design was pretty much a novelty/gimmick. Mind, I didn't like the design before it even came out. I don't like FPS. Guess who pinoeered the D-Pad? Nintendo know what they're doing.
ThePigMarcher Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 I would have thought the fact that the novelty of the Wii-mote has worn off is only a positive as it would mean that using it has become second nature. Just a thought
Guest dynastygal Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Doesn't matter if they designed the d-pad or not, point is the wii-mote is poorly designed imo. Once you've swung it once or twice, it gets boring. And well, playing with a remote is no fun at all, tbh. D-pad offers lots of buttons close together so easy to do lots of combos and stuff.
Phube Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 I would have thought the fact that the novelty of the Wii-mote has worn off is only a positive as it would mean that using it has become second nature. Just a thought This is my whole point... I tried to use my GC controller a few months ago.. It just felt wrong.. Moving a cursor to chose things from a menu, sooo last gen!! Doesn't matter if they designed the d-pad or not, point is the wii-mote is poorly designed imo. Once you've swung it once or twice, it gets boring. And well, playing with a remote is no fun at all, tbh. D-pad offers lots of buttons close together so easy to do lots of combos and stuff. The D-pad is the cross on the standard controller (the + bit)!!! The Wii-mote does exactly what it is supposed to, therefore it is well designed!!!
Guest dynastygal Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 When I say d-pad I think of the ps2 controller and stuff...seems I've got my terms mixed up oh well. And it may do what it's supposed to but it is poorly designed. Don't know about you, but I've played games using a remote control and it's uncomfortable as is the wiimote. You're forced to move your thumb up and down a large amount of space (in comparison to the size of a thumb). Where as with something like your generic controller design there is no stretching your thumb up wards (as in the skin between your thumb and the finger next to it isn't being stretched as much as it would on the wiimote). You also have to have your arm pretty much mid air which can be a strain if you're playing for a long time.
khilafah Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 I am more excited about my DS rather than my Wii.
Kurtle Squad Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 dynastygal - Your arguments are amazingly flawed. The analogue stick was once "exciting" and a new way to play, the same as the Wiimote was; ALL novelties wear off because then they become the norm. Playing with a Wii Remote is no fun at all?!....It's the same as any other controller, with less buttons (which is kinda what I don't like) and a lil added wiggle instead of a right stick (which is a lot better). THEN it has the possibilities to be used in games such as Wii Sports, or wanking minigames in Mario Party 8.
Hellfire Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 dynastygal - Your arguments are amazingly flawed. Of cours3! gurlz can't play gamez! lollerz nub! But, yeah they are :P
Kurtle Squad Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 You're forced to move your thumb up and down a large amount of space (in comparison to the size of a thumb). Where as with something like your generic controller design there is no stretching your thumb up wards (as in the skin between your thumb and the finger next to it isn't being stretched as much as it would on the wiimote). I've played TV games too; the Wiimote has far less distance (i.e. it's normal distance) between things. You also have to have your arm pretty much mid air which can be a strain if you're playing for a long time.No...you don't, and no, it wouldn'tGuys wouldn't be too happy with that stamina.
Guest dynastygal Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 My arguments aren't flawed as I have played a wii myself and even google images of the hand on the controller prove you have to stretch upwards. The adverts prove you have to flail your arm about in some games as well as actual gaming experience. And as I said before, ps2 controller shape and type wasn't a 'novelty' when I started gaming. But it was certainly better to play with. I find the wiimote to be annoying to play with - come on, it's got a piece of wire hanging between it and the analog stick - wth? The generic controller design allows you to play with your arms resting in your lap, with your hands close together and easy access to all buttons with little effort. You also don't have to be continuously trying to aim with the controller - even just trying to select an option on the screen was a pain in the ass cus sometimes the cursor wasn't showing on screen for whatever reason. Plus, ultimately, the wii mote is dangerous. Less so due to the new straps, but there is still the danger of it slipping out of the hand/strap breaking and flying across the room. Generic controller doesn't possess that danger.
