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I have precedent, though :p I have heard rumblings of this week, but I also heard some for next week.

Well, that'd be telling

Todays gimmicks are tomorrow's standards. Wii is a prime example of that. It popularised motion control, and now that's everywhere

Here are my thoughts Mewtwo Smash DLC (Available after this presentation) Mario Kart 8 DLC #2 - First trailer New Splatoon details + Release Date - May 29th 2015 Splatoon amiibo Smash Wave 5 & Mario Wave 2 amiibo announcements Pokémon Rumble World announcement New Mario Maker details Yoshi's Wooly Island dated - June 2015 New Fire Emblem if news Puzzle & Dragons Mario Edition European Launch details Indie Sizzle Trailer One last thing... Note: the above is speculation and not indicative of insider knowledge

Do you know what cumulative means? -_- Now stop derailing this thread. I am no longer engaging your ridiculous backpedalling to try and find a hook so that you can be right.

I said overall in the Playstation life, not just last year. Good grief. Give it up.

What you said was irrelevant because revenue is irrelevant if it doesn't generate a craptonne of profit, which it did not do.

You came in here with stuff that was completely irrelevant to the topic at hand, then came accusing me of not bringing statistics to refute you, when the said statistics were on the very link you provided. You have derailed the thread due to your attempt to "correct" me. Also, to compare with Q4 2007, when Nintendo was doing well, net sales were at 1,316,434,000,000 Yen, which is approx. $11bn and profit of which was $3bn. So, clearly Nintendo knows business better as they can derive more profit statistically from the money they make. A ~28% profit compared to a 5% profit It's not Nintendo needing to learn from Sony, it's Nintendo having to get things to sell. Now, can we get back to the topic at hand, or do you wish to derail it further?

What's that? I can't hear you over all the backpedalling.

Simple mathematics. Check their financial reports http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/14q3_sony.pdf $4.3bn revenue, sure, but only $228m profit. Btw, way to turn my point into a pissing contest about who makes more, which wasn't the point I was trying to make. You always find one thing you can pick at and turn the whole argument into that.

So Nintendo need to learn how to make a 5% total profit with a wildly successful console which sells lots of games, has subscription charges etc. Yeah, good thing they haven't learned that.

I'm talking in the grand scheme of things, not just now. Yeesh. Also, that's revenue, not profit. I was talking profit. Around 5% of that revenue is profit.

Well I wasn't making a statement about third party relations, so me saying that wouldn't have been germane to the discussion

Money helps to build relations. Nowhere did I say that Nintendo didn't need to improve third party relationships. Please refrain from putting words in my mouth.

They got lucky because they tapped a then un-tapped market. In terms of "core" gamers, they don't appeal and they can't appeal without the third party heavyhitters that MS and Sony keep throwing money at for exclusive content.

It's not a defeatist attitude, it's the state of the industry. This day and age, MS and Sony are throwing money to moneyhat exclusives (including with indies), exclusive content and so forth and Nintendo can't do that. @Retro_Link is right in that they do need to adopt some industry standards (like the account stuff that is FINALLY coming) and use some of their legacy franchises more, but they cannot and should not compete with these massive corporations and their money because, frankly, they cannot. MS and Sony have lost so much money in their divisions, Sony has barely seen a profit overall (largely thanks to the mess of the PS3) and Microsoft hasn't at all. Nintendo cannot operate like that...they can't just take ridiculous losses to build up an audience with the hope of building money back later. It's not a possibility.

Just finished. Great little addition to the game. Some were evil in their location, others just obvious. I'm happy with it, though would have preferred more. Got a good couple of hours extra out of the game

Yeah, but he didn't come up with the entire idea of NFC, "toys-to-life", or oxygen so clearly he's a hack who doesn't know the industry. The problem with Wii and others is that they're wanting Nintendo to emulate/beat MS and Sony, which is not possible. They don't have the money for it, that's part of why they can't market as well. They can't just throw money at exclusives etc. like Sony and MS do. It's a sad fact but Nintendo will always be the "second" console or the niche console. Would it be nice for Nintendo to have a console that's at the top of the industry again? Absolutely. Is it likely? No. Their competitors are huge corporations with money to throw around like crazy. They can spend millions on just getting an exclusive, or just exclusive DLC. Nintendo cannot do that.

All they need to add is a search for it, then it'd be perfect. Though a search by player is doable through Miiverse and stages playable straight from there, which is pretty cool

There's no direct way to search based on title or direct for the person outside Miiverse but once you have a post by them, you can follow them, check their other ones etc. It's not perfect, but it's a decent enough system, I especially like being able to start directly from Miiverse.

The Mario VS Donkey Kong sharing system gives me hope for this

If you follow me on Miiverse, check my stage out...people are finding it tricky For those not in the know, sharing is done rather nicely. There are various options in game to search via Popular, Friends/Followed Players and Latest (as well as Nintendo developed ones). You can also select players profiles and see their other stages. That's not all, though. When you're playing the game and go into the Miiverse community, there's a small button on any post that's a stage (stages are shared in Miiverse community) which loads the stage up for you in an instant. If this is how they do it in Mario Maker, I'll be very happy.

Glad to see so many are enjoying it

Nintendo of Europe did, while shifting their headquarters to another city, so keeping the staff would have meant a lot of relocation etc.. It wasn't the overall company downsizing to save money. You're removing context and just using figures to push your erroneous narrative. You sir, are Fox News.

Again, just because they're figures with NFC doesn't make it the same idea as Skylanders. Considering they were approached for Skylanders exclusivity, they know it exists. You're trying to make problems where they don't exist. Stop it.