Hellfire Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Plus, ultimately, the wii mote is dangerous.
Kurtle Squad Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 My arguments aren't flawed as I have played a wii myself and even google images of the hand on the controller prove you have to stretch upwards. The adverts prove you have to flail your arm about in some games as well as actual gaming experience. Yeah, in wanking minigames; the adverts are an exaggeration in most case, with many games just to show the Wii as different, you can't use adverts as proof for ANYTHING, they're generally a sack full of lies aimed at morons. And as I said before, ps2 controller shape and type wasn't a 'novelty' when I started gaming. But it was certainly better to play with. I find it rather gross that you refer to is as a "PS2 controller shape" A PS2 controller is a SNEStroller with added growths. I find the wiimote to be annoying to play with - come on, it's got a piece of wire hanging between it and the analog stick - wth? So? The generic controller design allows you to play with your arms resting in your lap, with your hands close together and easy access to all buttons with little effort. So does the Wii, though ur wrists rest. You also don't have to be continuously trying to aim with the controller - even just trying to select an option on the screen was a pain in the ass cus sometimes the cursor wasn't showing on screen for whatever reason. Move the smegging bar. Plus, ultimately, the wii mote is dangerous. Less so due to the new straps, but there is still the danger of it slipping out of the hand/strap breaking and flying across the room. Generic controller doesn't possess that danger.So you're a slimey, weak handed person ey!? Maybe strength is the biggest gain from not eating just rabbit food.
jammy2211 Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 My arguments aren't flawed as I have played a wii myself and even google images of the hand on the controller prove you have to stretch upwards. The adverts prove you have to flail your arm about in some games as well as actual gaming experience. And as I said before, ps2 controller shape and type wasn't a 'novelty' when I started gaming. But it was certainly better to play with. I find the wiimote to be annoying to play with - come on, it's got a piece of wire hanging between it and the analog stick - wth? The generic controller design allows you to play with your arms resting in your lap, with your hands close together and easy access to all buttons with little effort. You also don't have to be continuously trying to aim with the controller - even just trying to select an option on the screen was a pain in the ass cus sometimes the cursor wasn't showing on screen for whatever reason. Plus, ultimately, the wii mote is dangerous. Less so due to the new straps, but there is still the danger of it slipping out of the hand/strap breaking and flying across the room. Generic controller doesn't possess that danger. Google images? Tv adverts? yeah, these are certainly going to convince me, the Wii owner who has played a range of games with absolutely no problem from the Wii Remote whatsoever. I find it extremely comfortable, and have no problem with fatigue or anything. Before you go praising the Dualshock3 or whatever it's called, why don't you try playing Lair with it's SIXAXIS controls and find out what bad motion controls really are? :P You must be the first person I've come accross who thinks the Wii Remote is harder to use then a normal controller or something. Sounds like you start gaming during the PS2 days anyway, which means you've not really felt how controllers have evolved over time.
Guest dynastygal Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 So you're a slimey, weak handed person ey!? Maybe strength is the biggest gain from not eating just rabbit food. Not even going to bother with a person who clearly has no clue about other diets. It is more likely I have a far more varied diet than the majority of meat-eaters. So you can shut the fuck up. And besides, there have been vegan gold medal winners in all sorts of sports, including strongest person, so shove that up your rotten meat filled intestine. So maybe get informed before spouting your mouth off. And I have played the wii enough to know it's got a poorly designed controller. And my first console was a megadrive @ whoever. @Hellfire, there's even a site dedicated to photos and such of damage that's been done due to the wiimote being accidently hurled across the room.
thirtynine. Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Not even going to bother with a person who clearly has no clue about other diets. It is more likely I have a far more varied diet than the majority of meat-eaters. So you can shut the fuck up. And besides, there have been vegan gold medal winners in all sorts of sports, including strongest person, so shove that up your rotten meat filled intestine. So maybe get informed before spouting your mouth off. And I have played the wii enough to know it's got a poorly designed controller. @Hellfire, there's even a site dedicated to photos and such of damage that's been done due to the wiimote being accidently hurled across the room. Most of those photos are wither fake or from people playing the wii wrong. In no wii games go you have to slide your hand up and down the wii mote. none at all. Also, its the best designed controller on the market, followed by the 360 then the ps3. Also i think your flaming another member there...banz0r. Also eating meat is natural. And correct. Dont force your views on others, but that disscution is for another thread really.
Guest dynastygal Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 I never said anything about sliding the whole hand, I said stretching the thumb, big difference. And I've flamed nobody - flaming means insulting someone which I have not done. He goaded me with his pathetic meat-eating bullshit. So I responded to him telling him where to shove it - not an insult, just rude.
thirtynine. Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 I never said anything about sliding the whole hand, I said stretching the thumb, big difference. And I've flamed nobody - flaming means insulting someone which I have not done. He goaded me with his pathetic meat-eating bullshit. So I responded to him telling him wear to shove it - not insult, just rude. Meh you told him to shut the fuck up, which was not nessasery, i thought you would be teh bigger woman. Also, you dont even have to stretch your thumbs unless you have minature thumbs like that of a baby seal. Also stretching your thumb crap have you ever played a psp or a ps2? ever tryed to use the analouge sicks? you have to stretch dont you...
Cookyman Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Plus, ultimately, the wii mote is dangerous. Less so due to the new straps, but there is still the danger of it slipping out of the hand/strap breaking and flying across the room. Generic controller doesn't possess that danger. Now I was going to argue with your point about how dangerous the Wiimote is - until I saw this. . You've now convinced me of the potential deathtrap that is the Wii - I'm selling mine tomorrow I think you should spread the word about these dangers and wear a t-shirt like this:
DCK Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Well, at any rate your opinion doesn't seem very educated. You should really play the Wii more. It is very possible you don't like motion controls, but the arguments you're bringing up show that you don't quite understand what the motion controls are about.
Kurtle Squad Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Not even going to bother with a person who clearly has no clue about other diets. It is more likely I have a far more varied diet than the majority of meat-eaters. So you can shut the fuck up. And besides, there have been vegan gold medal winners in all sorts of sports, including strongest person, so shove that up your rotten meat filled intestine. Actually, I'm a pesco-vegetarian;) And I have played the wii enough to know it's got a poorly designed controller. Even though you've kinda proven that you're holding it wrong by saying you hold the controllers out and don't rest them in your lap or anything?! And that whoevers Bar it is seems to be in the wrong kinda place.
Guest dynastygal Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 And his comment about 'rabbit food' and strength was unnecessary - it was baiting/goading. Also, the wii-mote is a similar size to my house phone, probably a bit bigger. I have to stretch my thumb up and downwards to tap in certain buttons.
jammy2211 Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 You might think the Wiimote is dangerous but just think how dangerous the PS3 could be if you dropped it on someone.
Kurtle Squad Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Also eating meat is natural. Go eat a dog then. Meh you told him to shut the fuck up, which was not nessasery, i thought you would be teh bigger woman. She can say that if she wants; I'm no pussy.
thirtynine. Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Go eat a dog then. I would love too. Can we stop with the stretching crap. YOU HAVE TO STRETCH ON ALL CONTROLLERS.
jammy2211 Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Also - hilarious jokes aside - have you ever though the button layout is intention? I think the point is the D-pad and 1 / 2 buttons are supposed to be harder to reach, seeing as they're pretty much there for if you play it NES style. (er, horizontally) It's hardly the controllers fault if stupid developers map key inputs to the up on the d-pad or something. I think you need to establish the difference between what could be a design flaw and what was intentionally done on Nintendo's part.
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